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NIGHT GAME 21/04/2015
Just went out and successful with a number-close. Again, I might get another flake - I know that I made a few mistakes during the interaction and this girl was from another city - but any kind of close is good at this stage in my game. As in, at least I'm getting SOME KIND of result to measure my progress (let's see: 45 approaches roughly speaking and 3 number closes as of tonight). Anyways to start off my night I walked around town as per usual, checking what clubs and pubs had any kind of activity. Approached 4 or 5 girls, got into a few hairy situations, I'm not gonna lie.
I did my first set including a guy. I just went straight up and asked the girl if she was going out with the guy, she said yes but it was obviously a lie because her friend was encouraging her to say "yes". So I 'believed' her and politely ejected. In the future I'll probably persist a bit harder in those kinds of situations, for instance it only occurred to me a moment later that I could have turned around to the friend and said,
"Are you going out with him too?"
If she said
"Yes,"
I could have been like,
"Wow, what a player!"
Or if she said
"No,"
I would have moved on with the line that I planned to open with.
But it is not until I have been in these situations that I know how to deal with them.
Outside one of the night clubs this drunk guy was bothering a bouncer. I simply asked the bouncer how much to get in then thanked him and walked off considering whether to go there later, after that the drunk guy started following ME and trying to make conversation.
Tbh he didn't look like he bring anything much of value as a wing and I would probably do better without him, but I asked his name then, addressing him I told him I was out to get a few ladies and if he would like to be of any assistance. He agreed initially but then started getting weird and tried to grab my arm saying,
"Look mate I'm worried about you."
I remember I just rotated my wrist out being used to guys trying to grab me like this when I'm sparring and lightly touching HIS forearm said, looking at him directly, still smiling,
"Oh are you mate, well that's good to know."
And just walked off. I'm glad he didn't follow me because I probably wouldn't have let him wing me after that. And yeah I know what the risks are on nights out like these but I've actually got a ton of experience going out solo. Not bragging or anything, just saying I know my limits. And this was a guy who was drunk off his face telling me that he was walking around trying to avoid fights with bouncers because they didn't want him in their club anymore, so really I should have been concerned for HIM. But I wasn't because I didn't give a fuck about this lowlife.
I was also walking through a narrow passageway and some black guys started cornering me like they were trying to be my buddies or something. Maybe they were but I wasn't taking any chances with these guys I just high fived one of them at a distance but KEPT my distance walking round them and they were calling me all paranoid and shit saying they were just trying to be my buddies but I really just didn't want to know.
Eventually all these hairy situations out of the way, and a few botched attempts at compliment openers to various attractive women on the high street, I found a club and a friendly couple that were willing to wing me. I didn't ask them initially if they wanted to wing me I just asked them what the scene was like inside the club. They said that they hadn't been in but from what they'd heard it was lively. They suggested we go in together I agreed even though they were more extraverted than me personally and bought them drinks as a friendly gesture.
I told them I was on the pull when they asked why I was clubbing solo and they cheekily suggested to be my wings which I agreed to and then we danced for a bit. I told the guy I was going 'indirect' when he suggested I hit on a few girls but moved in on the dance floor when he suggested a second time. I got flaked on when I did that (which is why I prefer to generally just move at my own pace, I don't really appreciate people making these suggestions) but I later approached the same set at the bar and had better results. I talked first to the girl in a black dress (HB IN BLACK)
ME working hard to get the girls attention as she is turned inwards talking to her friend: Hey I love the black, you know black is a purposeful colour
HER: It's easy
ME panicking slightly because I think she means that it's an easy line to use...which it is: You know the whole look really gives you a business attire
HER: Oh yeah, it does but I mean it's easy to wear as well - you don't have to think to hard about what you're going to put on.
PHEW
ME: So what do you do?
yeah I know, it's the whole "what's your business" route, boring but somewhat important I feel.
HER: Oh, I'm a care support worker.
ME: Oh really you know I did a few workshops in old folks homes working with dementia when I did my degree.
HER: What?
ME: I said I did a few workshops in old folks homes.
HER: Oh, that's nice.
ME trying a different route, seeing if I can bring emotions into the discussion: I bet you must feel passionate about working there.
HER she doesn't seem to understand: Yeah I mean I've got to work like 60 hours
ME working with what I've got: Oh right, well it must feel good to get out once in a while and let your hair down
I resist the temptation to touch her hair at this point but hopefully just talking and looking at her hair would have invoked something sexual
Anyways she get's a drink and I excuse myself to go talk to my new found friends for a bit. I go over and they explain that they are about to leave but they hope I enjoy myself. I shake their hands and then head back over to the bar for a glass of water. At this point I just want something to do without having to be in the centre of the room dancing and without talking to the two girls because I know that they will need a little bit of space.
Once I've finished my drink a song comes on that I like and I go back over to the girls trying to engage them a little non-verbally dancing and singing. I try to engage the other girl (HB IN WHITE DRESS) in the set that I haven't spoken to yet - I ask a few questions tell her I like her tattoo - but she is hard to get a response from. Eventually she says something like,
"Oh sorry, my names XYZ and my social skills aren't terribly brilliant"
or something. I get the impression that she's implying MY social skills aren't terribly brilliant so I just do my best to deflect what she's said without saying anything that could cause offense (just in case I've understood her wrong),
"Oh well that's ok my social skills aren't terribly brilliant we can still talk a little"
HB IN BLACK DRESS seems impressed that I came out with this but fuck it I can't tell, I mean I'm not a mind reader. I sense HB IN WHITE DRESS is going to say something negative so I just keep singing to one of my favourite tunes and eventually she shuts up. It's possible that I could have totally misread this situation but in my mind I played it safe - I mean, I was just dancing and singing a bit not intentionally interrupting her.
In any case, she goes to the toilet and I make an awkward joke to HB IN BLACK DRESS I initially when to speak to,
"Oh what, has your friend abandoned you with the creepy guy at the bar"
And she replies,
"Haha yeah...kinda"
AWKWARD!
She might not have heard the 'creepy guy at the bar' part of the sentence. I hope not.
In any case, she says something like,
"In any case she's a dead end for you, because she's got a boyfriend"
ME: Oh right...what about you, have you got a boyfriend?
HER wiggling her hand a little bit: Not exactly?
ME: Not exactly? I mean I'm not sure whether to believe you ... *this is the line I'm going to use from now on whenever a girl says she has a boyfriend it's the only way to defuse a potential shit test.*
HER: *shaking her hand raising her eyebrow as if to say "maybe, maybe not"*
ME: *raising an eyebrow, shaking my head side to side in non-verbal comical fashion, keeping eye-contact*
Anyways we chew the fat for a bit, the whole time I'm using Richard De La Ruina micro-escalation tips. For instance, when I lean in to speak into her ear, I tilt my face slightly speaking into her ear. This way, I'm keeping eye contact.
...AND IT FUCKING WORKS!
When we're speaking to each other, she's doing the same and there's times that our lips are almost touching. And I'm not even consciously trying to make this happen. I've practice the De La Ruina micro-escalation tips so much I just do it without really thinking about it now.
But then when I realise what is happening, I feel I just want to kiss her there and then, so I just say
"I kinda want to kiss you right now"
Worst thing is, I hesitate a bit. I mean I leaned back away from her first and THEN said it.
She laughs and pushes me off, so it didn't work: I came in too strong. At that moment her friend comes back from the bathroom and drags her away, so in a way, I actually made the right choice. I mean sure, I could have carried on with the micro-escalation trick but the problem is at that point I would have been FORCING IT to happen. And as it happened my window of opportunity was very narrow anyway since HB IN WHITE DRESS was just returning from the bathroom.
They go over to dance for a bit and I'm still sipping my water. I go to a different part of the bar and I notice that there's a SERIOUS shortage of hot women in this club. When I finish my water I just go over and work my way in to the same set I was just talking to, first make eye contact with HB IN WHITE DRESS who is trying to stare me down and then I put my hand on HB IN BLACK DRESS's arm. Leaning in I tell her,
"Listen I've really enjoyed speaking with you tonight, you seem like an interesting kind of girl, I was just wondering if I could get your number"
She says "yes" but she seems hesitant, or I perceive her as hesitant so I make the mistake of asking her,
"Are you sure?"
And then she kind of gives me this look and she's just like,
"Yeah, of course"
So I let her type in her number then a few hours later I send the usual text I send
"Vip number here store with care"
I forgot to add any emoticons, e.g. triple Xs to signify that it's just a joke.
Anyways, right now I just checked my phone and she's texted back already
"Ha what?"
So I'm texting back again
"Guy from XYZ club - black shirt. I'm just kidding with you. How's your night? Xx"
I was tempted to write,
"Sexy guy from XYZ club, etc."
But refrained.
Anyways time for some self-analysis:
CONS:
- Avoid risky situations with other guys better. I was letting those black guys in the passage way get way too close for comfort. It's possible they WERE just being friendly, but I can't be taking these risks. Also that drunk guy from outside the club, I should never have let him walk with me. Even if I went into a club with him, all he would have conveyed was low DHV, even lower DHV than me simply flying solo.
- Be more socially aware. HB IN WHITE DRESS might not have been trying to shit test me at all, it's quite possible I came across as paranoid and damn right insulting.
- Get some better dance moves. I think I probably looked nervey as shit on the dance floor.
- Stop rationalising my mistakes. Reading over everything I wrote, it just sounds like I'm constantly trying to rationalise and provide excuses for every awkward interaction I have. That's something that needs to stop.
PROS:
- I defused some awkward situations successfully.
- I'm glad I took the initiative to buy those guys drinks since they were being friendly enough to give me some of their time (I think!)
- I ended the night with a number and if I play my cards right I can even use this success to contact the girl later tonight and possibly meet up again before she goes back to her city. POSSIBLY.
- In all honesty I don't feel any more awkward about night game than I do about day game anymore. I'm not sure if that's good or bad!
Great that you continued to push through and got a number. At the moment, don't worry too much about flakes. You WILL get flakes. There will be tons of girls who will be happy with you at the club and not give a fuck an hour later. It's the nature of the game, and as you get better with making a connection after you escalate you can work on decreasing the flakes. For now, focus on getting to the stage of reliably getting numbers.
One big suggestion:
When doing night game, ESCALATION is the most important thing to do.
Women don't come to talk to guys - they come to dance and have fun.
Stop having conversations. You know this already.
Start teasing. Making fun, and HAVING fun. Enjoy yourself. Throw your hand around her waist. Don't be afraid to get close and touch. Stick your fucking tongue out. Stop focusing on conversation and be willing to get physical. You're the fucking king. You don't need her permission to have fun, to toy with her.
Go dance with her, hold her hand, PULL HER IN CLOSE. The fact that you can't dance is irrelevant.