OBJECTIVES

At the top of each page I'm going to list my objectives from now on. These include "things-to-work-on" that I've already listed in my own self-analysis and suggestions from users like Ocean, Chocolate and Mich. I think purple is a good colour for this. So from the three pages so far, we have:

LOGISTICS/BODY LANGUAGE

- Confident, open body language, good eye contact - but not too salesman like!

- Be peripherally aware of objects, people and things happening around you as you approach

- Try to maintain a conversation without walking alongside the girl

- Guys tend to be more open to you joining their social circle on nights out as long as they are not feeling protective towards any girls in their social circle (courtesy of ChocolatePUA)

- You stand out less (and there are also more girls) in crowded clubs (some more useful insight from Chocolate)

- Don't appear too nervous or jittery in your body language ( thanks to MichDutch for this gem)

- Wingmen help night game a lot but don't let them be a substitute for your own inner confidence (pretty much the consensus on this thread)

VERBAL GAME

- Don't be too formal - "excuse me miss", "hello madame" - it puts the girl on a pedestal (thanks to ChocolatePUA and OceanX for these suggestions)

- Work on yourself - your interests, your life, your relationships - and your conversations with women will be more interesting and more dynamic

- Try and make conversation before showing interest (this is actually some good advice from Mich).

*N.B. verbal game is what I want to focus on for a while because I feel that this is most lagging, although I guess that's also a common complaint amongst newbie PUAs:

"ummm what do I say...?"



INNER GAME
- Roll with the punches - keep a strong frame of mind throughout compliance tests and DON'T give up/walk away too easily! When they are giving off a negative emotional vibe, see if you can turn it around. (something Mich has correctly identified needs working on. I think this comes into the overall category of "be more aggressive". This video here pretty much captures what I'm talking about, in fact: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3AOuvG ... e=youtu.be)

- Learn to deal with cockblocks (related to the above).

- Don't overanalyse things - is the first thing that comes to mind good to use? If so use it, if not "hi how are you" will suffice. But the first thing that comes to mind is most likely to work.

- Work on yourself - your interests, your life, your relationships - and it will show in your overall demeanor

- Stay direct but not blunt

- Be creative

- You can be direct non-verbally about your sexual intentions without explicitly stating what you want verbally

- Think on your toes

- There are times when you need to be a little more aggressive and persist

- Don't hesitate when you approach because when a woman gives you a signal of interest, there is a very narrow window of opportunity to act.

- Have a humorous/charming demeanor without overdoing it (ChocolatePUA/OceanX)

- Keep a positive frame of mind -> women are mirrors to your emotions and the vibe you give off, so any negative mentality you have will be directed right back at you. (OceanX - I like the "women are MIRRORS" analogy")

- Have the right self-image: become the person that you see in your mind and want to become (OceanX)

- Ask yourself "what are the ideal characteristics in a girl" and go for the girl who gives off the right vibe: laid-back, liberal, open-minded and adventurous.

- Entitlement: you have to truly believe that you are good enough to get what you want (without believing that the world owes it to you) (OceanX)

- Self-awareness and brutal honesty are the only things that allow you to see your flaws (OceanX)

- Try to have a good time even if you are not being successful with women (OceanX)

#Listening to Skrillex - First of the Year.

I think Skrillex get's a lot of bad press.

S'up players?

Daygame was much smoother today, I didn't use Mich's conversation tip but it will come as I get better at rapport building. Today I focussed (successfully) on aggression/persistence and worked my way through a few compliance tests. I also made 5 approaches (highest score) and didn't walk around so much before I made an approach. Some of these approaches were the most zen I've ever done (E.T. -> Power of Now, biatch!). No numbers today but I can smell that success and it's not far away.

DAY GAME 13/04/2015

Decided to take a change from my bad boy leather jacket and popped on my nice boy cardigan and scarf before I hit the town to brighten up the day for a few girls.

#APPROACH 1: The Pick-Up Line

This was the first time I've used a pick-up line and I've gotta be honest it's not really my style. Plus the girl had an East European accent, maybe Russian, so I don't think she spoke much English. HB 7.5, tall - 5'10", very dark hair, slightly eerie vibe: she had some kind of naval green jacket.

ME: Woah, is there an earthquake or are you just rocking my world?
HER: ...Sorry?
ME: Is there an earthquake or did you just rock my world?
HER: Sorry...I have to go now

No worries, no more pick-up lines for today.

# APPROACH 2: Zen armaggedon

5'7" blonde girl, headphones, cheery attitude, I get the feeling she won't be a total bitch

First I make a slight wave to get her attention since she has headphones. I have a slight smile but nothing too cheesy.

ME: Wanna grab a coffee?
HER (laughing nervously, can't believe a guy just said that): ...grab a coffee!?
ME (walking back slightly as she is still moving): We can go right now, there's a costa down the road.
HER: ...right now!?
I maintain her gaze to emphasise that this isn't a joke.
ME: Sure, why not?
HER: I've got to meet a friend now.
ME: Ok, well do you want to get my number, that way we can text/meet up some other time.
HER (still laughing nervous, but hesitating like she is considering whether or not she should): ...No, I'm alright thanks

# APPROACH 3: My first two-set

First time I've done a day game two-set in this journal, I think. One thing I learned is that women tend to be more confident with their friends. So if you want to set their mind at ease, this is the way to do it. But it also takes more guts to approach the group.

blonde, curly hair, 7/10, mild acne and slight tash but only really noticeable up close

ME: You just caught my eye, and I was wondering if you might want to meet up sometime?
HER (sniggering with her friend): Oh no thank you I'm with my friend right now.
ME: That's ok she can come too
memory goes blank about what happens next
ME: If you like I can get your number, text you up so we can meet some other time.
HER (thinking of a witty remark): ...This is my date for tonight
(she's signalling towards her friend)
ME (walking off): Oooohh, that's your date? Well see you then.
(and she and her friend are sniggering like "OMG I can't believe this guy fell for that one")

Yeah to be honest, I can't really say I liked this girl's attitude much she seemed to be a little up her own arsehole.

# APPROACH 4

This girl was in a green jacket, roughly 5'7", and this approach was indoors I think. I blagged up my line a bit because I asked her if she wanted to grab a coffee when I meant to say ice cream, but if you think about it, it doesn't really matter (*face palm*)

ME (stopping in front to get her attention): Wanna grab a coffee we can go xyz?
HER: ...What?...
ME (trying to recover line): ...Ice cream?...
ME (restating line, at this point she smirks because she knows I fucked up): Wanna grab an ice cream we can go xyz?

I can't remember the rest of the (short) dialogue but it ends with me slowly edging back as she's walking past me, trying to get her number and her politely refusing.

#APPROACH 5

ME: Hey you just caught my eye wanna grab a smoothie at xyz?
HER: What?
ME: Wanna grab a gruit [fruit!] smoothie at xyz?
HER: Ok, you're bold.

[part of me just wants to tell her just how long it's taken and just how many warped psychological games I've played to build up the demeanor I've got right now)

ME (starting to get distracted by physical imperfections, shallow cunt that I am): ...Am I?
HER: Yes.
ME: So you wanna go grab a smoothie?
HER: Now?
ME (pausing because distracted by a spot on her chin, I'm starting to wonder if I actually want to grab a fruit smoothie with her. Again, I'm a shallow cunt):...Yeah.
HER (I think she is intuiting what's going on in my head - god damn that razor sharp female intuition!): I'm sorry I'm actually going through a break-up right now.
ME (tongue-in-cheek): Ok no problem, take my number then you can text after the break-up.
HER (laughing): No, but thank you!




SELF-ANALYSIS

Ok so I liked approach # 2 because

(a) persistence - I didn't give up at the first hurdle ("I've got to meet a friend now)
(b) awareness - I realised that she might be nervous, too nervous to go for a coffee "right now" so I gave her an alternative, that we text/meet up later

In a similar vein I persisted with approach #3. I just wish I hadn't given up at the final compliance test when she said "this is my date for tonight" it was obviously a lie and I could have caught her out, e.g.

"well, I would believe you if the first thing you'd said was, this is my girlfriend, not this is my friend"

or simply just,

"...why do I get the feeling that's a lie?"

You'll notice I'm not saying "excuse me", "hey" or anything - that's because I've been watching a few pick-up vids online and noticed that a lot of the most successful and direct attempts just dive straight into the line. If you think about it this makes sense because even when you say,

"hey"

It's like you're asking the girl for permission just to talk to her and that comes across as weak. Sometimes, I might see a girl 30 metres away and start projecting my voice there and then simply because that is the moment in which I've seen her. As E.T. would say,

"there is only one moment, and that moment is now"

Of course, being human, there are times when I hesitate and it's ok. That's not the end of the world, you've just got to persist a little more when that happens.

Finally, on the 5th approach when she said,

"you're bold"

I should have been like

"Thank you"

Because that's how confident people take compliments, they don't reject them. Still I'll know for next time.

...And, I think I should have been less shallow because that last girl was still pretty.

But still it wasn't me that did the rejecting

I've gotta be honest though, some times there's that little voice in my head that says, "Why do all these girls say no, are they out of their goddamn fuckin' minds?" I mean, it's like they prefer singledom and lonely nights at home to shacking up with hot guys but, whatever I'm not gonna judge. Each to their own.

I'm tempted to start tape recording my approaches because it's waaay to easy to sit back and be like

"oh yeah, and then I said this to her, I'm the fucking boss"

Plus I don't have to think so hard what I said. The only draw back is the recorder doesn't pick up on things like timing, context, logistics, body language and other forms of non-verbal location. It does pick up on the pregnant pause though which is good.

It's a consideration.

DAY GAME PT 2, 13/04/2015

There's all these groups of scary looking gangsters in my neighbourhood I'm having to walk past every fucking time I go out. The scary part is there's that little fucker inside me that likes the trouble. Hope I don't get the shit knocked out of me before I get laid. Anyways I just made another four approaches, because...fuck it 9 approaches in a week ain't enough and I'm not gonna get sex being a pussy.

#APPROACH 6:two set dark haired women laughing but walking briskly, maybe a little too old for me, HB 7.5/10
ME: Hey! I just saw you back there had to say hi.
HER (laughing awkwardly): Oh, hi.
ME: Wanna go grab a coffee?
HER: No, we've got to catch a train.
ME: Ok, give me your number we can meet up some other time.
HER: No, we're actually in a rush
ME: I'll write it down real fast
HER: No, gotta go!
ME: Ok, bye.
HER: Bye.

#APPROACH 7: two set, blonde HB 8/10, 5'7"
ME: Hey! I just saw you back there, had to say hi.
HER: Sarcastic laugh.
ME: Sarcastic laugh right back.

#APPROACH 8: Blonde woman with suitcase, HB 9/10, 5'11"
ME (crossing over the street, catching her by surprise): Hey! How's it going?
HER: That's none of your business!
ME: ...Ok, sooo can I get your number?...
HER: ...Actually I'm getting married this year...I have a fiance
ME: ...Ok...Ok, well good luck to you
(I'm walking away and then she asks me something)
HER: Is this like your job or something
(I don't like the fact this is the way I am coming across)
ME: ...Noo...(turns around and points)...now that would be a good job.

#APPROACH 9: Eastern european, black jacket, headphones, HB 9/10
ME: Excuse me...I think you're adorable can I get your number?
HER (in good humour): ...Noo!

ANALYSIS

Verbal game needs serious work, judging by this I've gotta be more creative than just,

"hey how's it going"

Non-verbal game is good though and I'm feeling less edgy/nervous.

I'm just fucked off that I'm not getting any results right now and nobody can turn around and say "well, it's your fault you've just gotta get out there and talk to more women" because it's not true. So it must be something to do with me: my personality, my looks, the vibe I generate, that puts women off me. I keep a strong frame most of the time and just shrug these thoughts off but these thoughts still sink in sometimes: there's a part of me that still feels negative and resentful of the fact I keep getting rejected. I'm just like,

"aaaaaaaaahhhh, what's going wrong?"

Whatever, life sucks, deal with it, I know. Endrant/

Something I've learned is the importance of building comfort AND attraction when making approaches.

Point blank, you could be the smoothest motherfucker but asking a woman in your first sentence to grab a coffee with you will get you a no 90% of the time. If you're not good at things, then that probably goes up to 99%.

Why should she go for coffee? Why should she give you her number?

You're a stranger, and she hasn't even had the time to evaluate you to figure whether she's interested in you or not. You're setting yourself too high a reach to go straight from hi > give me your number/let's go grab coffee. Women are

Build a bit of comfort/attraction first. Tease. Kino, and see how she responds. Give it 2-3 minutes.

Then TELL HER that she's coming to get coffee

"I'm thirsty/tired, so let's go grab some coffee/ice cream"

Then TURN in the direction of where you're going, or if you feel comfortable having established kino physically hold her hand/pull/lead her to where you want to go.

You've got CONTEXT, you're not making it sound like if she's GIFTING you with her time (non-neediness) and you've spent 2-3 minutes so she feels safe and comfortable with you.

That's my 2 cents anyway.

Thanks man, it's because this...


...is where I'm having problems in my game. The truth is, it's easier for me to just ask her straight out because I'm having a hard time with verbal & non-verbal escalation.

Anyways, some more online game (this is the only way I feel I can improve my verbal game right now):

ONLINE GAME

#GIRL 1

ME: what up mario?
HER: Luigi? Did you shave your stache?
ME: Actually I'm the Wright Brother: Wilbur, not Orville.

Your princess is in MY castle now so why don't you just dudda dudda dudda back down your pipe.
HER: You and your brother can get back in your biplane and make out with each other.
ME: we're gonna beat you so fast it's like we're holding the b button
HER: You'll get pummeled, you'll wish you never stumbled out your little wind tunnel
I'll take the shrooms, you can have the princess... Truce?
ME: I think we should have a bit of both

#GIRL 3
ME: sorry what, your a cute nurse? do you have an outfit
HER: Haha yes cute is in the job description and I wear scrubs
ME: I thought girls don't like being called cute
HER: I dont lol i was just letting you slide
ME: that's cool I mean I'd let me slide too, it's not every day a guy like me messages cute girls like you
HER: Hahaha

#GIRL 4
ME: 6th pic down...marilyn monroe much?
HER: I'll take that as a compliment
ME: well yeah sure I mean a compliment from me is pretty valuable. any day girl.
HER: Thanks

#GIRL 2
ME: that place looks like the Tate modern art convention
HER: Really?:)
I'm Tanya by the way
ME: hello tanya I'm aydin pleasure to meet you
HER: nice to meet you too
ME: and nice piano:)
HER: Thanks it's a Kawai ES7, nice ass

let's see if she replies, test the whole "you can't compliment a girl on her looks" theory

I like Skillex!

One important thing - you'll want to wear ONE peacocky item. Something that stands out and hopefully doesn't look TOO cheesy. I love wearing RED because it really causes people to look twice and stands out. However, I've taken to wearing a fedora (i have both black and white) that blends well with what I'm wearing

What's your problem with verbal and non-verbal escalation?

Compliments are dog shit. They automatically put you in the chasing frame, let the girl know that her beauty has power over you, and if she knows you're sold based on her looks she's gonna be far less attracted to you. The only times they actually do anything are when the girl is already attracted to you. Concentrate on learning attraction game and how to emotionally stimulate a girl by teasing and flirting for now.

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I don't think anything I wear is that peacocky but that's not to say I don't dress with style - nice shirts, jackets and clothes that actually FIT (which is more than I can say for most people). I wouldn't say I peacock although I do have a pretty vivid bright jacket with all these colourful indian designs that I might use more often in the future. Ok, that item IS peacocky. But no on the whole I don't peacock, I just try to stand out in ways that are a little more subtle.
Well the non-verbal part comes if I can find an appropriate way to make touch (e.g. touch her arm when she's talking) or just from eye contact. Actually I think I'm quite good with all that, but sustaining a conversation is hard especially when I don't know what this girls interests are, how she sees herself, how she lives her life. This is more so the case with the lines I'm using and the fact it's a cold approach. If I could think on my toes a bit quicker I could think of something in the nearby vicinity or use something about her dress or what she is doing that would be sufficient to start a conversation.
I actually agree, I'm mainly using compliments in my online game as a kind of experiment to see how she reacts. Sometimes I will take the girl by surprise and 'drop the bomb' half way through the convo by relating it to something she just said in a kind of surreal way. I think this gives me a little more power/control when I do it this way. Thanks for the heads up

# Listening to DJ Antoine vs Timati feat. Kalenna - Welcome to St. Tropez

You should read the first part of Magic Bullets.
In there it says what openers work best in what setting. It also states that if your non-verbal signs are not that strong, you should practice body language with lower risk openers. Direct works fine in clubs, because people are in a flirty mood. On day game I wouldn't suggest using them, unless your confidence and body language are amazing.

You claim that verbal game is one of your problems. It looks like inner game (nerves especially) and non-verbal communication actually need more work. Get a hold on your mind, don't panic and the verbal game will come along throughout the confidence and clarity.

Don't give up, you missed a few shots while practicing. That is all.

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Opinion openers aren't a bad idea, I might try using them, thanks for the book reference. Maybe I'll try using them with and without my peacock jacket, see what differences in results I get. When you say go indirect, you mean like actually look away a bit more? I don't know that I'm all that nervey, I mean I get butterflies and my heart beats a little faster but I can't really see that ever not being the case when you go talk to strangers. You think verbal game will come when I've got the non-verbal down? Ok well I'll see but I'm gonna work a little on it as well. It seems to me the more rounded you are intellectually and in terms of interests/career, the easier it is to have a conversation. In short, BE interesting and you will SOUND interesting.

Nah, when I say indirect it means that you dont convey a lot of interest immediatly.
It is true that the whole PUA thing is not only improving your lovelife, it is also very empowering and fun to do. And well, you're getting butterflies while talking. Thats why you want to keep it simple, to focus on your inner game. It helps you look better while talking, but also keeps your mind clear which makes for better analysis.

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--- MiDu

Well today I tried it that way and I've gotta say I definitely managed to elicit some better reactions.
Got it.

I'm seriously considering investing in a voice recorder just so I can analyse my interactions better and more objectively. Then when I come to write field reports I'll be writing down what I actually said rather than what I think I said.

DAY GAME 15/04/2015

Tbh I've done so many approaches today I don't know if I can remember all the conversations but I'll give it a try. I started off with a few of the same lame old lines that I've used and got mostly the same generic responses. I did this three times and to be honest I won't even bother going into any detail with them because ... what's the point? They don't work.

Then I remembered I'd been watching a few of Alex's youtube vids on his channel, SucceedAtDating. I had written down a few opinion openers that he suggested and I came up with a pretty imaginative way to use them. I have to admit I had to try this method a few times just to get it right but eventually I managed to get a conversation flowing which is land mark for this thread. I didn't get a number or anything (she had a boyfriend) but it's just a matter of time.

The opener I used was from this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdYPtUM ... L&index=14

Basically you tell the girl that your meeting a friend soon, he's a bodybuilder with a fake tan and his girlfriend wants you to tell him that the fake tan doesn't look good. How do you go about telling him this?

To be honest, I don't really think it's a brilliant opinion opener and it seems obvious that it's a lie but it was the best one I had to use for today. I'll see if I can find any better opinion openers from that MagicBullets book for next time.

Anyway the way I used it was, instead of going up direct and trying to use the opener, I would go up to the girl and asked her for directions to XYZ. Initially the idea was that XYZ would require complicated directions and I'd just say something like,

"sorry to be really cheeky, but would you mind taking me there"

Then, ideally, if she would agree I would tell her that I'm meeting this bodybuilder friend on the way. Use this to start some convo and then when I arrived at the destination, just say,

"Actually, I've got some time before he comes, it's been really nice speaking to you, you seem like a cool girl. Would you like to go get some coffee/could I get your number?"

But the way things happened there were lots of complications I wasn't expecting. For instance, the girl might not know where XYZ was and I (knowing exactly where the location was) would say something like,

"oh, are you sure? I've heard it's on TUVW street and you've got to go through PQRS to get there."

Two girls I said that too STILL didn't know where it was (if you know my city centre like AT ALL, you will know where at least SOME of these places are!) so I said,

"Oh ok...would you mind if I could get your advice real quick?"
HER: Ok, yeah sure
ME: Well, the friend I'm supposed to be meeting, he's a bodybuilder, right. And he's got one of these fake tans... well I personally don't have any opinion about fake tans but ... well ... this is pretty awkward but his girlfriend rang me last night, she doesn't like this fake tan and I'M supposed to tell HIM that his fake tan doesn't work. I mean, this is pretty awkward, right? Have you got any suggestions?
HER (obviously trying to restrain laughter): No, you're right. That is pretty awkward. I don't.
ME (looking around me, feeling awkward and ready to leave): Ah, right...well...OK. Um...see ya.

Ok, so that one didn't work too well, but I felt relatively relaxed at least to start with. Maybe at the end I should have been more like,

"Well, thanks anyway. Oh my names XYZ what's yours by the way...?"

Seen if I could salvage the situation in anyway. But I don't think that would have worked.

There were a few other girls who knew EXACTLY where to go, but they were all in a rush - had beauty appointments, they were meeting their friends, they had to catch a train, etc. I tried to eliminate the "I'm meeting my friend excuse" by approaching girls already with their friend, but they still had other reasons why they were in a rush. So I would say,

"Ok, have you got just a minute, I want to get your advice on something real quick"

But I remember two girls "didn't have time" even for that. Although the girl's friend that was in the set I was approach shot me a flirtatious side glance as she was walking off. I didn't miss it but she also caught me off guard so I didn't respond to it either.

After that, I figured out a slightly different approach. Most people don't want to take like 15 minutes out of their day just to walk a stranger who might be trying to hit on you to a location they aren't even walking to. So I went a bit closer to the location and I tried asking a few girls who looked like they might be walking past it.

I asked one of them,

"Hey, do you know where XYZ is?"
HER (she is foreign, her english is very good but I can see she is not a native speaker): "Oh yeah sure, it's...well, um, you have to walk past..."
ME: Sorry, do you happen to be walking in that direction?
HER: Yes! You can walk with me if you like!
GAME'S ON
ME (walking up stairs): Thanks for helping me, I'm actually meeting a friend there.
HER: Oh, no that's no problem
this is where I fuck up a little bit, because I try to force the bodybuilder routine into the conversation and actually, it's not necessary, I've got loads of other things I can talk about. I'm a little socially awkward when it comes to small talk, but not THAT much!
ME: Well any way the guy I'm meeting is a body builder.
HER: Shaking her head
ME: Do you know what that is? A bodybuilder?
HER: Yes, yes, I know - a bot-say bilda.
ME: No, no a BODYbuilder, like you know *pretends to tense muscles* - GRRR, BODYBUILDER.
HER: AH. Yes, yes, I see.
ME: Well I don't know if you like this in a guy, I mean...
HER: No, no, I don't like this.
ME (slightly thrown by the shift of direction in conversation): Haha, well not all women do I guess.
HER (rolling her eyes): Not me
ME (trying to shift towards the fake tan part of the routine): Well, this guy is totally obsessed, I mean spending all day at the gym, 6 meals a day, protein shakes, fake tan stroking the skin on my arm, hoping she will understand...
(I'm actually wearing a short sleeved t-shirt today given the nice weather and all, and I'm not in bad shape either)
HER: Do you do this...working out?
ME: Well...yeah, I mean I go to the gym, but...
HER: You are normal, right?
ME: Yeah, yeah [LIE]...so what do you do, work...study?
HER: I am working at XYZ children's hospital
ME: Your working at XYZ city hospital?
HER: No, no. I am working at XYZ children's hospital.
ME: Ooh, your working at XYZ central hosptital.
HER: Nooooo, I work at XYZ children's (she pronounces it seyeldran's) hospital...children's hospital (she corrects her own pronunciation).
ME: I see.
we cross road
HER: So what do you do?
ME: I work part-time bar shift.
HER: Where?
ME: At XYZ.
HER: XYZ?
ME: Yeah, XYZ. It's actually a pretty cool music scene down there, jazz and stuff [LIE]
HER: Do you play an instrument?
ME: Yeah, I actually play jazz piano.
HER: Oooh very nice.
Buff dude on bicycle comes past
HER (sniggering): Is that one of your friends?
ME: Hahaha. No, no he's not!
HER: You sure?
ME (about to make a big mistake): Yeah...actually the guy I'm supposed to be meeting he's got a fake tan (stroking my arm again) you know what this is?
HER: Yes.
ME: Well, anyway the guy's girlfriend phoned me...
HER: His girlfriend or you're girlfriend?
ME: His...I'm single, unfortunately[D'OH]...well anyway she phoned me up last night
ok, this is good - DHV, demonstrating that women come to me for help/advice...I think
HER (her eyes light up a little): Yes.
ME: And she wants ME to tell this guy that he's got a bad tan, I mean how do you go about that?
HER: I'm not sure.=[/b]

We make some more small talk about other stuff. There's a few awkward pauses which I'm ashamed to admit I fill in. Then we get to the target destination at which point, I take the opportunity to prove I can be bold and dynamic as well as indirect/chatty. I turn around, look at her directly, and say,

"Well it was nice to meet you",

Offering to shake her hand. I know this is a little unusual to shake a woman's hand but I do it often because

(a) it's a form of kino
(b) it's a socially acceptable way to break the ice with someone, or (as in this situation) to wrap up a conversation.

I hold her hand with both hands (smooth, gentle touch) and she looks a little taken back as I look at her directly (but I've been making eye contact like this a lot, so she is not too surprised) and instead of saying,

"Actually, I've got some time before my friend comes, it's been really nice speaking to you, you seem like a cool girl. Would you like to go get some coffee/could I get your number?"

I say,

"So I've really enjoyed our conversation and you seem like a nice girl... can I ask, do you have a boyfriend?"

I'm still not sure if that was the smart move. In any case she says yes. I figure I've got nothing to lose at this point so I shamelessly attempt a scripted boyfriend destroyer:

ME: Well, I can always be your plan B.
HER: Plan-what?
ME: If you ever break-up just send me a text.
HER (laughing): Ooh, I don't know if we will be breaking up any time if ever.
ME: Ok...well. It was nice to meet you.

ANALYSIS:

So, I still didn't get any of the results I wanted (numbers/dates/lays). And you (the reader) might think the bodybuilder/fake tan routine is a bit dodgy (and I might agree!). You probably also have suggestions that I haven't even considered yet. But still I've stumbled across a fairly risk-free and indirect method of sustaining a conversation. Depending how far away your location is, you can be talking for like 5 minutes.

One of the main problems, of course is that THEY are leading YOU. So that's not good if you're looking to take the alpha route. I'll see what creative solution I can muster up but for the time being, I'll just accept that this routine is the best I've got and see what changes I can make to perfect it, make sure I get good conversation in and use a few different opinion openers, maybe. I also want to see if I can be a bit smoother about demonstrating my interesting than simply 'dropping the bomb' at the end of the convo, get a bit more kino (although kino is harder and less appropriate during day game than night game).

OBJECTIVES FOR NEXT TIME:
- wear something a little more peacocky (I have a certain jacket in mind),
- use some more imaginitive opinion openers,
- focus a little more on escalation - Richard de la Ruina does a good youtube vidon this that I'm gonna analyse for next time
- mix in some bold/direct openers with the indirect openers. Get a gauge on the different responses.
- think of a few different locations so that I can walk around different spots in town. I find my approaches to be more successful when I'm walking around different places because people are less likely to notice what I'm doing and also, I'm more likely to find more attractive/approachable women that way.