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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 2:58 am 
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I only ever told my two close friends. They like the idea. But usually I keep this community to myself

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:28 am 
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I don't frame it as "I'm a pua" because that is not at all how I see myself. I see myself and portray myself to others as a single guy who is experiencing life as a single guy should if and until he settles down: And that means dating girls. What red-blooded single man wouldn't want to date girls, or shouldn't be dating girls. I would submit: None. The ones who are home jacking it every Friday night can keep having fun doing that.


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I don't consider myself a pick up artist, because i've been approaching women before I even knew what a pick up artist was, but I'm pretty open about my life. They know that when we go out as a unit I'm going to approach women and push them to do the same. Although the majority don't even need the push.

Most guys go out to hit on girls I thought (or at least hope to bump into some), so if you're not hitting on women and not dancing.. why are you there? We can save a lot of money and make our own drinks at home if thats the case.

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I don't consider myself a pua because I don't think I'm THAT good. A pua for me is Richard La Ruina or Adam Lyons. I'm not like them.
I told my closest friends I know game and I'm currently teaching it to one of them, but the rest of the people see me as a guy who is successful with women. Some come to me and ask me how I do it, but I usually don't share the secret of the pua community. Being in a closed environment (university campus), the less people know game, the better for me!


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the less people know game, the better for me!
I would encourage you to change this way of thinking. Its a scarcity mentality. Your thoughts become words, words become actions, actions become habits, habits become characters, and characters become destiny.

You should want everyone to know so everyone can get laid. Its not going change your lays. You'll just elevate into having better game if need be. I don't give a care if the entire world learned pick up. I'd still go out there and be the best at it. Can't nothing stop me, and can't nothing make my life any harder or easier than myself. I own my destiny. Who cares what anyone knows..

Girls read my articles to try and be a couple steps ahead and I just laugh. Because when game is good enough, you can know about it and still can't stop it.

Ever play basketball and tell someone what you're going to do before you do it - and still get away with it?

Thats supreme confidence. I'll get mine regardless man. There is enough pussy for everyone.

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the less people know game, the better for me!
I would encourage you to change this way of thinking. Its a scarcity mentality. Your thoughts become words, words become actions, actions become habits, habits become characters, and characters become destiny.

You should want everyone to know so everyone can get laid. Its not going change your lays. You'll just elevate into having better game if need be. I don't give a care if the entire world learned pick up. I'd still go out there and be the best at it. Can't nothing stop me, and can't nothing make my life any harder or easier than myself. I own my destiny. Who cares what anyone knows..

Girls read my articles to try and be a couple steps ahead and I just laugh. Because when game is good enough, you can know about it and still can't stop it.

Ever play basketball and tell someone what you're going to do before you do it - and still get away with it?

Thats supreme confidence. I'll get mine regardless man. There is enough pussy for everyone.
Eddie, you probably have quite a lot more of experience than me with game. This makes you really confident and you basically don't give a shit about what people think about you. You probably also live in a big city or at least in a different reality I am in. Fair enough. In any case, at least for the moment, I prefer to be one of the few people where i am to know game. When I'll become even better than what I am I'll probably be like you.


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the less people know game, the better for me!
I would encourage you to change this way of thinking. Its a scarcity mentality. Your thoughts become words, words become actions, actions become habits, habits become characters, and characters become destiny.

You should want everyone to know so everyone can get laid. Its not going change your lays. You'll just elevate into having better game if need be. I don't give a care if the entire world learned pick up. I'd still go out there and be the best at it. Can't nothing stop me, and can't nothing make my life any harder or easier than myself. I own my destiny. Who cares what anyone knows..

Girls read my articles to try and be a couple steps ahead and I just laugh. Because when game is good enough, you can know about it and still can't stop it.

Ever play basketball and tell someone what you're going to do before you do it - and still get away with it?

Thats supreme confidence. I'll get mine regardless man. There is enough pussy for everyone.
Eddie, you probably have quite a lot more of experience than me with game. This makes you really confident and you basically don't give a shit about what people think about you. You probably also live in a big city or at least in a different reality I am in. Fair enough. In any case, at least for the moment, I prefer to be one of the few people where i am to know game. When I'll become even better than what I am I'll probably be like you.
I get you man.

All I'm saying is..becoming even better all starts with changing your thinking. I used to think like this as well, but the moment I changed my thinking, my game instantly got better.

I used to hope there weren't many guys at the party, etc..

Now I don't give two shits if the parties packed with guys. More friends to make.. I'm going to get mine no matter what. But I didn't start getting mine no matter what until I started thinking his way.

I'm at a cafe on this forums now and I remember the times when I started on this forum 5 years ago and I'd be turning and darkening my screen because I was almost embarrassed that someone would see my screen and see "Bang Women" Ads and " pick up artist on the screen. Same with sites like POF and Okcupid. Now I'm like so what? I'll even use it as an opener to any girls nearby. "So what you think about this guy? What should I tell him?" " You think this girl on POF is worth my time? Check her profile ".. I want people to come ask me questions.. I embrace my truth. I own all of my actions. Who am i hiding shit from? I have control over my life and I WILL make a way for myself. I'm honest, I treat people with love and respect, what would could they want? Me to base my life around their opinions too? Lol come on...

So I understand you bro. I'm just pushing you to be better.

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I get you man.

All I'm saying is..becoming even better all starts with changing your thinking. I used to think like this as well, but the moment I changed my thinking, my game instantly got better.

I used to hope there weren't many guys at the party, etc..

Now I don't give two shits if the parties packed with guys. More friends to make.. I'm going to get mine no matter what. But I didn't start getting mine no matter what until I started thinking his way.

I'm at a cafe on this forums now and I remember the times when I started on this forum 5 years ago and I'd be turning and darkening my screen because I was almost embarrassed that someone would see my screen and see "Bang Women" Ads and " pick up artist on the screen. Now I'm like so what? I want people to come ask me questions.. I embrace my truth. I own all of my actions. Who am i hiding shit from? I have control over my life and I WILL make a way for myself. I'm honest, I treat people with love and respect, what would could they want? Me to base my life around their opinions too? Lol come on...

So I understand you bro. I'm just pushing you to be better.
I see what you mean and respect it. I also really appreciate your consideration, but I have one question for you then: what made you change your way of thinking? I mean, all my big changes in my character had reasons and experiences behind them. What happened that changed you from what I am in what you are?


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I get you man.

All I'm saying is..becoming even better all starts with changing your thinking. I used to think like this as well, but the moment I changed my thinking, my game instantly got better.

I used to hope there weren't many guys at the party, etc..

Now I don't give two shits if the parties packed with guys. More friends to make.. I'm going to get mine no matter what. But I didn't start getting mine no matter what until I started thinking his way.

I'm at a cafe on this forums now and I remember the times when I started on this forum 5 years ago and I'd be turning and darkening my screen because I was almost embarrassed that someone would see my screen and see "Bang Women" Ads and " pick up artist on the screen. Now I'm like so what? I want people to come ask me questions.. I embrace my truth. I own all of my actions. Who am i hiding shit from? I have control over my life and I WILL make a way for myself. I'm honest, I treat people with love and respect, what would could they want? Me to base my life around their opinions too? Lol come on...

So I understand you bro. I'm just pushing you to be better.
I see what you mean and respect it. I also really appreciate your consideration, but I have one question for you then: what made you change your way of thinking? I mean, all my big changes in my character had reasons and experiences behind them. What happened that changed you from what I am in what you are?

I have these epiphanies man. And I also challenge discomfort because that shit bothers me. When I feel like " shrinking" because of outside circumstance I know something is wrong. And one day I just snapped.. I'm like "Fuck that".. Why should I shrink enterally because of other people. So if its darkening or hiding my screen so people can't see it.. Theres a weakness there. You begin feeling weak and so you darken your screen and or adjust yourself, but why? You're giving into weakness? I feel like that shit taxes my life literally. Its like smoking a cigarette to me. I'm here to grow. And grow only. I'm not letting another human get in the way of my growth. Fuck them. If i have to be an outcast so be it. But ironically enough, more and more people have gravitated to me the more I become this way.

My dad also instructed me as a kid to not give two shits what people thought. As a child he would scream at me when I would let the perception of others weaken me. It didn't work in the moment.. I still cared. But as I got older, all of his old lessons began to manifest.

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I Just had another thought that I figured I'd share with you and whoever else reads this post.

I say a lot of affirmations and I am a firm believer in all the energy we send out into the world returns to us. I'll take 3 months and repeat 10 minutes of affirmations upon waking up and before going to bed. Things like " I am the most attractive man on the face of the earth" " Women gravitate to me and I have that ability to make there lives full, wonderful and complete" etc. etc.

And now I'm starting to realize that some of the affirmations I send out into the universe return to me in the form of epiphanies that improve me as a person. I thought they came out of no where, and now I'm starting to realize that they return to me in the forms of these ideas and inspirational jolts that I use to motivate myself into improvement. Nothings really random; everything comes from somewhere and everything comes from something. So part of it is my upbringing and another part of it is the level of consistency that I apply to my psychological self improvements. You have to WANT it. Desire is the secret to success..The more you DESIRE it the more you will work toward getting it. And if you don't currently have the desire; do things like repeat affirmations like " I am completely motivated to approach and attract more women" and that affirmation may return to you 6 months later in the form of an idea, epiphany, or creative emotional jolt that can propel your success.

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Everyone I know, knows what I do and I fucking regret it.

At the time, i was just intrigued by it and wanted to tell the world. Now they think I'm some sad cunt.

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As others are saying, I don't view myself as a "pick-up artist". Those words actually make my cringe. I just have a passion for making women light up and experience awesome feelings. When they experience those awesome feelings because of me, in turn I feel awesome. It's a win/win situation.

I'm don't talk to girls to "pick-up", although sometimes that's my goal. I talk to girls for the experience and the way it makes me feel.

That being said, I don't think it's really a label I put on myself. I tell my friends I love girls and I love talking to girls and what not, but that's it.

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Everyone I know, knows what I do and I fucking regret it.

At the time, i was just intrigued by it and wanted to tell the world. Now they think I'm some sad cunt.

Elaborate.. What do you mean?

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I told them that I went on a bootcamp. I had no idea that this would be something that would be frowned upon.

So if I were to argue with them they would bring up the ' at least I didn't have to pay to be good with women'

Little do they know that it wasn't the bootcamp but it was me that took control of that part of my life and solved it. But i do get getting sniggly comments here and there. I don't talk to them about girls. They met my ex gf and liked her and think that i'm crazy for dumping her. If i was to go out with them on a night out they will be looking at me like 'Okay then, show me what you got then' type of look.

I know you're gonna say 'PEBBLE, why do you care what they think?' - the truth is, i'm not that bothered but i just mention it anymore. If i could turn back time, I wouldn't mention it. It got pretty awkward when the whole Julien Blanc pick up artist thing was mentioned on the radio and I am instantly put in the sleaze bag retard category as Julien now.

These are work friends by the way. So I don't really consider them as true friends. I like one or 2 of them but my best friends are my friends i met through pick up and i'm not ashamed about it.

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I told them that I went on a bootcamp. I had no idea that this would be something that would be frowned upon.

So if I were to argue with them they would bring up the ' at least I didn't have to pay to good with women'

Little do they know that it wasn't the bootcamp but it was me that took control of that part of my life and solved it. But i do get sniggly comments here and there. I don't talk to them about girls. they met my ex gf and liked her and thin that i'm crazy for dumping her. If i was to go out with them on a night out they will be looking at me like 'Okay then, show me what you got then' type of look.

I know you're gonna say 'PEBBLE, why do you care what they think?' - the truth is, i'm not that bothered but i just mention it anymore. If i could turn back time, I wouldn't mention it. It got pretty awkward when the whole Julien BlanC pick up artist thing was mentioned on the radio and I am instantly put in the sleaze bag retard category as Julien
I think you'll grow beyond that. I've always got my share of women so I can't full relate to your circumstance, but I can't imagine why they would care if you paid if you're now way more successful than them with women. Hell, if i paid for a man to teach me physics and became the greatest physicist on the planet that the rest of the physicist would follow suit and hire the same instructor. It would only make sense. Who can make fun of a man that paid for a class that transformed him into a man thats a lot more capable than they are.

Sounds like they're putting you down though and preventing you from growing into a space that will make them seek the guidance you have to offer.

I get that same " Lets see what you got" type of energy from clientele, but i'll fail all night at times, and I learned that they care more about my FEARLESSNESS than they can about actual pulls. Of course eventually you gotta see something, but people can recognize authenticity. They can FEEL IT, they know a man thats faking it from a man that is successful but just having a bad night by the way he reacts. It may not even be conscious, but they KNOW. Its instinctual.

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