Do any of the instructors read this forum? I need serious help, i've gamed for 3 SOLID years about 5 days a week.

I have over 800 girls number in my phone. 0 success to speak of.

I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get a girl/have sex (except breaking the law)

I'll lie or use the most decietful methods, and I'll also consider plastic surgery. I'm very desperate.

I didn't start out like this, when I first learned pickup I was very confident thinking I was Brad Pitt, and getting numbers was fun.

The things that have crushed me mentally are the amount of dates I have went on where the girls simply do not respond to texts after. Not the cold approach rejections. It's the After-the-date rejections that keep me up at night.

Here is audio is me on a date... and here is my picture.

OK I CANT POST LINKS HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO ASK FOR HELP?

You can't [post links?

Anyway, you already know where your sticking point is. Transitioning from date to them sitting in your house.

When you get them in your house you'll have to transition into sex.

While on the dates, are you intending to get them back to your place or just simply date and keep following up?

What's the typical date look like do you kino?

Here is a post where you can start ironing out some holes in your game. looking-for-a-starting-point-vt188734.html

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Most of the time im using the first date as a form of comfort building.

Otherwise I suggest we go watch a movie at my house.

here is how i look

i have some video and audio infields but i cant link them as i am a new user.

Some girls disqualify you for not making moves on the first date. Girls definetly disqualify you if you have them isolated in a sex location like in your place watching a movie without attempting something.

The reason they disqualify you is due to guys like me who fuck them on the first date. In comparison you don't stack up. Not being mean, just how it is. You're not in bad shape I guess. Your t shirt fits properly.

You get numbers - girls are attracted to you.
You get dates - girls are comfortable meeting you
You can't fuck - girls aren't being seduced by you.

There is a such thing as getting to comfortable and friendly with girls.

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fudge most of them disqualify me for trying to make the move on the first date.

I never said my sticking point was making a move.

Also I would be quite content with just having a female friend. "friendzoned" is fine with me.

I would be content with a cute girl to spend time with. Thats how real my struggle is.

well you aren't hideous...there has to be something else going on. Your first date should include attraction and comfort. Seduction should be fun...don't settle for the friendzone...that shit sucks.

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anything is better than them never responding to me again. even before i did anything overtly rude.

You made a comment saying 0 success.

Did you tell me that you make moves and get disqualified?

Here is the deal. You are not clear on what "0 success is". If you arn't sleeping with women then you have a problem seducing them. Period.

If you're talking about something else then be clear about it.

You seem to already know what your sticking point is.

Good luck.

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and demonstrate to all of us what’s really possible. I learn what those few
extraordinary individuals do that’s different from everybody else, and then emulate
them.

Making a move and the girl saying "i dont want to"

0 success means getting rejected on the approach

getting no follow up texts after getting the number

getting rejected on the kino at my place

0 success.

failure in all aspects

That seems pretty pessimistic...

I mean, if you failed at kino back at your place it means you DID approach and pull a girl back to your place.

Having a pessimistic attitude won't help your game much. Focus on the positive, and when things work note how it worked. When things don't, learn from it.

As for not closing once you've got them in your place... maybe something needs to be adjusted with how you do kino?

yes i've analyzed this to death. It's not about being pessimistic its about being realistic.

If I claim to be having a modicum of success then I will not make the drastic changes that need to be made.

You are vague at even providing details. You'll never get the help that you ask for if you don't give some real detail.

I get her back to my place. We sit down and have drinks. I get her to open up about x. I pull her close to me...etc.

Right now the only answer is that you're doing something wrong and it's your fault.

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I am unable to link videos or audio files.

I have tons and tons of infield.