Can't agree more....I remember my ex was seeing other guys behind my back...I broke up with her. I was emotional, and of course she would never admit it. Surprise, surprise, she gets into a new relationship the following week hahahaha. That relationship lasts for a year (we are in college at the time). They break up. I talk to her because I see her at a party, she just talked shit about how that guy was crying to get her back etc. I was like in my mind "wow, you cold hearted bitch".

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Sounds like a devious whore. Especially when you said she is worried about getting her heart broken. LOL. What about the guy she is with? She doesn't seem to give 2 shits.

^This, she is just a babe in the woods...scared and confused. I honestly think she is just auditioning you both, I guess you can just be the better man.

Small update for anyone interested.

I have been slow at replying lately and communication was breaking down a bit, got a call out of the
blue from her saying she wants to meet up later this week.

So this will be the third time we meet, I have never initiated.

Do you think she is interested or just playing games?

Should I handle the date any differently? Ask her whats going on?

Everyone had been hurt at least once...welcom to dating. The difference is, with this one, you can see it coming. So don't put yourself in that position and just be happy being a FWB. Just do it on your terms. Tell her you don't care about her BF situation and stop talking to her about it. She can justify her immortality to herself anyway she likes but she doesn't have to verbalize it to you.

Like Snoop said "you can't make a ho a housewife".

This girl is all about validation and excitment. She will always be selfish and self absorbed and she'll never actually care anything about you other than the "danger" you represent. Embrace that and play it for all its worth but do not get caught up in her emotional bullshit

So I'm going to meet her tomorrow and just go for the F-close.

Last time we met she had to resist as my kino was strong , anyone got any
other last tips for me ? Anything I should be doing or saying in particular?

I am going to completely avoid any boyfriend talk as others have mentioned.

I do now feel less attached and wouldn't mind a FWB situation. I know she likes me more than just a friend
but she definitely feels "guilty" after our dates, how can I f-close without making her feel guilty, can I get past that?

I love it when guys ignore 2 pages of advice.

Good luck, brother. You'll need it

Thanks...! sorry, I just thrive on your advice and knowledge.

I got this.

She's just invited me to hers rather than going out so I think it could be on.

This says it all right here man. She's keeping you "on the hook" so to speak in case things end up going south with her BF. And if things do go that way with her and her BF then the new side guy will get this exact same line when you get with her, which it seems to me you'll jump at the chance to be her BF. Seems to me everyone commenting on this has said the exact same thing and warned you. And you keep making excuses for her. Oneitis much?

Like ol' Chuck Finley said, good luck.

After last night I have no more issues with the situation at all.

I got this.

Thanks for all the replies.

The biggest surprise ever would be to hear you say 'she dumped her bf and now we're finally togheter'...
Anything else but that wont surprise me

I would like to see an update on the situation. I hope for his sake he bucked the odds and proved everyone wrong.

Well... we met a couple of days ago and when she brought up the bf situation I told her that I'd thought about it and I decided she should stay with the guy as it's the easy option and some girls just aren't risk takers.

That seemed to ruffle her feathers. Her attitude completely changed. I think it was a bit of a shock to her, all of a sudden I was not chasing any more.

Yesterday she called to tell me she had just broken up with him.

I guess its true that if you really want a girl you have to risk losing her.

So you two are togheter now?

This is the type of chick who loves drama.... and you're the fucking punch line.

She probably is bored in her relationship. And her boyfriend probably is lame. So she's gotta shake things up a bit...

You're giving off the right "vibe" towards girls but just proceed with caution on this one man. I've dealt with this type of chick plenty of times and the "lame" boyfriends can get pretty psycho... REALLY quick. Honestly, the headache isn't worth the pussy. Do what you want though