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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:35 pm 
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Whats the best you can become?
I will not start this with some descriptions or stories about me. Lets just say I am at the bottom of life, be it social or financial. I just got some huge source of motivation (a lot of people dear to me died very young due to heart attacks or got killed), I am curious how far a man can get, how powerful he could become, If he might start at the bottom, as a typically shy person, a smart individual (nerd). If you are over 23 and a virgin, what do you might expect? What type of women can you date or sleep with, how socially comfortable can you become... is there hope to learn how to dance if you are too stiff and uptight???
I am asking people for their experiences or experiences of someone you know... any stories or tips are appreciated.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2015 11:48 pm 
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I knew a man who was in his mid 20s and still a virgin. Basically had no friends his whole life. I'm not %100 clear on his backstory(he was not a close personal friend). He was living on welfare, had no job, no friends, no car, nothing(I don't think he was homeless).

I met him about three years after he decided to turn things around. He started off pretty modest. He started taking some classes at a local trade school. He got a job about a year later. Just had a few friends at this point. I think he dated one girl, but no sex. Then, not too long after the job, he got his first girlfriend. He showed me a picture, and she was cute. Nothing special, but a lot better than your hand ;)
When I met him, he was still poor as fuck(may still be), but he had a good number of friends, and his girl was pretty and smart. At that point, I think he'd only slept with a few women, but it was a huge turn around from a guy who was disabled and almost in a wheelchair.
The old picture of him, bore little resemblance to what he looked like then. Acne was gone. Skin tone cleared up. He must have dropped 30-40 lbs of fat and picked up 25lbs of muscle. Fashion was vastly improved. Ill fitting tshirt and sweatpants to fitted Diesel dress shirts, and True Religion jeans. Despite being three years older, he looked about six years younger than before.

23 is not even close to too old to turn everything around. 43 is getting close, but you have a good two decades to go ;)
Most people squander their college years anyway. You're not much behind the pack at all. And it doesn't take much to close the gap and pass the stragglers. As a matter of money and power... I wouldn't be planning on a billion dollar estate. But a good upper middle class income is easily doable. If you're poor now, you'd be surprised how much even a bottom six figure income can get you.

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Whats the best you can become?
I will not start this with some descriptions or stories about me. Lets just say I am at the bottom of life, be it social or financial. I just got some huge source of motivation (a lot of people dear to me died very young due to heart attacks or got killed), I am curious how far a man can get, how powerful he could become, If he might start at the bottom, as a typically shy person, a smart individual (nerd). If you are over 23 and a virgin, what do you might expect? What type of women can you date or sleep with, how socially comfortable can you become... is there hope to learn how to dance if you are too stiff and uptight???
I am asking people for their experiences or experiences of someone you know... any stories or tips are appreciated.

I am 23....didn't really start anything really until I was 19 (lost my virginity)...then it was spotty here and there. Both financial, school wise, career wise etc. I had up and downs over the years...This year has been the greatest improvement for me. So, you can start from nothing and eventually get everything you want. Just takes hard work.

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