I'm down that road again... what to do after she gives you the LJBF?

Stop being so nice and doing her favours

Sexual tension - (bedroom eye's)

Be more clear with your intentions

Touch her in a way that makes you a mate

Stop kissing her ass

= no friendzone

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Very good advice - listen to PEBBLE.

When he says "be more clear with your intentions" though... I would add that doesn't mean tell her you like her/love her/want to date her... SHOW her instead. Don't verbalize it.

the thing with being ljbf zoned is very simple you created too much comfort and now she has zero sexual thoughts about you or if she does its in a bad way, you need to create sexual attraction around her and one way is to create sexual tension. whether it be by creating sexual frustration or introduce sexual topics it shows you are a sexual individual not just one of her girlfriends with a dick

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Thank you, my friends.

I also know a freeze out is usefull in this kind of situation. Kinda like take away what she wants until she gives me what I want. I've been doing it because, quite honestly, it's easyer. She asked me to hang out, I flaked. Dramatically reduced texting and started giving short and cold responses. She says I'm sulking, I blame it on too much work, stress, lack of sleep.

Now, the thing is, she is starting to date some other guy. Knowing her like I do chances are high she will mess that up and come running to her "friend", like it happened several times before. Should I freeze now and risk pushing her away to the other guy, or suck it up, keep an open, yet thin, line of comunication (the ocasional coffee) and freeze when I am again her only option?

I admit, I have a bit of oneitis and I am working on it by reducing contact and dating other girls. But still, when is the best time to go cold on her?

Tell her how you feel.

She is gonna find someone's willy to suck if you continue to 'freezer her out'. So do something before it is too late. Freezing her is not that is needed right now. Some intentions need to be clear. Show your hand like it is a game of poker.

I am not optimistic for you, if she is interested in you, she will make it known some way. I think you have blown it already with her. Not the answer you were looking for I know. But realistic.

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Well, that is pretty much the point. I have shown my hand. She gave me something like "I don't look at you that way. You are my best friend, the most important person in my life and who I trust the most. That is worth more than any hook-up. Sorry, but I don't see us as a couple, I'm just not attracted to you that way. We don't have that kind of chemestry".

Hence, the freeze-out. If it is not on my terms, it sure as well will not be on hers. And I sure as hell won't be the beta orbiter who spends hours texting after that crap.

Ok, first accept she doesn't see you that way. Don't take it personally. Second, guys get friendzoned when they pretend to like a girls personality, spend time talking and all that stuff to one day whip their dick out. If you like a chick's personality, hang with her. If you want to fuck her, make a move early and fuck her. If you like her personality, hang with her dude. If not, then move on. An attractive female friend who you actually like spending time with is a great thing. She can introduce you to her friends, she can help you fix your style, she can be someone you hang out with to meet other women ie approach. Therefore, she can help you get more pussy than her own. Just don't hang out with someone as a friend if you don't consider them a real friend. If she's your friend, meaning she actually brings something to the friendship, keep her around. If she isn't interested in you, do you really want to fuck someone against their will? If that's the case, ruffee her (joking), but thats what you're doing by trying to force her to like you. You're playing checkers...play chess. Instead of looking for the quick fuck, look at the bigger picture and a potential asset.

You were rejected very clearly. You don't have much of a choice but continuing to be her friend or basically phasing her friendship out while you improve your attractiveness and overall value (and hopefully just find someone else while you are doing this).

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I would just stop cold turkey. If YOU really wanted to be her friend then that's cool. The way I have been able to stay out of the friend zone with any girl is I am comfortable with myself...I say whatever. I create tension naturally...be that sexual tension. It's just who I am. I am the man...she is the woman.

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