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guys, thanks for being patient. there's cool stuff happening, so just stay tuned!

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Hey Zip,
Given that valentines day is coming up in a few short days why don't you let the public know if you/women expect any difference in a normal date vs a date on the notorious V-day. I feel as if a lot of guys on here might possibly throw in the towel using the special day as a scapegoat to resort back to their AFC ways for the night setting a horrible precedent. I would like to know if you, speaking on behalf of most women, expect a little bit more of a date vibe on valentines day then a standard "day 2." And if so, what would that be...

Personally for my date on thursday, I was just thinking about bringing a single rose to give to my valentine but other then that I wasn't really thinking anything different.

And more importantly, when I come to New York in the middle of March where are you going to take me for my birthday? :D

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And more importantly, when I come to New York in the middle of March where are you going to take me for my birthday? :D
LOL, nice try, but she won't be around in the middle of March . . .


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hey hows it going...I was wondering if you could help me...see theres this girl and she continually pokes me on Facebook I don't know if you know what that means but if you don't I can elborate later but anyways she continually pokes me on facebook but then when I call her she never answers this leads me to believe that shes not interested but then when she pokes me on facebook every few days it makes me think she might be...am I reading to much into Facebook or do you think shes playing games and if she is whats do you think shes trying to do and what can I do in return??


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Hey Zip,
Given that valentines day is coming up in a few short days why don't you let the public know if you/women expect any difference in a normal date vs a date on the notorious V-day. I feel as if a lot of guys on here might possibly throw in the towel using the special day as a scapegoat to resort back to their AFC ways for the night setting a horrible precedent. I would like to know if you, speaking on behalf of most women, expect a little bit more of a date vibe on valentines day then a standard "day 2." And if so, what would that be...

Personally for my date on thursday, I was just thinking about bringing a single rose to give to my valentine but other then that I wasn't really thinking anything different.

And more importantly, when I come to New York in the middle of March where are you going to take me for my birthday? :D
Alright, here's the deal with V-Day.

It's just a card holiday. However, it's a fake holiday that women are obsessed with.

Here's a question for all you guys out there: If it's a Day 2 or a girl you're not hard-core dating, why the hell asking her out on THAT day? Can't you wait? You've just shot yourself in the foot, unless you congruently want to get a bit more romantic with her.

Here's the thing, you don't have to go crazy on V-Day, but if you've been seeing the girl for a while, you need to do SOMETHING on V-Day. Get creative. Don't spend major moolah on a gift, unless she deserves it. That's something you have to gauge for yourself.

Okay, let's say you've totally fucked yourself over... you've got a date with a girl you're not serious about on V-Day... just make it FUN. Don't even start leaning into the "romantic" because she'll start expecting things she shouldn't (and rightfully so, she's following YOUR cues, even though you don't know you're dropping them.)

If V-Day is an early date for you and your lady-friend... just remember that it sets the tone for the rest of your dates. If you ruin her V-Day by not doing ANYTHING when you take her out... she will resent you for ruining the entire year for her. You have to keep it light, keep it fun, keep it nice. I suggest grabbing a flower while you're walking around, literally picking it from something on the street or some other found object, imbue it with some fun feeling (you can use anchoring if you know how,) and that should be really appreciated by the chick.

If she scoffs at it... hell, she just saved you possible weeks of misery. Drop her immediately.

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hey hows it going...I was wondering if you could help me...see theres this girl and she continually pokes me on Facebook I don't know if you know what that means but if you don't I can elborate later but anyways she continually pokes me on facebook but then when I call her she never answers this leads me to believe that shes not interested but then when she pokes me on facebook every few days it makes me think she might be...am I reading to much into Facebook or do you think shes playing games and if she is whats do you think shes trying to do and what can I do in return??
What time is she poking you? If it's consistently on a weekend at 12am-4am... I'd say she's drunk and wants to send you an IOI. However, when you call... she regrets being that forward. I mean, that's just from personal experience...

If that's not the case, she's sending you a semi-approach invitation. That means she's not ready to talk to you on the phone yet, but she wants to let you know she's interested. Find another way, maybe an IM or send her a free gift on facebook that makes fun of her in a fun way. She'll reciprocate and build towards phone conversation when she's more comfortable.

However, I don't know your background with this chick. Maybe she's just fucking with you. What does your gut tell you?

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hi zip, first off i want to say that i think a large portion of the good advice in this forum comes from you, so thank you for that
Thank you for your kind words. I truly appreciate them.
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my question is relating to my (lack of) calibration; ie both offending girls with inappropriate jokes and waiting until shes practically on top of me before taking notice
Alright, this is great that you've realized the problem. What's getting in the way of fixing it? Is it a frame problem? Are you too focused on your affect on others? On your manipulation of social dynamics? Are these defense mechanisms? What's the cause of the problem... then you get to the solution.
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I met this girl last year (we had a class together first term but I didn't see her after that)
I've run into her a few times recently, each time with her boyfriend (who just stands there being oblivious)
she always starts a conversation and we'll chat for a few minutes, and i sense that she is/would be interested, but the boyfriend is an obstacle
how can I proceed?
Okay, have you ever befriended the boyfriend? This is 101 stuff. She's opening you because she's either testing the boyfriend or she's actually intrigued by what you'll do. Befriend the boyfriend, or just ignore him. If you have enough alpha skill to blow him out of the water and isolate his girlfriend away from him... that's the way to go. You feel like experimenting with this one, let me know. Otherwise, just get that girl isolated any way you can.

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Hey Zip,

Three questions:

1. What are the upsides to living in a house with a cool, cute, female roommate that is a platonic relationship by mutual agreement. See each other more as family.

2. What are the possible downsides and how can they be handled?

3. Is it cool to walk around in speedos when the roommate is home? :D
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zip dont worry take your time on answering me and natural boy :wink: well im not in a hurry but i dont know about him lol..

but in the mean time i have another quick question! Its about V-day!
What if you ac C/F and tell the girl where she is taking you for V-day instead of i asking her to go with me? 8)


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I don't think I told you this yet, but congrats on the new venture.

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zip dont worry take your time on answering me and natural boy :wink: well im not in a hurry but i dont know about him lol..

but in the mean time i have another quick question! Its about V-day!
What if you ac C/F and tell the girl where she is taking you for V-day instead of i asking her to go with me? 8)
YES! play with her. but only if you've calibrated correctly up to that point. or if you really know what you're doing. I'd love it if some bro came up to me with that.

And, yes, I'm getting to your other questions, and the questions I've missed here. Working Working Working!

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I don't think I told you this yet, but congrats on the new venture.
Thank you. And thanks for the Super Mario Link. You rock my socks, bud!

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Hey Zip,

Three questions:

1. What are the upsides to living in a house with a cool, cute, female roommate that is a platonic relationship by mutual agreement. See each other more as family.
Platonic means platonic. Now that that's understood, you can still playfully flirt around, she can bring over hot babe friends, she gives you ultimate social proof with other women... the benefits are endless.
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2. What are the possible downsides and how can they be handled?
Platonic relationship by mutual agreement... which means you had to agree not to hook up... which means you have thought about it and so has she. Disaster. You're always going to want to fuck her. Ladder theory. However, I'd say if you can keep little LuvShaman under control around her, the benefits outweigh the cons.
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3. Is it cool to walk around in speedos when the roommate is home? :D
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Zip, I just watched Mystery's video about Body language in the forums..

My question for you is..

When opening a set in a bar, what should come out of my mouth?

Something convient to the situation or Hi, Im Juice..

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Thanks for the feedback Zip! :D

Now check out this question.

Scenario:
Same great roomate as previously stated. She's looking for a long term relationship even marriage/wants to start a family with a quality guy.
I've given her advice and helped her hook up with guys. She follows my advice and hooks these guys hard, but then when she starts getting deeper into the dating/relationship she stops following my advice and the relationship fizzles out. I asked why she stops listening to my advice, but she said she doesn't know why she does that.

Question:
What do you think is going on?
What more can I do for her to help her improve?

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