i knew i was right about this lol.. so that would be 12pm Ca time right? good timing i can get some sleep hehe

CA time- 6 PM. Three hours difference from CA to NY.

Bud, half the time I have no idea what the hell you're talking about. Maybe it's an East Coast/West Coast thing

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Oh shit ... this is 3:00 AM here in Germany. I hope the workshop will be recorded.

Yep, it'll be recorded.

I needed a good female opinion on this, so I'm turning to you Zip.

I met this girl over the summer, when I just used my natural stuff, and got into pickup a little later down the line. Basically I've been going at for about 6 months...So to make a long story short: I will try to be as short as possible while providing context.

She liked me a lot in September, I ran perfect game on her without knowing what I was actually doing - Push comes to shove I was busy and had other things going on, then eventually started to doubt myself with her (It happens ever so often even to anyone). I never even went for a kiss and moved into LJBF land by October. I got out, but into a worse place with her thinking I was an asshole just trying to use her after being a little too cocky one night, when I was drunk and saying something along the lines of ,"You wish you could've kissed me." By the end of November, I was able to work back into LJBF land, again have never even tried kissing her...I freeze her out during the winter break from college.

We come back from winter break after me ignoring her and me moving on after my vacation of meeting plenty of girls (Yes, one-itis, but she is LTR material, HB10, smart, blonde, green eyes, great values & morals, etc.)...She is texting me saying she misses me the first two days of school, we go to a party together the second night of school. I was doing my thing with other girls because I didn't wanna concentrate all on her. But, she didn't even look at another guy all night. She was all over me again. I didn't bother to kiss to prevent any form of buyer's remorse whatsoever, because she had a bit to drink, and I wasn't at all.

I take her out bowling the next day after the party and after successfully re-gaming her, and finally got my k-close. She hasn't spoken to me since in the past 2 days despite my efforts to text her with some funny stuff, not be awkward, lose friendship, or contact....

I have no idea what it is? Could it possibly be that she doesn't wanna seem clingy, or is she scared to get close? I don't think it is a form of Buyer's remorse because I had 6 months of comfort with this girl. What do you think? Thanks in advance and sorry or the long post again.

Oh good. Cause it looks like her workshop's competing with a little something called the SUPER BOWL. NY Giants vs. NE Patriots. GO Pats!

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Yeah, she has alerted me of that point, lol.

I've been working on my inner game lately, but still making approaches. My FRAME is being rebuilt and getting stronger because now I've noticed HB7+ start to notice me more than usual and talk with me. I have to learn to control my STATE and make sure I rebuild a stronger FRAME!

I was talking to Medic; your student or former student. He said you were awesome in teaching the material. I wanted to come to your workshop tomorrow Feb 3 but I have to work. No big deal! I'll just see you on your thread or PM you.

While working on my inner game I've theorized and came up with new concepts about attraction and people in general. E.G. People don't neccessarily mean harm intentionally; some do, some don't. However, the world around us is a fun-learning SPAM to be in. There are lessons to learn from life everyday even through death.

We're here because 1) We have to learn how to behave ourselves and not become so Chaotic. Turn CHAOS into ORDER. 2) There are special missions why we're we are formed and exist. 3) There are good in people especially evil people; in fact there is no such thing as evil (it's a coined term). Evil only proclaims itself in terms of Catholicism. I'm not bashing any religion here and I know it doesn't have to do PU; but in a way it does because it solely works on who you are as a person and helps you to find the answer of many questions that haven't been answered.

People are people; some with good intentions some bad. It's all part of who we are and why we are human beings. We wouldn't exist otherwise if there wasn't something to get out of it, some lesson to learn.

I've been told that I was stupid, ugly, retarded in the past. As I read about social dynamics I finally understood that these people were just reaching out for attention-someone needed them to love themselves because they didn't respect themselves-or it could be my fault; however people are more in pausible denial than anything else. Daily people get walked on and talked about. However, is it necessarily okay for a man to shoot everyone at his work or rape a woman? No! Those are cruel intentions-yes, however something inside him is lacking love for himself and by others.

I would love to share and blab on but I have to go and do some cleaning. I want to say Zip-thanks! Peace!

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Gentlemen, I regret to inform you that my workshop will have to be changed to another day. I will update you asap, but it will be on a Sunday coming up soon.

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appricate the input. Here are a few pointers. She thinks to highly of herself in my opinion. Since she knows alot of guys that suck up to her, you know! Getting her into clubs, parties events blah bah.. AS far as making her change, i know you cant do that i dont intend to. This girl is a good challenge for me and i want to learn from this. I have delt with something like this with another girl before but little less aggressive. I # closed her and now we are close but it took a long time and im sure the same will apply with this one. NOT taking her shit and talk like nothing happened everytime. But here is one thing i ddont get that you said. You mentioned CALLING HER OUT ON IT! Can you provide more input on this.An example would help me out alot more =)..

maybe a regular convo. between me and her and she answers short, i compliment her and she takes it very well but then i have to call her out on it( this is where you tell me how) lol

I'd like to take a look at it, where can I find it? Mind you, I spent quite some time trying to figure out the search feature on the site with no success.

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whats the deal with texting women? should i do it right away? put a lot of time inbetween, mix it up, or just dont respond at all sometimes?

i have been trying to figure this out. i have found the 80/20 principle and have been applying it to life. it says that 20% of X accomplishes most of Y while the other 80% is just a waste of time/energy/space/etc. for example, 20% of your time is spent productive while 80% you could cut out and your life would still be going just as fine. i cut out videogames, cut down on internet, and cut down on work hours in half and now i have crap loads of time.

i was thinking about this principle relative to texts. 80% are responses like "ok cool" or "c ya then" or "ya". if i can cut those out i was thinking it would be better. do women get annoyed when someone they like doesnt respond often if at all sometimes. i know girls who do that to me and it drives me crazy. i start to get paranoid as to why the long responses or no replies. when i finally do get a response (sometimes after multiple texts), it makes it so much sweeter. is the same true to women?

thanks... you are kinda awesome

(you get that compliment for free. any more will cost you)

What I mean by calling her out on it is exactly what I said. If she only responds when you compliment her, and you catch it, tell her your observation. Tell her, in a nice way, that she only seems to respond well when you give her a compliment... making the compliments that you give her empty and meaningless. Is that what she wants? To make people give her meaningless compliments just so she will respond? Tell her you believe she's worth more than an empty life filled with empty compliments, and you have the capability to give it to her.

She should shape up. If not, she's not worth your time.

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Aha, it's in my Member Journal, exclusive to the PMZ community only. You'll have to join the PMZ to get access.

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Thank you for the compliment. I realize they don't come readily from a man such as yourself.

Definitely apply the 80/20 principle to texting. Superfluous texts come off as needy, as trying to continue a shallow conversation. You offer more by not being superfluous. It will definitely get a girl thinking about you in a different but good way.

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