I've been working on pickup for a while on my own. I feel like I've gotten some improvement with body language and qualifying. I always hit a wall when it comes to getting day twos and closing the girls. I'm not sure how to close a girl in the same night. I've done it only once and the girl was very outgoing on her own and had her own place. Honestly I'm not interested in that anyways but what I am interested is getting women to truly enjoy being around me and it's difficult. I can't get the day two and threes. It's too rare.

I'm becoming overwhelmed by the game. Body language and bar game is easy but the most complicated part is after you get the number and have to play this long grueling slow game. It's frustrated me to no end and it is the part of the game I hate the most. I feel that if you can't close the girl on day one then you're fucked. I'm stressed. I don't trust the game anymore and I don't believe it's possible to learn how to make women comfortable.

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I think you are over-thinking everything. Remember you are trying to have fun, if you fake it then women will see right through you and not go to far with you. Do you want to spend your time of day hanging with someone not fun? Enjoy yourself. Poke her, say funny jokes, laugh a lot(real laughs, not those fake chuckles when you aren't enjoying yourself). If you enjoy yourself, come off as a character, and escalate women should not forget you. GL

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I'm so frustrated by the game. It's complexity has me overwhelmed. After every failure I wonder if I've even had any progress. I'm still single and I don't one night any girls. Only happened once.

I feel like I have to solve a Rubik's cube with my hands behind my back in the dark just to get a day 2. Texting is a pit of despair. Numbers are worthless because girls I meet are too skittish and weak to break out of their comfort zone to hang with the guy they had fun with last night and they never have the balls to take a phone call because texting has spoiled them to keeping men at arms distance.

I'm just not sure what to do at this point. Body language and communication is as tight as can be. I'm relaxed and enjoy myself. I'm always a hit at parties. I have girls coming to flirt with me on occasion especially at house parties but it's like all attraction goes out the door the day after even if we sleep together make out or whatever. The next day wipes everything out.

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Woah woah. Don't be a pick up try hard. If you view pick up that way, as a chore, then of course you will be miserable. Try to find the good things that have come out of pickup. Seems like you have been dedicated and consistent in bettering yourself, that's good. Most guys don't even think about getting advice on how to pickup girls and get stuck doing the same crap every time. I have been in pickup for 2 years. I know all about that ^.

Pick up has it's up and downs but eventually you will come to be a competent ladies man. You can't explode everytime you have down time. You will make the progress longer than it should be. Chill out. My friend was and kinda is the same way. Took him 3 months of actively trying to lose his virginity. I mean he is still a negative nancy, even after he lost it, but we all start somewhere, some take long to "get it".

I have my share of successes but I also get mildly frustrated sometimes. Just how the nature of pickup is. But guess what, at the end of the day, I have done more shit than most guys on average. That's progress to me.

P.S. You don't have to follow every single rule in the game to a T. Instead of being in the moment you will be focused on what you remembered on chapter 3 in some pickup book. Don't get all overwhelmed by the information. Instead take a bit of it and apply it. Don't try to apply the whole book or whatever you're reading in one night.

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I agree with the above^. I know dude you are stressing and that happens, but do your best to relax. It is a numbers game always and the best you can do is try to increase odds of success. Girls you meet one day will be emotionally feeling you that day and lose those emotions when they fall asleep that night, sorry #moveon. Try this, when you meet a girl during the day plan try and set up a date later that night and when you meet a girl at night, try and plan a date another day. Now you two already had something planned and she will feel more compelled to follow through with her word. Again it is a numbers game, no guarantee she will not flake, but betters your chances. Also helps to try this on people you know or see around rather than strangers.

Credit to whomever gave me these ideas.

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I understand what you guys are saying. I have seen improvement but it hasn't really gotten me the results I wanted. I still have extreme trouble gaining real interest. Girls tell me I'm sexy often and I can make out in bars get numbers no problem. I just want something real. I want to generate genuine interest beyond just the immediate drunken attraction. I've never been able to succeed at this. Since being in the game I've interacted with countless women and the only one that wants to actively see more of me after meeting is a girl off ok Cupid. The only other girl was the one night stand who has become a booty call. I'm not slaying girls right and left. I haven't closed a new one since early summertime. And I've only had about 3-4 this year but that's not what is important to me anyways.

I want to generate real interest which feels impossible to do with a girl that I'm genuinely interested. I don't even know if game can help with this at all and if it can't I feel lost and I'll never be able to improve here.

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AFC Level 1

Simple, don't pick up women at bars. They are there for purposes of one night stands or to have fun for one night. You need to look somewhere else for women you can build a strong connection with. Try meeting friends of friends, going to social gatherings, and joining new activities. These will be the women that will be around with you more rather than one nighters with alcohol.

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Hey man were at exact opposites right now. I joined the game to pick up chicks and get it in. Now i getting feelings with this one chick we both like eachother but i don't like how i'm feeling the uncertainty of it. I'm falling for her which is irritating to me. at the moment i rather just pick up chicks. but this one is all i can think about. Now if this scary thing and connection is what your looking for then if you see a chick that catches your interest go talk to her and be real. be confident still but show them the real side of you as well and be alpha. after all you say you don't have problems getting girls interested but if you want interest as well invest some in girls to. That being said your might hate after if you get turned down and what not but that's how it works. don't be needy and just be fun and real with a girl who catches your interest.

I fucking hate the game. No matter how good I get at it. I hate this shit. So stupid. When something so simple as a nice text could fuck your chances it makes me lose respect for women.

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Because a simple nice text is generic. Everyone does it. It's like when girls you don't like text you. All the say is "hey". Or "What's Up". You don't want to respond back to that.


Kind of boring don't you think. Stop crying about, you're too focused on the "game". You aren't going to be banging girls left and right right out the gate. Either you curl up in your fetal position or you keep on going.

The more you want to generate interest, the more you will do the opposite. That's like chasing a rabbit and expecting it to stop. It may be a sign that you have still have some work to do with yourself.

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This guy has it right. You want to be enjoying yourself. I read somewhere that you want to not go out with the mentality of picking up girls. You need to go out with the mentality of being sexual and enjoy being THERE. Basically what the guy I quoted said. I just went through a really fucked up roller coaster of emotions trying to lay this one chick, luckily I got it done and when It was over I reflected on it. I realized if I would have just kept cooler it probably would have happened faster and I wouldn't have stressed so much. I made a simple note as my Sig. Pick up is as stressful as you make it(should I dare say pick up can even...FUN lol), especially day 2's, the anticipation and waiting can be a bitch that is why you keep yourself busy and you keep moving. No pussy shit and remember Don't Trip

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If a woman is really interested in you and you want to date her, then you don't need text game. You only need regular texting skills. For example you met her at the bar and you text her the next day. Just open with, "Hey, how are you?, gtz [name]", she answers and then you ask her, "Want to grab a drink with me?"

Trust me. This shit works. You don't need to overcomplicate things. All my past dates happened through this type of texting. Fast, easy and efficient.

Edit: if you assume women don't play games or don't act hard to get then game is fucking simple and not complex. I suggest you stop reading hard-core pick-up books and just read Models by Mark Manson or a simple book on direct game, like Badboy Lifestyle.

Picking up girls in clubs and getting a girlfriend are not totally incompatible, but it is not easy.
It sounds to me like you're in the wrong place for the wrong reason.

Are you wanting a bunch of SNLs, or a girlfriend?

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What the hell is there to do? Girls have no backbone to break out of their comfort zones to go on a date with a guy even if they have a great time the night before. And I'm damn sure they have a great time because they're begging to fuck. The next day everything is wiped and a switch is flipped. This shit seems pointless. If all I'm going to get is one night stands then I have lost faith in women.

Emotional connection with a girl is absolutely impossible. It seems almost a childish idea. It just doesn't make sense to even try and get a day two because they just don't have the guts to take a shot. The day 2 is absolutely worthless because they can't relax and be a normal person. I say come bull riding with me! They say no way I'll get hurt, I'm tired blah blah. Let's go to the museum and have drinks there. Nah I'm busy. Flake flake flake. Fuckin weak cowards is what they are. They can't handle a fuckin date. They're the ones who over think shit and talk themselves out of fun.

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Alright dude I've had enough of this. Everyone here is trying to help and support you with your troubles and you continue to block everything we are saying and continuously COMPLAIN about the same thing with different words. I know your problem, you keep sitting around whining about how it doesn't work, if you would take a moment and put some effort towards solving your problem rather than giving yourself reasons to not even attempt women anymore then you wouldn't even have a problem. Look at it from a girls perspective, read some stuff on day 2's, or try some more. It doesn't fucking matter. Do not sit on here and bitch about it, we all have our own problems and are willing to give you advice if you would listen.

It has been done, you need to look at yourself decide whether you want to fix your problem or give up.
The EXIT door is always open, but remember some men may not even have a chance to enter the building.

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