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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:56 pm 
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Hello fellow students of seduction,

One of the most important, if not the most important, aspect of pick-up is self-improvement. I think the core of success with women resides in the fact that we learn from our mistakes and (hopefully) do not repeat them (too often). The question would be stated as follows : How do you guys self-evaluate yourself ? Please note that I used the word self, meaning that having friends or wingmen help you should not be discussed here. My question applies more specifically to 1-on-1 dates.

I'm having some trouble getting over sticking points because I have trouble finding out what those are! I'll go on a date and I tend to simply go with the flow and not really pay attention to some details and I think these could be useful to changing certain aspects of my game. What are these details? What should I be looking for?

Thanks in advance,
-Avocadoes


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:47 am 
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Did I phrase the question wrong?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:51 am 
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Through a combination of PUA study and experience you can self-evaluate dates etc with a finetooth comb. Once you get good you'll almost never need to ask for advice again.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 9:46 am 
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You know you are doing good when conversations start flowing and switching from topic to topic. Girls will want you to go out with them repetitively, they will have fun around you. You'll start to get laid a lot and you will see that approach anxiety has dramatically decreased to the point that you don't mind rejection. You'll also start absorbing things unaffected without taking anything on a personal level. In short, you'll have this highly charismatic personality that becomes the center of attention in every place you go to.

In order to evaluate yourself, you have to remember the parts where you questioned yourself or any statement you made that you felt was not congruent with your body language (something you didn't express yourself honestly about). Go fast over the conversations that you had after finishing a date/night out and remember anything that you have any doubts about, even if it was a 1% doubt. Ask yourself: Should I have said that? If you still have even the smallest doubts about it, try to come up with something better to say the next time.

It's a fun process to be honest. You don't have to over-think things and complicate your life. What happened, happened, and there is no way you can go back in time and reverse things, so just make sure that it doesn't happen the next time.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:21 pm 
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Hello fellow students of seduction,

One of the most important, if not the most important, aspect of pick-up is self-improvement. I think the core of success with women resides in the fact that we learn from our mistakes and (hopefully) do not repeat them (too often). The question would be stated as follows : How do you guys self-evaluate yourself ? Please note that I used the word self, meaning that having friends or wingmen help you should not be discussed here. My question applies more specifically to 1-on-1 dates.

I'm having some trouble getting over sticking points because I have trouble finding out what those are! I'll go on a date and I tend to simply go with the flow and not really pay attention to some details and I think these could be useful to changing certain aspects of my game. What are these details? What should I be looking for?

Thanks in advance,
-Avocadoes
What works for me, and probably most other people, is writing it down AND READING IT BACK. I've made a journal on this forum that contains pages from over 15 months. It has improved me a lot, and I can read back my mistakes if I ever want to. Sometimes I don't even remember what night it was until I read the whole post and then vividly remember it. Otherwise you'll just forget. You can also see a big difference when you read your first post, and then read it back a year, 2 years, 3 years later. You change a lot, but it goes slowly, so you hardly notice it.

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Hello fellow students of seduction,

One of the most important, if not the most important, aspect of pick-up is self-improvement. I think the core of success with women resides in the fact that we learn from our mistakes and (hopefully) do not repeat them (too often). The question would be stated as follows : How do you guys self-evaluate yourself ? Please note that I used the word self, meaning that having friends or wingmen help you should not be discussed here. My question applies more specifically to 1-on-1 dates.

I'm having some trouble getting over sticking points because I have trouble finding out what those are! I'll go on a date and I tend to simply go with the flow and not really pay attention to some details and I think these could be useful to changing certain aspects of my game. What are these details? What should I be looking for?

Thanks in advance,
-Avocadoes
What works for me, and probably most other people, is writing it down AND READING IT BACK. I've made a journal on this forum that contains pages from over 15 months. It has improved me a lot, and I can read back my mistakes if I ever want to. Sometimes I don't even remember what night it was until I read the whole post and then vividly remember it. Otherwise you'll just forget. You can also see a big difference when you read your first post, and then read it back a year, 2 years, 3 years later. You change a lot, but it goes slowly, so you hardly notice it.

Wallie

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:37 am 
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I use the engineering concept of baselines.

The idea goes this way. Pre-PUA, I f-closed a girl in around 3 hours time from meeting her the first time to whipping out my dick and putting it in her vagina. That's my baseline.

Now that I'm into PUA, I always shoot for that 3 hours f-close while screening out for potential problems (STD risks, potential violence from husbands, boyfriends, orbiters or brothers and so on).

When you have a baseline, you find ways to make sure that you're building up skills instead of just getting plain lucky. You use the patterns that made you succeed from your baseline and adjust and calibrate from there.

To actually build skills though when, say, you failed to f-close girls within that 3 hour period, you have to use a seduction funnel which goes somewhat like this:

3-hour lay : Tier 1

24-hour lay: Tier 2

48-hour lay: Tier 3

72-hour lay: Tier 4

7-day lay: Tier 5

2-week lay: Tier 6

4-week lay: Tier 7

So if you're getting much of your lays at Tier 3 (48 hours), then you evaluate all of the factors that got you laid. You then tweak your approach to get more lays at Tier 2. Eventually, you'll get more consistent lays at Tier 1 or less.

I'm currently getting more consistent lays at Tier 7 and a few hits at Tier 6 and up.

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