The problem i have with posts like this, no offense to majikal, is that they are not practical... I wish more guys give practical advise that can be implemented...

To tell a guy be good with women...

Man the fuck up.

Be confident.

Be sexual.

Be this, be that, don't do this don't do that. It is not practical cause most of them already know all this.

What is practical is to teach me how not to be a pussy and what steps and actions they could take to learn in the long term.

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When I first started my current job, there was a guy there who would tell me to "man up" several times a day, not just when I was being a pussy about something, but just any damn time he felt like it. I felt resistance to this of course and although it was done with good humour at times I resented it a bit. And then one day I thought "fuck this guy, I'll show him" and I changed my act.

That guy was only with us for a few weeks (he was there from a client company to train us) and so this "encouragement" didn't continue, but I can personally testify to the effect that it can have to be told to man up repeatedly, actually especially when it's for no reason. Telling someone to man up when they're really struggling is perhaps a little unkind. Telling them it on a daily basis for no good reason is pretty damn motivating.

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But he didn't recommend to be confident or be sexual.

"Man up" is an overall cheer heard in sporting teams and work groups. No reason to look too much into it.
1. Don't whine. (do you have any particular strategies in mind to best accomplish this? How about, 2. Don't complain. 3. Don't moan. 4. Don't make excuses...

^These things do not require strategy or any particular skill. These are the lowest hanging fruits in becoming not only a man but a human being. Why do you suppose there is so much push back on such a simple, logical, obvious advice? I mean... this is right up there with , "don't steal", "don't shit on your plate and eat it." What the hell happened to these kids?

You went through all that to whine and complain?

1. In real life, men absolutely, without a doubt, every time, pull whiny little bitches aside to tell them, "Wake the fuck up and stop your whiny little asshole act. It's annoying the shit out of the team and it's fucking up our project."
2. This is an anonymous forum where we try to share ideas based on contributions off of other anonymous posters. Shall I pull him aside through a pm? What's his opportunity cost? Nothing matters here. Everything is anonymous and there is no win/loss. The only benefit is that we isolate anonymous idiots, make an example of them, so that others may learn. You wrote all that up to whine and complain... what are the chances that you will own up to your behavior pattern here? You pulled ideas out of the sky to whine and complain. "Daddies"... lol... Hitler was a daddy. Members of the KKK father children. Terrorists shoot em' up with their terrorists kids. You wrote nonsensical, out of the sky, made up mumbo jumbo just to support your habit for whining. But let me go ahead and write up your reply, "No I didn't..."
3. In real life, lessons are harsher. Ramifications at the work place for complaining, whining, bitching, moaning, and unloading responsibilities to others are obvious. In social circles, you won't get phone calls to hang out. With dating life, you'll be jacking off by yourself night after night. (I am imagining that this is why the thread was created in the first place?)
4. Whiny little a-holes seem to understand ^this cycle... but they are so caught up in their own little logic that they feel if they whine and complain MORE about how they are treated (like assholes) that the cycle might stop... but it gets worse... but they complain and whine again...
5. A little wake up call to some here... Every time your "I took social psychology my freshman year" hippy mommy and daddy told you, "Communicate with us." "There is no wrong answer" "You are special" "Everybody is special" "Tell me your feelings"... and you sat there and mustered out all your shit? Yeah, they were complaining about their whiny little a-hole kids to their hippy friends over joints on 'parent's night'. Eventually, aided by narcotics, they coaxed each other into thinking that churning out little whiny a-holes to the World is a good thing. Unfortunately, they were lying to themselves (because they hated it) and the World doesn't seem to like whiny little a-holes either.

*Yes, few exaggerations were made to make a point. Nothing is all bad or all good... but this whining, complaining and excuse making and responsibility dodging is no fun at all... especially for the one who dishes all of this out to others. Why the push back? Just shut your face and stop. Catch yourself whining and stop. Catch yourself complaining and stop. Catch yourself making excuses and stop. This can't be that hard...

This is the core of pussiness when it comes to women... Being afraid to fail.

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I can understand the meaning of the message. And I can lie about it but i'm pretty sure that I can say that I'm a big, whiney pussy. There are only so many times that I've NOT taken action and afterwards felt regret. But man, MANNING UP is totally not easy. It's sticking your neck out, daring to be different, showing your true self regardless of embarassement. I can understand why many people aren't real men. I can say it myself: I'm not a 'real man'. I'm sometimes or even many times afraid to show my true self, afraid to approach this or that girl because I think she's attractive. Only because I'm afraid what the other(s) think. MANNING UP if you're a pussy, doesn't happen overnight. It takes discipline and dedication to take action ans let go of your old, own self to become a better, new and true self.

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Emphasizing "manliness" as THE core principle of game is something that is crucial.

Problem with most AFC's is that they try and ignore "manning up", they know they need to deep down, but they go into denial mode and try and pretend its not an issue.

As another poster said the point must be DRIVEN HOME HARD because if its not people will always look for excuses not to man up.

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Did I just witness NLP within a forum post? This can't be real life. I somehow feel attracted to you. My nipples are erect and everything.

Let me break this down.

1. What you said there is a generalization. Not all men will pull other men aside and be like quit bitching or call them out. Some man are smart. Some men are humble. What you are refering too is a guy that not many people hang around with. They pull people aside and some people will know not to fuck with them. But generally they are bitter. Yeah that's a generalization. One that is quite true.

2. Why pull anyone aside in that way? Why not teach them in a better way instead of coming off as hostile and petty. Because that's what it comes across as. If you think this makes you a man, you are the polar opposite of a whiny guy. One extreme to another. You see, wise men are very fucking humble. Like CT Fletcher. He doesn't pull people down, he fucking motivates people and pumps them up. Also leads by example. That's a real fucking man. Not some bitter judgement guy on a computer saying "oh im a man. shut the fuck up and stop being an ass."

3. In real life it's vast, unpredictable, wonderful and even ugly. That saying, even moaning and whiny people get laid. Karl Pilkington being the most whiniest, moaniest guy on the planet and actually makes money off of it. People are people. People will be who they want to be, you can either motivate them in a nude erection (new direction) or you can pull them aside and pull them down. What will they learn from you? Nothing. Why do you think teenagers rebel from their parents that pull them aside about things? Because deep down it's still whining. Yes. Pulling people aside calling them a whiny asshole is still whining. You are complaining still.

4. I'm reminded of someone sat there bitter about how shit people are. Someone who doesn't live in reality where people are vast, silly, awesome, and a whole fucking mix of different personalities. See I'm assuming but what I'm getting here is someone who thinks they are 100% right and everyone is fucking wrong. Even real men complain, whine and bitch. It's fucking human. Difference is men get on with it, don't hold this idea in their head that people are assholes. It's bitter. And generally people avoid bitter people, rebel against their advice.

5. What I'm sensing here is that you are again being very bitter. You think it makes you a real man? It makes you appear to be a complainer, not a guy with a solid personality and a sense of who he is. You think that's a real man's purpose? Pulling people aside and telling them to man the fuck up? lol. If that worked it would be so easy. No again, people rebel and get repelled by that advice. The truth is. Being humble, understanding where the guy you're about to call out is coming from. Hell don't even fucking pull them aside. Motivate. Lead by example. Live a beautiful life. Or are we just hiding behind a keyboard. Pretending to be someone who is a real man. Pretending to be masterful and wise? What are we really getting at here.

Again, I'll invite to ask you. What is the big picture here Kasabi? Are you living by example? What are you doing to motivate people. That has guys thinking "Shit I really wish I was like that, this guy is onto something." Live by example Kasabi. Don't be a complainer.

I agree man. If it was that easy for guys, we'd all be doing it wouldn't we. But it isn't. Because there's something more to it than just simply manning the fuck up. Maybe it stops you complaining. But then if you never complain, how do you learn? I mean having an issue is a form of a complaint anyways. I think experience builds a man.

We are spoilt today. We don't truly understand what it's like to go out there, gather our own resources without any social crutches what so ever. I would say, it's the heart break, the experience of relationships and life in general that builds you into a man. Not someone sat on the other end of the computer saying man the fuck up. How is that ever going to change anything for a guy?

I'll tell you how many times I have called a guy out in the past (yes I've been like this in the past myself) and how many times did they listen to that advice? 0. They say they'll take it on but they dont apply it.

What we are seeing is something better, something more humble and motivating. Guys going out there doing approaches on videos. Or like your how-to dance videos skills. That's leading people in a better direction because it's motivating people. That's the guys that have my respect. That's who I call men.

Now that aside I'm not saying Kasabi has never given good information because he has. He's shown his value. But, I can't agree with him on this. But that's my opinion lol.

yes! i got that, my point is that advise like man up, or from other posters be confident, or from another posters approach, are not practical without a how to... But good points kasabi!

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Dude? Seriously? Maybe Im confused on the meaning of complaining, whining, and being a little bitch but this is ridiculous. Realizing there is an issue to be worked on has nothing to do with complaining about it. In my experience people dont follow complaining with learning.

To me complaining is a form of making a victim out of yourself. Men dont victimize themselves. Men work hard to obtain their goals. They dont complain about things they solve them. Your entire argument sounds like a guy whos lost and cant see whats right in front of him. Youre one of them...but argue on.

Losers cry about doing their best, winners go out and fuck the prom queen.

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Let me tell you something. The greatest men on this planet started somewhere. The greatest man was once a loser. The greatest man, was a victim, he complained about his life not being good enough. The difference is action. Not about being a loser. He went out there and changed it. We all whine, complain and bitch. It happens. And if you say you don't then you are just lying to yourself. The difference may be what you do with that bitching and complaining.

That winner goes out and fucks the prom queen then gets her pregnant and has a shitty life. You think winning is just about fucking women? You are wrong. There is something more to life than just this. You think winning is getting a girl. I laugh at that. I laugh at your heir of superiority. I respect that it is where your mindset is right now and that you are not willing to be open to the fact that it's actually life that moulds you into a man. But i don't have to tell you that. Time will teach you a few things about that.

I'd rather be shredded, ripped to fuck. Have women chasing me and be in the strongest health of my life than just chasing women and telling myself "oh yeah brah, imma man." It's emotional porn for men. That's all it is. Life is much more about having fun and providing value. Life is what you want it to be of course. It might be a contradiction. But it is what it is.

Tell me, what makes you a winner? What makes you better than me?

Again, the message is:

1. Don't whine.
2. Don't complain.
3. Don't moan.
4. Don't blame others.
5. Don't unload your responsibility on others.

These are simple, tangible, easy to follow, lowest fruit on the tree steps to take. In fact, these are non-step steps. The idea is to do NOTHING first. If you can't even keep yourself from screwing yourself over socially, then how the hell do you expect to move on to 'improving' your abilities? Some of you have moved ahead of the program. "OK, but telling me to be confident won't make me confident?!?!" - yes, and there are 1,000's pages of journals, threads, discussions, and arguments to support this reality. Forget all of that. First do nothing. First, shut your mouth with your whining, complaining, moaning, and blaming others. Just stop. These habit won't help you get anywhere. You can try out the whole confident, gamer, cool guy program bootcamps all you want. If you cannot stop yourself from screaming at the top of your lungs, "I am a whiny little asshole," to the World, you'll continue to be strokin' it at home. If you feel the habit surfacing... and even if you begin to do it for a minute, it's never too late. Just shut up and stop.

Still fascinated by continued push back on the very first steps to not only becoming a man/pu guy, but becoming a human being.

This is the disconnect. YOU whine, complain, and bitch. So you finally put it into words. These habits have become such a part of your life that you assume that everybody else does it. No... no, WE do not whine, complain, and bitch. YOU complain, whine, and bitch. This is why the people around you treat you the way they do.

^This message is not for you... because your push back and egotistical support for this horrible asshole behavior is so profound, that you will die thinking that the World around you is crazy. You'll die thinking that everybody treated you like an asshole because "they didn't get it" or because they are "mean spirited". There is nothing you can gain from this thread.

Guys... some of you aren't so far from ^this deep end. First begin with stop. Stop the idiocy. Stop the self hatred. Stop the self sabotage. When you can achieve this silence... you'll know it's time to move on.
This message is for you: You seem pretty focused with this. I am better than you. You are better than me. What makes me better than you. What makes you better than me. You are better, I am better... Do you realize that this is an anonymous forum and nobody else but YOU are focused on a totem pole rankings of the anonymous?