Hi guys. I was thinking of writing an article here, but instead I'm going to just introduce myself.

I'm Tony D of a certain blog that a few people read. I got into "game" back in 2006 and like many of you, became really, really obsessed with it. I went out 7 nights a week in for almost two years straight. It was hard work but I changed my life and dated a bunch of hot girls. Since then I've written a few books about my experiences and I teach professionally.

I've tried everything from speed seduction, Mystery Method, Daygame, clubs, bars, routines, natural, physical, street, social circle, harem management (no threesome yet for some reason), ONS game, long game. Shit. I've banged loads of girls. I'm knows as Zardoz from Masf and the Montreal lair. I've also posted tons of articles on Cliffslist.

These days I'm sort of feeling like an old man. I don't care to do pickup in a pua sense. I'm 35 and my interest has changed. Outside of work I wouldn't be involved in the scene at all. But I enjoy teaching and I'm good at it.

But if anyone has any questions, I'm at your humble service. I'll take the time to help you out for the as long as this thread has some action.

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Great! I need some advice.

I suck at closing. It's an old SP i've had. I can approach, gain rapport, kino and escalate but when it comes to closing I just suck at it. I used to n-close all the time and not worry about it but have since stopped as n-closing seems like a waste of time for me. When I first got back into PU I was n-closing, k-closing and getting offers to f-close(Which I never took up) but now it just seems like a distant memory with no real clue what to do or drive to do it. It's a shame because the last few nights i've been out i've successfully approached, gained rapport, escalated kino perfectly and had these women so naturally hooked on me they were screaming at their friends to go away and leave us alone but when it came to closing... I just failed completely.

Another problem i've had is closing a sure thing. For instance, and this really annoys me, there was this girl I befriended, got along with really well and she basically told me she liked me and wanted it to lead somewhere. I pushed for the close and said we should meet up. We did. She got really weird and shut me down hard. I froze her out then she got weird and started messaging me like crazy and getting others to message me to see if I was okay. After that I LJBFed her. A while later she tells me she likes me again, like an AFC I fall for it press for it then she takes it back. I've never had this issue before. Before PU I wouldn't press for things, as an AFC I always waited for women to come to me and force the situation... It worked but I just can't do that anymore. I much rather take control and force it to happen but i've been lead to believe you need to get it out of the way as soon as possible. Is this the case with a hook up with someone you already know or should you just tease it out and take your sweet time?

I feel it's my mentality that's letting me down here. At the same time I feel a few tips when closing and how to properly close would go a long way. It just seems like everything I knew on closing just disappears from my memory.

I think one of your biggest problems is apparent in the way you write. All the terms like n-close, and k-close and afc and lmr and all of that.

Stop using it...forever. If you use weird pickup language in your brain it means you're probably using weird pickup techniques in real life.

I'm willing to bet you had a lot of success with women before you got into reading pua forums and books and stuff. Before you were just being normal and fun, now you are looking at interaction like you have this great objective.

Have you read "60 years of challenge" books? He has a great method for teaching you how to escalate and close in a normal, natural way. Check that out.

Sorry if I wasn't very specific in my advice. But honestly I believe that you are over analyzing and doubting yourself. You're good enough man. You are. Lose the pua lingo. Step one.

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I didn't really have good success with women. I never knew how to approach, how to interact or gain interest. I would end up with about one lay per year, usually resulting in a relationship and everything was done on the woman's part, most of the time I would end up in a relationship that just wasn't good for me at all. I never instigated anything even if I had a massive thing for them. Now i'm the life of the party, women love being around me, they notice me in clubs and I can talk to them without being a creep and i'm a lot more confident in it. Even guys love being around me and inviting me out to parties just because i'm so much more confident and sociable. It's helped me in all aspects of my social life as well as in seizing opportunities or at least striking up a conversation which has done wonders for my self-esteem.

PU has really brought me a long way and, when I got back into it, I was scoring more women than I normally ever would in a year. I had three offers to f-close in two weeks when I started. I didn't take them up on it because it wasn't what I would normally do and, to be honest, wasn't something I was expecting so soon from pick up.

Don't get me wrong, I know PUA isn't magic but it sure as hell did a lot for me. It's self-help and it helps a lot of guys. Some do get carried away with PU altogether and I think you're confusing me with one of those people, but i'm not one of those. I just use the lingo because it makes it a lot easier to communicate on these forums.

I guess you're right about the over analysing. I should just go for it and not put doubt on it but the issue with that woman i've been on with is messy and on my mind. Going for randomers in clubs is just something I need to force myself into doing. Still, in your opinion how should you handle something with a woman you know likes you?

Well I think there's a lot to be said about going direct. Again. For you I recommend Sixty Years of Challenge. Read it.

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Alright, cool.

Tony d book is a fun read, i recommend it.... Shows all the shit he went through before he got good, if you like the book "the game" is written in similar format, but with shit that really works instead bs.

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Hey man. Thanks!

He's referring to my novel.

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Hey Tony, glad to see you over here posting on these forums too. We have a lack of quality posters sometimes.

For those who don't know Tony hes a cool guy, show him some love.

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So far I haven't read much of 60yo challenge. BUT the mean reason I don't like reading books too much is because it all stacks up in my mind during going out, and with all the thoughts confusing, i'm unable to be focused.

It's just that too much theory doesn't work for me, I'm more a guy that has to SEE how it's done, or practise it on my own. (and not just with pick-up, also with the things that are being taught to me at college). I can see that 60 years of challenge has good advice and stuff, but i'm just concerned about the fact that too much theory will actually work counterwise. Has that happened to you before?

Wallie

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