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Hey Wild, is it alright if you volunteer your number but do it in a totally alpha way. Style and co. say that this is total AFC but I am thinking of field testing it. What do you think? Thanks.
This can work but the chances of it working are like 1/10 so that being understood I would prefer to take a different path. See being ALPHA doesn't mean you have to be direct. Sometimes being ALPHA means you don't care as much about the outcome. See girls are most of the time shy or weary about meeting a new guy. If you run up and volunteer your number in an "alpha" way and do it wrong. You will become the weird creepy guy that scared her. She will then make sure all her friends understand that about you and now you're the scary guy girls stay away from. If you're trying to get laid stick to more indirect openers and try to make em chase you. In the end it means you get to set all the rules, and nothing makes you look more alpha than when the hot girls drool over you. You can field test it if you want but I wouldn't expect positive results.

Remember one huge thing for girls is a feeling of safety, and just coming up doing the number thing shows them nothing safe about you. If you want to be direct then open her with a compliment and let everyone listen to it. I've found that really works wonders if you notice something on her that she's spent allot of time keeping up. You can notice when a girl has spent an hour making some accessory look nice. So when you notice just walk up and say I bet that blank took allot of thought to throw together. I think it really looks nice. Let everyone here you it's ballsy and girls will like it. It will open a girl 90% of the time if you compliment her on something she's worked hard to make look nice. Just don't forget about the takeaway, neg, or disqualification that you use after the initial opener.

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Thanks, what exactly is a takeaway; and isn't a disqualification when you disqualify yourself as a suitor?

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Thanks, what exactly is a takeaway; and isn't a disqualification when you disqualify yourself as a suitor?
Disqualification is exactly that its like the neg and serves the same purpose to illustrate initial disinterest in the target. A takeaway is when you block her out similar to a freeze out. Like for example if you Bait Hook Reel Release and turn you back on her waiting for her to respond to you. It basically leaves her wanting more, and makes her value your presence.

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Thanks wildone, you are one of my favorites. The honesty, I love it. You are correct, I need to find approach attract and close more girls. Also, put a better stamp of self approval on my frame.

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Thanks wildone, you are one of my favorites. The honesty, I love it. You are correct, I need to find approach attract and close more girls. Also, put a better stamp of self approval on my frame.
Thanks for the compliment. :)

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Hey Wild One...I have a question about a sarge im workin on right now. There is this girl who i met and have hung out with at two parties. On both occasions i showed a lot of social proof by working the room and I talked to her and her friends a lot. I got her number, and i've looked at a lot of posts about phone game, but i was just wondering where i should go from here to get her to be my girlfriend because i think im really beginning to like her. Thanks in advance man.

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well ive just been reading thru "the game" by Neil Strauss and im from Birmingham UK, im actually looking for help in all areas , openers, to methods and techniques you use urselves,,,

and this is not meant to be a racist remark by any statement, be honest cuz i would prefer an honest answer "being a Asian 22 year old (Indian/muslim) is it harder? easier? or exactly the same as being part of the majority e.g White/Christian, I mean im not a religious individual but eventually it comes across I am of some religion due to my appearance, I mean I live in the UK integrate and I can integrate with cultural people, but just wondered if anyone could help me out there, is it the same as being a 22 year old White male or do i use my individual circumstances to my advantage........ quick posts please ... again not intending on any racist remarks if anyone is offended i apologise.


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can you follow this link please?

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Hey Wild One...I have a question about a sarge im workin on right now. There is this girl who i met and have hung out with at two parties. On both occasions i showed a lot of social proof by working the room and I talked to her and her friends a lot. I got her number, and i've looked at a lot of posts about phone game, but i was just wondering where i should go from here to get her to be my girlfriend because i think im really beginning to like her. Thanks in advance man.
Well you've got the number so I would call her and just chat with her on the phone. I would have a fun conversation and dhv with stories about my day. This is one thing I've become naturally good at over the course of my pua journey is being able to dhv threw telling my life stories or day to day events in a cool funny way. I throw allot of subtle things in their and I wish I could show you face to face what it looks like. My students learn this tactic and it makes you sooo much better when attracting girls. If you know how to be interesting and fun with them. So call her and just talk to her flirt with her a bit, and tell her about your day in a fun interesting way. Talk with her about a range of different fun topics involving relationships romance, sex, kids, loser guys, what you like in girls that makes them awesome. Have fun with her an enjoy the conversation. Also you shouldn't fall for her just yet, keep those anxious feelings inside by focusing on different things. If you play it cool she will fall for you and then you're in the drivers seat in the relationship which is where you need to be with a girl.

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well ive just been reading thru "the game" by Neil Strauss and im from Birmingham UK, im actually looking for help in all areas , openers, to methods and techniques you use urselves,,,

and this is not meant to be a racist remark by any statement, be honest cuz i would prefer an honest answer "being a Asian 22 year old (Indian/muslim) is it harder? easier? or exactly the same as being part of the majority e.g White/Christian, I mean im not a religious individual but eventually it comes across I am of some religion due to my appearance, I mean I live in the UK integrate and I can integrate with cultural people, but just wondered if anyone could help me out there, is it the same as being a 22 year old White male or do i use my individual circumstances to my advantage........ quick posts please ... again not intending on any racist remarks if anyone is offended i apologise.
Race only matters if you think it does. Really it doesn't because girls don't care honestly its just a culture category politicians put people in. With sex, love, and everything having to do with relationships those factors don't matter. Except of course if the person is a racist idiot, or extremely religious. If you are atheist I wouldn't advertise it to much because it has nothing to do with attraction. Your goal is to have fun sex, and good times so stick away from stupid topics relating to religion and race. If you're going to date her then it will become a factor but for sex its not important. So remember that the only thing that limits you in this case would be your mental mindset about the issue. If you think your race will inhibit your chances then you will have worse luck than if you thought my race is unique and I am proud of who I am. I want people to learn something from my culture I feel will better them, and I can give something good to the world with this. These girls are lucky to meet someone unique like me, that understands women and care about pleasing others.

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can you follow this link please?

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thanks.
Classroom settings are the best environments I love meeting and being around tons of girls in class. Its a great place to practice game. I would take my time with classroom game. Its so good if you build the relationship slowly in the classroom because you find that after the class is over you seperate for a long period. Which you should be working during, doing school work, and practicing pick up. When you come to class your target should be the hottest girl in the classroom. You should hit on all the other girls in the class starting with like a hb 6 then earning the affections of all the girls around you. While forward merging with a neg opener or neg opener joke. Make sure the girls you've been gaming have been hitting on you before you do this, and then you simply run your normal M3 method model on the hb 10. I wouldn't rush it just the first day try to work to a3 with the girls around you. Then when you come to the next class and they hit on you again you can forward merge and run to a3 with your target. Leaving her wondering if you like her or not, and all the girls in the class thinking this guy is loved by all the women. Next class you should flirt, reward punish(if necessary), run compliance tests and get her number. Also with regard to amogs you should stop thinking they're more special than you that sort of thinking is for losers. You not a loser you're a ladies man so start thinking james bond. Also learn how to play guitar or something cool like that ladies like that be different. Girls love sexy, and interesting. Football is fun to play but doesn't make a girls panties fall. So remember that. Make yourself the sex icon at your school that guys aspire to be.

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Well cheers for the post really appreciated, but here is something I need help on, I mean its not like struggling with women but obviously their is no harm in ever wanting more, I have no problem holding a conversation with a woman usings whichever techniques its just that I am more of a day game person and hoping if you could swing across some brilliant "openers" cuz the city I live in is full of good looking women whom are always on their own, and its not the coward in me holding me back its the "opener" holding me back what should I say or do, I mean after that I feel at ease can easily chat to a woman, its just making the conversation start, your probably wondering how I'm at ease with women if I never open with them "so hence how do i ever hold conversations with them" but its normally thru introductions etc etc, I actually wanna go out of my own way and use PUA techniques so suggesting some great openers and in certain situations like book stores, coffee houses, clothing shops, etc would be awesome.... and another point how did you ever become so talented in the game thru practice or PUA lectures/meetings I mean I believe your a true PUA but how does one know when they are if u understand


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Well cheers for the post really appreciated, but here is something I need help on, I mean its not like struggling with women but obviously their is no harm in ever wanting more, I have no problem holding a conversation with a woman usings whichever techniques its just that I am more of a day game person and hoping if you could swing across some brilliant "openers" cuz the city I live in is full of good looking women whom are always on their own, and its not the coward in me holding me back its the "opener" holding me back what should I say or do, I mean after that I feel at ease can easily chat to a woman, its just making the conversation start, your probably wondering how I'm at ease with women if I never open with them "so hence how do i ever hold conversations with them" but its normally thru introductions etc etc, I actually wanna go out of my own way and use PUA techniques so suggesting some great openers and in certain situations like book stores, coffee houses, clothing shops, etc would be awesome.... and another point how did you ever become so talented in the game thru practice or PUA lectures/meetings I mean I believe your a true PUA but how does one know when they are if u understand
How do you become good at pick-up? Well you need to put forth effort and time. You need to go to bootcamps, read material, and practice allot. I've been just learning as much as I possibly can about this, and I went to bootcamps. I went threw various schools of pua thought and adapted everything into my life. It's a constant progression really you do one thing then you want more. You are always trying to find ways to improve and once I started teaching I was challenged to be the best. I was also challenged to out perform other instructors. Some of them are just full of crap, and teach methods that don't work. They basically use people, and take their money. In return they get nothing out of the investment. When your a good pua you will notice a influx of women in your life. Pretty soon the number of women in your life will out weigh the number of men. Then you will start getting laid more and more. Eventually you just know when your a good pick up artist. My old friends without knowing I was a pua started asking me to help them, and now they're pick up artists. I basically also have hit on thousands of women. So I have been threw allot and adapted everything in such a way I understand women fairly well. To help you out with your openers you need to just keep your initial lines to girls indirect. For example today I opened an obstacle with this, "Hey do you know where the pet store is? I have no clue where a nearby store is?" I got her to write down the directions. While I had her writing directions I started asking for good dog names. I said I wanted to get two puppies and name one vanilla and one ice. They laughed then I threw a neg, and then I got an IOI. I had the girl qualify herself to me, and then I told a dhv story. It involved friends coming from chapel hill to hang out with me for the weekend, and another about valentines day. At the end of the conversation the hot girl my target liked me and I was in. Most of this success I feel comes from the way I deliver the material. How I tone my voice, and understanding how to react to these situations based off personal expieriance. My students when we go out have the knowledge they just lack expieriance on how to apply it properly. They need someone to visually show them how to get a girl attracted. It teaches them so much more than anything you can get out of the books.

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well again cheers ur actually alot more help than others, seriously its like giving me great confidence I mean im ready for the sarge but is one man sarge good idea or is it better to go with a wing????, and examples of DHV stories, Im fine with the NEG's, and on a level do u still get turned away from women or is that something you have tamed so it always works in ur favour???


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well again cheers ur actually alot more help than others, seriously its like giving me great confidence I mean im ready for the sarge but is one man sarge good idea or is it better to go with a wing????, and examples of DHV stories, Im fine with the NEG's, and on a level do u still get turned away from women or is that something you have tamed so it always works in ur favour???
Sometimes life gets in the way of a pick-up. You can't control all the variables when meeting people in a world with billions of possibilities. All you can do is increase your chances of success to their maximum, and I do that. I failed many times with women, but rarely do these days. It happens but not very much, and I honestly don't care if I do fail. I've failed before if I do I can learn something useful from the interaction. The realization now is not that I need to find the perfect women, but which perfect women do I really want? I've got so many great women that I love I could care less if I lose another. In fact it would do me a favor because it would save me the extra time needed to talk to them. I don't really fail with girls because I don't care if they're good looking. It's nice but I am around that allot and in my life I have good friends. So if they're not able to demonstrate to me they're a women of value then I need to avoid her. Women of value come from many walks of life. Last week every sarge I did came off successfully. You can't compare me to my first sarge back when I first started. This seduction world has changed my life and thats the main reason I like to teach. I feel obligated to help my fellow man avoid many years of banging their head into a wall.

With regards to DHV stories all they need to do is in a indirect way elaborate your day to day adventures. I've adopted a life that is fun, and exciting. I don't make up canned dhv stories, and thats because my stories are about my life. The best way for me to elaborate on this is via bootcamp, or on the phone. It so easy to dhv, and you don't have to work very hard to figuare it out. Send me a story of your past week, and tell me what happened I will make you a story as an example.

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