With every other chick I sarged over break, this was not a problem. This chick must have been pissed that I took her come-on so coolly, next time I would have seriously negged her for spitting and spilling her drink on me. If that happens again, it will be an easy call.

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My goal: To become a Pickup Artist in everything but name.

And yeah, This is (still) just the beginning.

hey Rye Lee. just wondering if you have any links to torrents for books or material for all us PUAs. ive found one, but there arent many seeders so i'm not sure if it will finish downloading. but here it is if anyone is interested

[Edited by Rye Lee for torrent info]

cheers

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Hi!

I have a problem, when i talk with girls there is ackward silences at times! what are some things i can use to fix this?

And if i like a woman but she is with many men, what do i do? what do i say to them? i read people talking about defuse the obstacles! how?

thank you

Sorry Germany, we don't promote torrent info on this site. I know there are people that have that information, but you'll need to discuss it via PM for legal issues that could affect the site.

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First, I think you should think about filling that silence. If silence opens up, then it's up to you to fill it, if you just stay silent, then she's gonna be silent, because women tend to follow instinctively. It's your choice to talk, so do it and be interesting, learn how to make people want to talk about what you're talking about and then there won't be so many silences that need to be filled, because the conversation will just flow. There are books on learning how to speak better, also look into NLP, I'd suggest Introducing NLP by Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour.

Second, read Venusian Arts by Mystery, it talks about this more than I can.

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Good call man. didnt realize the potential repercussions. Way to look out.

-Cheers

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Hey Rye...do you have any strategies for when a girl's friend cock blocks you?

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Nothing can stop the man with the right mental attitude from achieving his goal; nothing on earth can help the man with the wrong mental attitude.

Dear Rye,

I'm going to stretch out a relationship with a girl so that I really get to know her before we sleep together (say a couple of weeks and 3 or 4 dates at least)---she was ready to get it on during day 2. Any pitfalls or dangers to watch out for? Relevant advice?

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Well, she's blocking you because she doesn't think you're good enough for her friend, so you need to get around that. Generally I like to make friends with the target's friends, that way they like me and actually help me to succeed instead of trying to get in my way. If the girl's friends think you are an awesome guy, then they will want the target to be with an awesome guy and so they'll try to help hook you two up.

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~ Rye

I think this is a good attitude Roads, too many guys are concerned with getting girls into bed as soon as possible and by rushing it they can hurt chances at LTRs/MLTRs because they go straight to sex so quickly that that's what the girl thinks of when she thinks of your relationship. Going quick is fine if you are just looking for a ONS, or if you just have a highly sexually charged relationship, but if you are interested in building a deep connection, then waiting for several dates can be a good idea.

Now, the drawback to waiting a while is that the longer you wait, the more chance you are giving to make mistakes along the way and end up never getting in her pants because of it. If she was ready to sleep with you on day 2 though, then you're probably doing well enough that unless you make a big mistake you shouldn't run into that problem.

As far as recommendations, if you're interested in making something long term with this girl, then I'd be cautious of over-bonding with her and trying to emphasize your emotional connection because you might end up in LJBF zone. Make sure to keep the kino up and don't stop being physical just because you don't want to have sex. Maybe even tell her you want to make her wait, but you'll give her a taste and give her some oral/let her give you some oral and if you're letting her go down on you, try using the, "You only get 5 sucks this time," line and then when she's had her 5 sucks, ask her if she liked it and let her know that there will be more in the future.

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So I approached three HBs in a bar, i would say one 6, one 8 and one 9. So everything goes smooth from the start --neg the target 9 3 times within minutes and she was all into the conversation.

My first problem appeared when the set was going far too long for the advancement i was making--the entire interaction took almost 30 minutes, and only the last 10 minutes were in isolation with the 9. Anyway, I got the number close towards the end --and then everything went straight off a cliff. She hit me with the "are you going to buy me a drink" line --i said why don't you buy me one first, etc. She said she didn't have a job, i replied with i didn't have one either. At this point i think she stole the frame from me ---she said fine, when you call me we can go out and you can buy me dinner. I said maybe coffee, she said "i don't like coffee." I should have put my foot down right here in retrospect and took the frame back. It seems like the frame here was that she was the prize and i need to buy her something expensive.

Anyway, it really went downhill at this point --she said that she would be right back (bathroom), I said ok, i'll be hanging out with my friends come and find me --and i smack her in the ass. She didn't take it that bad at first, but it just started to explode when she came back to me when i was with my friends. She wouldn't stop talking about the ass slap --i'm not sure if this was anti-slut defense, a shit test, or what. It kept building until the cresendo --she was still talking about the ass slap and i was making jokes about it. Then finally she said something like I made a great first impression but a bad last one ---and i said fine, here i'll erase your number from my phone. Well, needless to say it ended there.

So close --29 minutes of work thrown away in less than 5. I'm very new to the game, so tell me what the hell happened?

Ok Plyka, I don't think it's a bad thing if they want to have an in-depth conversation with you right off the bat, that means you hooked them, but if you don't want to be spending that much time with a group, let them know you've got a time constraint, false or not and then let them know when you're leaving and if you'll be back. I'd rather have 2 long sets than 5 short sets, because then I was probably more entertained, because if I'm not entertained, then I'm out of there, I'm leaving because they don't have what I need. So if they are entertaining, then long sets are good and stay in them, if they are boring, then leave, because there is nothing promising there.

You shouldn't have been bartering with her when she started to bring up buying stuff, because you're right, you gave her control of the frame. When she asked you to buy her a drink and then you told her to buy you one first, that was good, but you shouldn't have let her off when she expected you to be paying for stuff and you don't have a job, yet she has no job and won't do the same. Soon as she said she didn't have a job I would have negged her and if she negged you about not having a job, either outsmart her, or don't answer her directly. When she told you to buy her dinner, I would have said something like, "Oh I see how it is! You're just looking for a sugar-daddy aren't you? Yeah, I thought so and sorry sweetheart, but I'm usually the one with the sugar-mamma. YOU'RE gonna have to buy ME dinner...and dessert...and nice new clothes and shiny objects and all sorts of fun toys! "

The ass slap didn't work well, because you'd just failed that shit test and so she wasn't feeling attracted enough for that to work on her.

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I've went to a couple of catering groups that has been meeting once a week the last two weeks at my school. I can tell the HB8 that runs it is really into me, but she did tell me about her boyfriend (a long distance relationship). I didn't make a big deal about it and I'm starting to build a good bit of comfort with this girl.

I ran into her at school the next day at school and had a very brief conversation with her. I asked her what day she'll be running the group next week. She told me she'll be running it Tuesday and I could e-mail her and she gave me her e-mail address (without me asking for it).

I need to know if she's trying to test me by seeing if I'll e-mail her real quickly. I haven't given her many IOIs, I asked her a few questions (which were probably IOIs). Do you think hurrying up and e-mailing her would be a good thing or should I just take it slow and wait until Tuesday? Should I e-mail her at all? What should I say to her? Any suggestions at all would be great. What would you do?? Thanks!

can you follow this link please?

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thanks.

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Thanks man...i'll keep that in mind next time i see her.

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