Actually . . . ^this was a bit of an ambush. Other than for psychotics, relationships are an absolute part of PU. . . and especially for those who get around often. People who constantly pick up and fuck do not not drop good fucks. They'll fuck, fuck, and fuck. They'll fuck sideways, they'll fuck while cheating and they'll fuck when they can get it. You can have bad relationships or good relationships but if you are fucking new people constantly, you cannot avoid relationships. For if you continue to drop EVERYTHING every time, it will in fact limit your 'new fuck potential' (unless you are traveling to new cities all the time.) When I was on this crazy path, I'd call the 4th number of the night and laugh my ass off while getting sucked off. I wouldn't care that the first girl was in bad mood or the second girl was 200 miles away at her dad's funeral. There is no "in" and "out" . . . it was always in, in, and in.

What I am surprised about is that some of the most prominent members of this forum have absolutely no pick up experience at all.

This thread has almost NO/zero sense of humor. It reminds me of some chimps at the zoo throwing feces at each other... except without the gooey humor. Sorry... that is just my take on this forum thread.

"Don't take life so seriously... you'll never get out alive" - Van Wilder (Ryan Reynolds)

Um... if you cannot laugh at yourself and others, what is the point of learning? The problem is, there is too much arguing and keyboard jockeying here to really accomplish much of anything. I had to backtrack and look at the original meaning to this post thread and I still do not understand what all the fighting is about....

Why are you guys battling each other in the first place? I myself have a sick/twisted sense of humor, but I see very little humor in these posts, not even a subtle bit. We would accomplish much more by having a penis measuring contest. To tell you the truth, I am hung like a tuna can... short and girthy.

My take on "2 common PU mistakes":
1) Taking yourself too seriously (no sense of humor)
2) Denying your desires (for female affection/companionship)

When you cannot laugh at yourself and the faults of others, you become a slave to societies norms it seems... I really do not see what the point of this thread is anymore. I try to keep my posts humorous (light-hearted) and somewhat insightful. I hope you guys can settle your differences and scratch one another's back instead of flinging fecal matter at each other. That IS what the matter is, right?

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The trick is to not over analysis 2 to 20 trillion steps ahead in the future. FOCUS all your awareness on the task at hand! Don't DIVID your focus on thoughts and feelings like, I should be doing this, what if she doesn't like me, I should do this after, I wonder what I should eat later ..... just focus on the PRESENT tasks and move step by step. But, let Tyler from RSD simplify things better for me ^_^ ..

Tyler's Top Secret To Making Pick Up Super Simple: Just... Do... THIS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WloORPfKnD4

muahahhaa...

DONSTON

PS there is infield footages in this youtube clip and solutions to your problem ^_^!
PSS Mindful Meditation helps as well on focusing your awareness like a laser beam.

Well, not all of us are here for jokes I guess. I know I joined because I learned a ton from the community many years ago and wanted to "give back" When I talk shit about hellhounds garbage, for example, it is not to be funny, but in the hopes that people don't walk around asking women if they are ovulating, for example.

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*sniffs the air*... Is that period blood I smell maam? Granted I don't go around asking if a girls' egg has implanted in her uterine wall, biology tells us that women are hornier at certain times in their menstrual cycle. Same with female orgasms... it is my belief and scientific fact (in many realms of reproductive science) that female orgasm is designed to suck and force your semen (and the sperm within) deeper into her vulva so that more man cum is retained in her vulva in order to increase her chances of developing a baby. Typically, only one sperm out of the millions you ejaculate in her ever gets the chance to fertilize her (typically) one egg. Biology is an amazing subject. To discount all the scientific evidence that certain stages of her ovulation are designed to make her want to fuck more to produce healthy children is just absurd in my humble opinion...

Reading assignment: if you doubt that women's ovulation cycle is made to have her "hunger" for sperm, read Sperm Wars by Robin Baker. It is truly an eye opener and reads part erotica and part scientific thesis from a person that studied how sperm navigate the vagina towards the goal of "mating" with female egg. Also interesting is how if more than one male tries to impregnate her in a short period of time, the two or more different ejaculations will actually "battle" each other for the right to fertilize her ovum. Hence the title of the book.

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I know about all these books including sperm wars and all the evolutionary shit etc. You need to realize, like hellhound, there is the science and then there is practical application. My arguments are that the practical application of this stuff is close to zero.

Detecting whether a woman is ovulating is extremely difficult and the differences in their actual behavior in terms of probability you will fuck them is quite modest as per studies (despite their abstracts saying the opposite (yet the numbers show the truth) so when you discount the actual difference in behavior x the probability you can actually tell someone is ovulating x the % of women on the pill etc. who do not ovulate normally and you have what is interesting scientifically perhaps, but useless in practice. Women still have a brain and societal pressures still play a huge role in behavior as the studies show despite the attempt at sensationalist abstracts to get attention for their studies. Check the following thread for a breakdown of perhaps the most quoted study regarding ovulation and sexual behavior: "Fertility in the cycle predicts women's interest in sexual opportunism" by S Gangestad et al ..

The end of this thread: a-girl-asks-if-i-intend-to-sleep-with-h ... 66-30.html

You will see that the numbers (and the authors own admission hidden in the study) show there is hardly much of a difference at all in behavior, which again, discounted by the other considerations out there make this research PRACTICALLY useless. I am not arguing that it makes logical sense that ovulating women should be hornier etc. and I also believe that is true, but NOT TO THE DEGREE WHERE IT IS USEFUL IN PICKUP. That is the key point.

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To put things in practical terms... On several occasions, I practically put my dick in a vagina and when she came, her pussy was like a sucking vacuum that was trying to drain my balls. I really didn't care where her ovum was at the time... it felt good. To discount all the scientific evidence.... if I have to play with her when she is bleeding:

1) Eat her bloody pussy and earn my "Red Wings", a biker term for cunnilingus while she is on her menstrual period
2) Put a towel down so the period blood does not get everywhere and either a) put on a condom or b) just wash off in the shower after sex.
3) Forgo sex with the girl on her period and find another female that is not bleeding out of her vagina.

There are many many studies out there. I am not aware of them all, but I find it impossible to tell what stage of the menstrual cycle each girl is on. Sometimes I can smell their pussy get wet for me. This is evidence enough for me....

I'm a big believer in reproductive science. To me, when a girl is horny for me, my dick gets hard, her pussy gets wet, and we find a place to isolate and stick Tab A into Slot B and repeat. I don't usually fuck to make a baby, but sometimes the condom breaks and a wonderful lil "accident" comes out 9 months later. I probably have at least 2-3 kids out there that look like me.

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Though i agree that the practicality close to 0, you can use for example the behavior they exhibit during ovulation as a road map when looking at approach invites and body language, do not discard science completely, as always the answer relies somewhere in the middle...Here is an example of a really good post of poetic and is totally practical:
http://www.theskillsmethod.com/142/

here is another one, by hellhound that is pretty good as well and totally practical:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIQqCDbgiAM[/youtube]


Here is a guy that is as well a bit research, science kind of that has triple my income, and save couple of my failing businesses, and has help me along with the concept of hellhound provided video,do what i call modern pimp game(in which you become the lover the women the provider)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZUZshxCQQA[/youtube]



So my point is research, statistic and science, do have application to pick up, but sometimes in some of the posts like one that hellhound was saying to wear read or some crazy stuff is a bit out there...

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Disgrace, read my answer to wing dude, anyways here man, ask and you shall receive:


chicoman 2 for 1 special narrated by thau007: http://vocaroo.com/i/s1ZqKjO7WqhU
chicoman on relationship dynamics: "Respect the COCK! and tame the cunt"
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my chicoman Field Report: wing: we are not going to that club all the girls are at least 50 pounds over weight.... Chicoman: NO dude, that is awesome, what is the address, lets go, i can't wait.


Anyways, humor/fun/selfamuzement super important in seduction, as long as is combine with intend, sexual vibe, escalation... Totally agree chicoman...Some of the guys in the forum take themselves too serious man to the point were they actually really hate each other like poison.

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I get the value of science and I use it more or less everyday in my profession (well mostly math), and I get some stuff is practical, but seriously, some of the shit hellhound extrapolates into pick up is completely nuts, especially ovulation related stuff. That has been my main issue w/his posts. I agree w/some of what he says in posts, but he goes completely overboard with the science he tries to reference and extract relevant pick up from. That's my only issue w/his posts. And I think it is important for other readers here with less experience to recognize.

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Yes! i told him that about 50 times...

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We are on the same page...

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