Don't worry about Hunter Fox - he's a troll who drops by every once-in-a-while when he gets bored of masturbating. The best thing to do is simply ignore him.

I agree with some of your advice - particularly regarding the fact that you command attention rather than demand it like some so-called 'alphas' do. It's an interesting nuance and one that I think is often lost on guys who try to carry themselves in an alpha manner.

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Lolbro, Y U still mad tho? Still butthurt over something from ages ago? I admit I like to troll a bit just for the Lulz, but there's always a point to my trolling, there's always an underlying message; that reason why I pick up on something that doesn't sound right. As for masturbating, yes, I have a healthy mix of sex and masturbation, it actually reduces prostate cancer risk. I masturbate more when on business trips because I don't have time to entertain a woman for the evening, women can be an inconvenience sometimes. I'm not ashamed of masturbation, i'm very open about it with women too. Women fantasise about men masturbating so I think it's something to be embraced, not confined to the top shelf.

There's lots of styles of pickup out there. It's not "macking" to make a woman cry. The OP said he demanded respect, I disagreed on the grounds that it's insecure. You're yet another guy with a chip on his shoulder like Paramount. Some things Return of Dream said were good, but even those points are nothing new. I come on here to learn new shit, not badly-explained poorly thought-out old shit.

I am not giving advice. What I am doing is simply speaking from experience. Things that I have learned from reading and from trial and error. Now I imagine that many people on here have learned a lot as well. Since this website aims to be a reference for would be casanovas I think it would be beneficial and empowering to the community if more people made more posts about what they believe to be true. Knowledge is Power.

I don't think the people that were disagreeing with me in this topic were holding a discussing. In a discussion your are respectful. You point out what you disagree with and you say why. Then the other person responds. Then the two people either agree or move on by agreeing to disagree. When you start saying negative stuff about a person's thinking you are inviting an argument. Really that's just petty.

This "it's what you believe to be true"... not the truth... we all have our version of truth...

I did point out what I disagreed with... I pointed out how it was weak frame... I pointed out what it inferred... I pointed out observations about your behavior... I pointed out it was an indication of neediness... I pointed out it was an indication of an ego that I was referring to(you know there are a shit load of definitions of ego... self image is not the definition I was referring to yet here you are explaining that)... I pointed out that it was a sign of low self-esteem...

What more do you want from me? Then I used your own personal behavior to point it out...

The point I'm trying to make is you feel disrespected... I didn't disrespect you... I didn't call you names... I didn't say you were a fool... I said you appeared foolish... don't ever associate who you are with words.... it will never be true...

I'd also agree knowledge is power... yet you yourself already refused it in this very thread... this is a hypocritical behavior... so who are you to advertise that concept? I gave you 2 great articles on the ego I was referring to... I offered knowledge to empower you...

I've made observations to help strengthen you.... nothing I've pointed out was to hurt you... it was to help you... your pessimistic attitude influenced this situation negatively... be an optimist and pull yourself out of this attitude..

Again I apologize that my intent came across negatively... as I said I know what you were trying to say but it simply will get you in a lot of trouble if you need respect... respect is a form of validation... a form of ego SPAM...

Peace and Love,

Vic

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What you offered me is what you believe to be knowledge. Calling me "uneducated and "ignorant" are names. What I say, I believe to be objective. So I'm going to say it is objective. It is objective. It is objective. okay

Uneducated is a state not a name. And I referred to you being uneducated on this topic.

Ignorant is a state not a name. Also I said you were ignorant regarding information... that is not calling you a name...

Not sure you hold a point sir... You've invested too much in this emotionally... this isn't an emotional discussion...

Again I apologized and even gave reasoning for my behavior... so you could see the perspective I was coming from... I'm not sure what more I can do... I've discussed this with others as well in the past... Nothing about this conversation is personal... therefore there is no name calling... I don't know you... I don't have a reason to be negative to you...

No word is inherently good or bad... if someone said I was uneducated on a topic I would go fix it... as I have in the past... if someone said that regarding ignorant it's the same thing.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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Not a name, but a state ...that's just a bunch of semantics. You can call someone ugly and say thats just a state. You can call someone stupid and say that just a state. What you need to do is stop labeling people.

Why do you think I'm emotionally invested?

Because you've believed these things to be personal: I've been calling you names.

I didn't call you stupid or ugly though ... and that is not a state that is more an observation of things about you... saying you are stupid is saying you are short on intellect and a lot more difficult since you can't really fix it and it's still based on perspective.... saying you are ugly is again a bit more permanent but even this is simply a perspective ... I don't believe you are stupid... I don't believe you are ugly... the fact that you associated anything I said with those words makes me feel you are very emotionally invested... you've taken my statements personally while they weren't... hence invested...

I didn't call you ignorant... I didn't call you uneducated... I merely stated those on THIS particular topic. That's the thing... if I was to say you are uneducated I agree... but those weren't how I presented things... think about it... I never said YOU are uneducated... I said you are uneducated on this.... I didn't say you are ignorant I said you were ignorant on behalf of this...

Peace and Love,

Vic

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Dude, you might just be crazy...

You just keep going in circles.

LOL... Guarantee... we're all a lil crazy

I just want you to realize how I behave and think... so you see that this isn't personal... this isn't me calling you names.... I keep going over the same shit because you aren't seeming to contemplate my perspective... I don't know that I can make it any easier either....

Whatevs... sorry you took it that way... That is all...

Peace and Love,

Vic

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I'm not crazy. I know your perspective and I know its wrong. Those are insults.

A perspective can't be "wrong." It's a perspective.

per·spec·tive
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noun

1. the art of drawing solid objects on a two-dimensional surface so as to give the right impression of their height, width, depth, and position in relation to each other when viewed from a particular point.
"a perspective drawing"
a view or prospect.
plural noun: perspectives
synonyms: view, vista, panorama, prospect, bird's-eye view, outlook, aspect More
GEOMETRY
the relation of two figures in the same plane, such that pairs of corresponding points lie on concurrent lines, and corresponding lines meet in collinear points.

2.a particular attitude toward or way of regarding something; a point of view


Just cause someone doesn't agree with your point of view or doesn't have the same point of view as you do does not make you wrong. This whole forum is designed for people to share their theories and others to view them or debate on them. Stop taking everything so personally man. He was sharing his point of view....

"respect the cock tame the cunt" there you go...

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Ah... I get it... you have no ability to transcend a situation and see a different perspective... Fair enough... I can explain it 10,000 times you'll never get it if you can't transcend things...

I'll leave it with ...

I'm genuinely sorry for offending you...

Peace and Love,

Vic

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Let's not get too caught up in the technicalities. Things can be easily misinterpreted online. The dude made a few good points, disagreed with some points, but that's why people study different types of game. There is no single right answer, only lots of wrong answers (needy AFC beta mistakes). If there was one right answer, there would only be one master PUA, but there are many PUA teachers with many different styles. What works for the OP wouldn't work for me, but the key is to find a style that is congruent with your personality.