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I am a dancer and am used to getting laid with other dancers. Lately I've been taking "daygame" quite seriously and have been approaching women on the street. For some time I tried routines and negging to see what happened, and it got some bad results. It's made me a little insecure about approaching on the street, but for the most part I'm getting there.

Typically I will wait for eye contact, and as soon as I get it I will smile. Sometimes I'll smile before, just because I feel like smiling. I've noticed that typically I don't get any smiles back.

I've found that women who make strong eye contact are perfectly willing to chat, although some of them are busy. I've invited them to a local bar, but they tell me about other things they have to do.

Am I going about this correctly? It's still feeling a little strange to me.


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You need to build more rapport before inviting them out for an immediate Day 2. Also make sure you have enough material to avoid any hesitation or silence whatsoever. The moment you hesitate or the moment there's a second of silence, you're in a hole. You need to make yourself appear as a ball of fun.

As for smiling, don't do it before making eye contact... Because it may appear creepy to just be looking at your phone, then glancing up only to see someone giving you a creepy smile. Instead, approach by using a routine that fits your frame. An easy one is to just ask for directions.


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I am a dancer and am used to getting laid with other dancers. Lately I've been taking "daygame" quite seriously and have been approaching women on the street. For some time I tried routines and negging to see what happened, and it got some bad results. It's made me a little insecure about approaching on the street, but for the most part I'm getting there.

Typically I will wait for eye contact, and as soon as I get it I will smile. Sometimes I'll smile before, just because I feel like smiling. I've noticed that typically I don't get any smiles back.

I've found that women who make strong eye contact are perfectly willing to chat, although some of them are busy. I've invited them to a local bar, but they tell me about other things they have to do.

Am I going about this correctly? It's still feeling a little strange to me.
You're mixing elements of night game into day game, which you can do but you need to read lightly. Negging a woman in day game is not the same as negging one in night game. During nights, women are out at clubs to be social and meet new people, they are alot more susceptible to that form of flirting and playfulness. During the daytime, they might not understand or comprehend that you're there to flirt and teas her, she might instead think you're being "creepy" i've found it best to approach day game with direct game, and situation openers.

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I am a dancer and am used to getting laid with other dancers. Lately I've been taking "daygame" quite seriously and have been approaching women on the street. For some time I tried routines and negging to see what happened, and it got some bad results. It's made me a little insecure about approaching on the street, but for the most part I'm getting there.

Typically I will wait for eye contact, and as soon as I get it I will smile. Sometimes I'll smile before, just because I feel like smiling. I've noticed that typically I don't get any smiles back.

I've found that women who make strong eye contact are perfectly willing to chat, although some of them are busy. I've invited them to a local bar, but they tell me about other things they have to do.

Am I going about this correctly? It's still feeling a little strange to me.

Street game is a good start for sharpening your body language reading skills and perfecting your situational openers. As someone noted earlier, it's creepy as fuck to be smiling without any approach invitation cues from the girl whatsoever.

Instead of focusing on verbal routines, focus on nonverbal routines. To shoot up your odds for an instadate or #close, what you need to look for are these nonverbal signs:

1. When your eyes meet a girl's eyes, she looks down and looks back up again and then smiles at you. Some girls will blush. You can easily number close these girls when you eye fuck them.

2. When you eye fuck a girl, she eye fucks you back. Some girls will look down repeatedly at your cock area while you're eye fucking them, these girls are easy to pull for an isolation bounce (instadate).

3. Some girls will get so close and start rubbing their breasts at your arm. These girls are easy to pull for an isolation bounce.

Since logistics is the most common problem during daygame (girls need to work, need to go to school, are going somewhere, etc.), start with an instadate (a big request) and when you get turned down (it's not your fault, the girl is just busy or is going somewhere) go for the #close (a smaller request). When you get turned down on the #close, go for an email address close (an even smaller request).

Your closes will be easier though and your flake rates will be very minimal if you can give girls maximum possible fun in 10 minutes or less while eye fucking them during the interaction.

For instance, inside a public transport, I opened this girl yesterday with a situational opener on her jeans which has so many holes in it. This is the current fashion trend at my place.

PUA: "How many booster shots did you get for rabies?"
Girl: "Huh."
PUA: (Points to her jeans with many holes.) "Was it a Shitzu puppy, or Spitz, or Pomeranian that ruined those?" (Eye fuck starts.)
Girl: (Giggles.) "No. We don't have a dog." (She eye fucks me back.)
PUA: "Ah. So it was a cat then. So was it a Persian cat or a Pusakal?"
Girl: (Laughing.) We have a Siamese cat. A relative gave it to us. (Her eyes twinkled. She's a cat lover.)
PUA: "I presume your cat has a different meow than the local cats. Do you speak to her in Thai when you feed her?"
Girl: (Laughing out loud uncontrollably.) "My cat is a HE."
PUA: "Oh. He has a big penis then because your cat is imported. Is he hung like a horse?"
Girl: (Hits my arm and looks at my cock area.) "You're so funny. I'll disembark at the corner. My name is xxxx. Here's my number. What's your name?"
PUA: "Hellhound. Pleased to meet you. Let's see each other sometime." (Shakes her hand.)
Girl: "Okay." (Winks.) "You're handsome."
PUA: "I know. See yah."

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I am a dancer and am used to getting laid with other dancers. Lately I've been taking "daygame" quite seriously and have been approaching women on the street. For some time I tried routines and negging to see what happened, and it got some bad results. It's made me a little insecure about approaching on the street, but for the most part I'm getting there.

Typically I will wait for eye contact, and as soon as I get it I will smile. Sometimes I'll smile before, just because I feel like smiling. I've noticed that typically I don't get any smiles back.

I've found that women who make strong eye contact are perfectly willing to chat, although some of them are busy. I've invited them to a local bar, but they tell me about other things they have to do.

Am I going about this correctly? It's still feeling a little strange to me.

Street game is a good start for sharpening your body language reading skills and perfecting your situational openers. As someone noted earlier, it's creepy as fuck to be smiling without any approach invitation cues from the girl whatsoever.

Instead of focusing on verbal routines, focus on nonverbal routines. To shoot up your odds for an instadate or #close, what you need to look for are these nonverbal signs:

1. When your eyes meet a girl's eyes, she looks down and looks back up again and then smiles at you. Some girls will blush. You can easily number close these girls when you eye fuck them.

2. When you eye fuck a girl, she eye fucks you back. Some girls will look down repeatedly at your cock area while you're eye fucking them, these girls are easy to pull for an isolation bounce (instadate).

3. Some girls will get so close and start rubbing their breasts at your arm. These girls are easy to pull for an isolation bounce.

Since logistics is the most common problem during daygame (girls need to work, need to go to school, are going somewhere, etc.), start with an instadate (a big request) and when you get turned down (it's not your fault, the girl is just busy or is going somewhere) go for the #close (a smaller request). When you get turned down on the #close, go for an email address close (an even smaller request).

Your closes will be easier though and your flake rates will be very minimal if you can give girls maximum possible fun in 10 minutes or less while eye fucking them during the interaction.

For instance, inside a public transport, I opened this girl yesterday with a situational opener on her jeans which has so many holes in it. This is the current fashion trend at my place.

PUA: "How many booster shots did you get for rabies?"
Girl: "Huh."
PUA: (Points to her jeans with many holes.) "Was it a Shitzu puppy, or Spitz, or Pomeranian that ruined those?" (Eye fuck starts.)
Girl: (Giggles.) "No. We don't have a dog." (She eye fucks me back.)
PUA: "Ah. So it was a cat then. So was it a Persian cat or a Pusakal?"
Girl: (Laughing.) We have a Siamese cat. A relative gave it to us. (Her eyes twinkled. She's a cat lover.)
PUA: "I presume your cat has a different meow than the local cats. Do you speak to her in Thai when you feed her?"
Girl: (Laughing out loud uncontrollably.) "My cat is a HE."
PUA: "Oh. He has a big penis then because your cat is imported. Is he hung like a horse?"
Girl: (Hits my arm and looks at my cock area.) "You're so funny. I'll disembark at the corner. My name is xxxx. Here's my number. What's your name?"
PUA: "Hellhound. Pleased to meet you. Let's see each other sometime." (Shakes her hand.)
Girl: "Okay." (Winks.) "You're handsome."
PUA: "I know. See yah."

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this is a really cool and motivational story but how do you exactly eye-fuck?is there any links or forum posts?

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I am a dancer and am used to getting laid with other dancers. Lately I've been taking "daygame" quite seriously and have been approaching women on the street. For some time I tried routines and negging to see what happened, and it got some bad results. It's made me a little insecure about approaching on the street, but for the most part I'm getting there.
Do not use routines and negging is unnecessary. If you they are walking walk with them or get them to stop, say hi! i am_____, look at her body language and interest, at that point you can say i think you are cute/adorable, wanted to find out if your looks match your personality. another one, how are you gonna look at me like that and no say hi, i am _____. No need for silly negs or routines, do not be in your head talk noramal, with flirting and a bit of a sexual vibe.
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Typically I will wait for eye contact, and as soon as I get it I will smile. Sometimes I'll smile before, just because I feel like smiling. I've noticed that typically I don't get any smiles back.
Do not smile, smirk, smirk is better here is a sample :wink:
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I've found that women who make strong eye contact are perfectly willing to chat, although some of them are busy. I've invited them to a local bar, but they tell me about other things they have to do.

Am I going about this correctly? It's still feeling a little strange to me.
Yes, you are looking for non verbal approach invites, which is smart. forget about routines or negs.

P.S. this does not belong in the lounge....

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PUA: "How many booster shots did you get for rabies?"
Girl: "Huh."
PUA: (Points to her jeans with many holes.) "Was it a Shitzu puppy, or Spitz, or Pomeranian that ruined those?" (Eye fuck starts.)
Girl: (Giggles.) "No. We don't have a dog." (She eye fucks me back.)
PUA: "Ah. So it was a cat then. So was it a Persian cat or a Pusakal?"
Girl: (Laughing.) We have a Siamese cat. A relative gave it to us. (Her eyes twinkled. She's a cat lover.)
PUA: "I presume your cat has a different meow than the local cats. Do you speak to her in Thai when you feed her?"
Girl: (Laughing out loud uncontrollably.) "My cat is a HE."
PUA: "Oh. He has a big penis then because your cat is imported. Is he hung like a horse?"
Girl: (Hits my arm and looks at my cock area.) "You're so funny. I'll disembark at the corner. My name is xxxx. Here's my number. What's your name?"
PUA: "Hellhound. Pleased to meet you. Let's see each other sometime." (Shakes her hand.)
Girl: "Okay." (Winks.) "You're handsome."
PUA: "I know. See yah."

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Is this a real example? This sounds like a fabrication based on what you'd want to happen.


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Is this a real example? This sounds like a fabrication based on what you'd want to happen.
Hellhound is legit, and I don't doubt his story for one second. It's not unreasonable in any case.


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this is a really cool and motivational story but how do you exactly eye-fuck?is there any links or forum posts?
Here: how-to-make-a-woman-fall-in-love-with-y ... 89-15.html

Jump to the post, "Why the Eyefuck Routine Works". The post shows the science behind it and how other PUAs use it.
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Is this a real example? This sounds like a fabrication based on what you'd want to happen.
I just banged her a few moments ago.

If you want to read about my failures, here are nine mistakes I've made: buying-her-a-drink-scientific-theories- ... 64143.html

This is a forum where most members are newbies or broken hearted guys with a lot of failures, rejections and heartaches. I perfectly understand that many guys cannot relate with the guy who tells about his successful closes without mentioning about his failures.

Most PUA books start this way in an almost formulaic manner: I failed. I learned my lessons the hard way. Here are the lessons that I've learned for which you paid this PUA book for.

Yeah. I failed a lot more than I've succeeded BUT if I dwell on the failures, I'll be depressed as fuck and not be able to sarge. It helps your game a lot when you feel good and then sarge. At this stage though, I'm not failing as much as I used to.

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this is a really cool and motivational story but how do you exactly eye-fuck?is there any links or forum posts?
Here: how-to-make-a-woman-fall-in-love-with-y ... 89-15.html

Jump to the post, "Why the Eyefuck Routine Works". The post shows the science behind it and how other PUAs use it.


its very confusing but i can understand it a bit,thank you Mr.Hellhound :)you are very helpful

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its very confusing but i can understand it a bit,thank you Mr.Hellhound :)you are very helpful
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The idea is to dilate your pupils (make it grow big) so it occupies 80% to 90% of your iris. When a woman sees that your pupils are big, her pupils will likewise grow bigger which will occupy some 80% to 90% of her iris.

So how do you make your pupils grow big? While looking into the girl's eyes, imagine fucking her brains out. Do not look at any of her erotic body parts and focus only on the girl's eyes. Sometimes, the girl's pupils will just occupy 50% of her iris but will eye fuck you still. This means that you are not horny enough and the girl is simply mirroring your sexual state.

If you are horny enough, the girl will likewise be horny enough enabling you to sexually escalate faster either through touch (kino) or words (sexual innuendos).

Personally, I put shiny things near my cock area. When a girl looks at my crotch, it usually triggers her pupils to grow and occupy the irises from 50% to 80%. Funny thing is, when I started putting shiny things near my cock, more girls are saying straight to my face that I'm handsome or "I love you" even those girls I haven't f-closed yet. Based on girls' body language, I think "You're handsome" is girlie speake for "I want your cock inside my pussy."

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This is a forum where most members are newbies or broken hearted guys with a lot of failures, rejections and heartaches.
I've noticed that, that's the only reason I was skeptical.
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I perfectly understand that many guys cannot relate with the guy who tells about his successful closes without mentioning about his failures.
That's not really the problem. I guess the problem is that I've never had a random stranger jump in me like that. It seems too easy. I guess I don't understand what's going on here. You also make a lot of crude jokes, something I can't currently do. Is this level of humor necessary?

Are you saying if I eyefuck the girl and she eyefucks me back, and I put shiny things around my cock area, girls will give me direct hints (from their perspective) that they're down, even if I just met them in public? I've been told that humor is a terrible thing to seduce women, and I've tried being funny and not being funny, and typically the girls just don't care that I'm trying to be funny (unless they're down).


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Are you saying if I eyefuck the girl and she eyefucks me back, and I put shiny things around my cock area, girls will give me direct hints (from their perspective) that they're down, even if I just met them in public?
Have you ever seen a female cat in heat? The principle is the same. The only difference is that with human females, the signs are more subtle. Hence, it's our jobs as PUAs to be very sharp in reading these subtle signs.

A woman's ovulation cycle occurs every 28 days. Peak ovulation occurs for some 5 to 6 days. This is the point when women are in heat and are showing very subtle signs that they are horny. What does this imply?

Out of 20 random women you see on the street, 4 women will be in their peak ovulation period and hence, are horny as fuck. If you have very masculine facial and body features, you can use this to your advantage to sarge horny women while they're on their peak ovulation. If you have feminine features, the direct approach will not work for you. You would be better off doing indirect approaches on the 16 women that are not ovulating and forget about the 4 women who are horny.

If you have successfully opened an ovulating woman but cannot f-close on the same day because she's going somewhere or she's busy your window of opportunity to f-close on a day2 or day3 should be made within 2 to 3 days. While 5 days is a tall order, you might be in luck that you might have opened her when her peak ovulation was just starting.

Setting up a hangout after 6 days is a surefire formula for a failed f-close. BUT, you can always escalate on her next peak ovulation period.

When a woman is on her peak ovulation, she can't help but look at the cock of a fun and sexy male.

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its very confusing but i can understand it a bit,thank you Mr.Hellhound :)you are very helpful
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The idea is to dilate your pupils (make it grow big) so it occupies 80% to 90% of your iris. When a woman sees that your pupils are big, her pupils will likewise grow bigger which will occupy some 80% to 90% of her iris.

So how do you make your pupils grow big? While looking into the girl's eyes, imagine fucking her brains out. Do not look at any of her erotic body parts and focus only on the girl's eyes. Sometimes, the girl's pupils will just occupy 50% of her iris but will eye fuck you still. This means that you are not horny enough and the girl is simply mirroring your sexual state.

If you are horny enough, the girl will likewise be horny enough enabling you to sexually escalate faster either through touch (kino) or words (sexual innuendos).

Personally, I put shiny things near my cock area. When a girl looks at my crotch, it usually triggers her pupils to grow and occupy the irises from 50% to 80%. Funny thing is, when I started putting shiny things near my cock, more girls are saying straight to my face that I'm handsome or "I love you" even those girls I haven't f-closed yet. Based on girls' body language, I think "You're handsome" is girlie speake for "I want your cock inside my pussy."

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thats a way better explanation,shows the scientific side and psychological side, thank you hellHound
you sir are a gent!! :D

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I've been told that humor is a terrible thing to seduce women.
Who proffered that preposterous hypothesis. The ability to make a woman laugh is perhaps the most attractive quality a man can possess. While Hellhound's jokes were not necessarily the highest form of the comedic art, they obviously held some appeal for the girl in question. And it is a well-known scientific fact that women giggle to redirect attention from the wetness of their crotches. (Okay, maybe that's not entirely true, but the other thing is.)

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