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Dear doc,

1) I have a 14 inch penis and it's causing me to slouch when I walk. Solutions?

2) What would be a good example of a push-pull during comfort? (Hah! Didn't think I'd let it go did you? ) :lol:

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sup doc. I recently just discovered what my 'sticking point' is. My 'style' is basically cocky/funny and it always works to get the girls initially attracted to me. But the problem is I dont know when to turn off the asshole and I find myself eventually working backwards and the attraction kind of dies because I wont stop being a jerk. I guess im afraid of appearing to be too 'nice.' My questions are , when do you turn off the 'asshole' or cocky/funny and start opening up to the girl and being nice? And how nice?


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Dear doc,

1) I have a 14 inch penis and it's causing me to slouch when I walk. Solutions?

2) What would be a good example of a push-pull during comfort? (Hah! Didn't think I'd let it go did you? ) :lol:

I find wrapping the sucker around a leg to help with this problem.


As for the Push-Pull example, maybe something like this

Me: Wow thats awesome that we both love oranges... (Pull)
Me: Shame it'd never work out between us (Little Push)
HB: What do you mean? (Little Pull)
Me: We're just way to similiar, blah blah blah, C&F (Push)
HB: No no, blah blah blah (Pull)


Push/Pull is all about giving and taking, push in to avdance, then pull back and she'll advance.


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sup doc. I recently just discovered what my 'sticking point' is. My 'style' is basically cocky/funny and it always works to get the girls initially attracted to me. But the problem is I dont know when to turn off the asshole and I find myself eventually working backwards and the attraction kind of dies because I wont stop being a jerk. I guess im afraid of appearing to be too 'nice.' My questions are , when do you turn off the 'asshole' or cocky/funny and start opening up to the girl and being nice? And how nice?
To be honest I'm very very very rarely a 'jerk' as you put it. What your talking about would be A3 in the MM M3 model. This is where you need to accept her interest and reward her for it.

I wittnessed recently while out with a few other PUA's, a girl who came and approached one of us while we were talking... and my god the poor girl who has probably about a 7 got slaughtered with NEG after NEG after NEG... now I don't think any of us really were interested in closing this girl, but there comes a point when a girl has been negged, or 'jerked' around to the point that all you have to do is recipricate an IOI or 2, and she'll completely melt.


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Dear Doc,

1) When sarging a large set (more than 7 people) with a wing, how do you divide up the time between the two of you? Do you both speak simultaneously, each to one half of the set, or do you take turns.

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1) When sarging a large set (more than 7 people) with a wing, how do you divide up the time between the two of you? Do you both speak simultaneously, each to one half of the set, or do you take turns.
For large groups I like to have myself and my wing both gain control of the whole group. Typically by feeding off each other and both joking and speaking to the whole group at first.

After a few minutes you'll usually be able to split it up more and break the group into smaller fragments that are more managable for one person. The lead will seperate a group with his body language and then the wing with seperate to the other part of the group. This way you both have an easier time isolating your targets.


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1) When sarging a large set (more than 7 people) with a wing, how do you divide up the time between the two of you? Do you both speak simultaneously, each to one half of the set, or do you take turns.
Find your target and have your wing talk to her. You ignore the target and have conversations with her friends. It's difficult to say, "You have 1 minute with her, then her, then her". Just go with the flow and make sure to get everyone involved, except the target :)

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1) When sarging a large set (more than 7 people) with a wing, how do you divide up the time between the two of you? Do you both speak simultaneously, each to one half of the set, or do you take turns.
Find your target and have your wing talk to her. You ignore the target and have conversations with her friends. It's difficult to say, "You have 1 minute with her, then her, then her". Just go with the flow and make sure to get everyone involved, except the target :)
I disagree.

Although some methods encourage excessivly ignoring your target... I think that it's a mistake. The reasons for paying less attention are primarily to get her trying to gain your approval, and for you to gain her friends approval... If you totally exlcude her and have a wing talk to her you run a very high likelyhood of her believing that he is the one interested in her... not you.

I try to pay fairly equal attention to those in the group who hook to me quickly (typically those in close proximity to me), and then engage the others as they give indicators of being interested in our conversation... I very rarely will completely ignore my target... I don't want to say never, but I can't think of a time where I did.


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Dear Doc,

1) Sometimes when I sarge I see women who are attention hogs. They enjoy the attention you give them, but are simply teases when it comes to closing. How should one combat this in the field, without ejecting?

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Dear Doc,

1) I'm trying out the dinner and a movie thing, please describe how you proceed with kino escalation during the movie.

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1) Sometimes when I sarge I see women who are attention hogs. They enjoy the attention you give them, but are simply teases when it comes to closing. How should one combat this in the field, without ejecting?
Ok a couple things that you can do. I like to keep a cocky funny vibe, do alot of push-pulls and take aways, if she's having fun with the attention when you do playfull take-aways she'll pull in with IOI's to gain more of your attention. Also playful negs are very helpfull for the same reasons listed above.

Another advantage with these flirty "tease" girls, come due to the fact that they sometimes will "force" thier own IOI's. You can use this to your advantage by making them force more IOI's to remain congruent... it won't take long then before the IOI's go from teasing to completely real.


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1) I'm trying out the dinner and a movie thing, please describe how you proceed with kino escalation during the movie.
Well during the movie, I pretty much just do the whole arm around cuddling thing... then when the movie ends I escelate as normal towards seduction (making out/ key spot touching like the small of the back, side of the neck, behind the ear/ outside shirt boob kino, under shirt, outside pants downstairs... you get the gist of it)


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can you follow this link please?

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Dear Doc,

Ah long time since my last post in your thread. OK here's one:

I'm thinking about re-using the mall exercise you gave me back in November to combat a resurgence of my AA. Any modifications you think I should make to it to make it more effective at this point in time?

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Ah long time since my last post in your thread. OK here's one:

I'm thinking about re-using the mall exercise you gave me back in November to combat a resurgence of my AA. Any modifications you think I should make to it to make it more effective at this point in time?
The most important part of the excersize is to do it all in a rapid fire fashion. Thats why I suggest such high numbers... find yourself one of the busiest area's you can and just go for it... with no time to even think inbetween.

Open/Cut, Open/Cut, Open/Cut

When you do it right you should be able to get 500 opens done in only an hour or 2... remember your not trying to close, or even move into A2 in this excersize.

Part one your just opening, nt even transitioning to anything, this gets you into "the groove" of opening your mouth and letting words come out to strangers.

Then part to you open, then get in 1 compliment and 2 questions, in any order. This will get you used to transitioning. A Compliment is just 1 twist from being a Neg, and with 2-3 questions you can direct a conversation... This gets you past that sometimes akward "What do I do now" phase right after you throw out an opener... it trains you to transition naturally (Which in a full sarge will naturally allow you to hook)

Example of a phase to convo:

PUA: Hi!
Person: Hi...
PUA: Do you have the time?
Person: Sure it's 3:30
PUA: Thanks! Say thats a great watch! Where did you get it?
Person: It was a gift from my Grandmother
PUA: Awesome! Thanks for the time!

Cut!

now in a regular sarge even with that very opener and questions you would have the chance to open all sorts of threads (Watches, Family, Gifts, etc)... but for this excersize we cut, so that we can do this over and over and over and build a new pattern right there that very day!

It's like running a race, this excersize teaches you to get out of the blocks... after we get good at that... then we'll worry about the rest of the race.


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