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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:30 pm 
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This whole thread has moved beyond being childish.
Agreed. It actually started off as very childish when the original poster spelled "skeptical" like a child would........


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If you can earn a fuckload of cash teaching men, then I SURE as shit can. Time to go set up my sales page. Honestly if you're so obsessed with changing lives and self-improvement, then why are you so fucking fat? Take your own advice and lose some weight.


This is such a typical statement of someone who is angry that what he thinks would get him women doesn't.

"Well if he can do it then so can I!" SO WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU!? Seriously man, if you think you could do a better job helping people better their social interactions with women and create a better life for themselves than I do, if you think you can deal with the emotional and physical stress that comes from working 18-20 hour days for 14 days in a row and MAYBE squeezing 8 hour sleep after that, only to go on another 14 day sprint again where you bust your ass, and to keep doing it over and over and over again, to deal with failure, rejection, and have the patience and will power to experience trial and error, if you think you have it in you to deal with criticism from people who just sit there and hate (like yourself) while you are trying to create something for yourself that you are truly passionate about doing... I encourage you to do it. It will add alot of depth and character to your life. Of course, if you we're able to handle all of that rejection and defeat to keep an end result in mind... You probably would have been successful in learning pick up. Instead you gave up. Because you were looking for an "easy fix." The same way that you think that all it takes to start a company (especially of this nature) is a fucking website. You are truly an idiot.

And as far as my weight (LOL) dipshit... I'm 5'10. I weigh 220 pounds. I have 12.5% BF. That is by no means, "fat." Am I big? Fuck yeah I'm big... Because I want to be. I also have a shit ton of knowledge and experience when it comes to body building as well because I used to be 310 pounds with 49% body fat... But the same way I wanted to improve my pick up skills, I also decided that I wanted to transform my body. Was it hard work? Hell yeah it was... You clearly want nothing to do with that "hard work shit" so stick your job at Radio Shack you lazy fuck. Keep making excuses.
Yes I could do a better job. Don't talk like it's hard work, you go out to a bar with men and tell them to approach women and critique what they do... Most bootcamps are charging men upwards of $2000 + for a week. You BEST be working 24/7 for that kind of salary, some men have to carry slates up scaffolding all day to earn half of that and they're happy to be doing it. "OH MY GOD TRIAL AND ERROR SO HARD" yeah you're "busting your ass" by enjoying a night out at a club socializing with people, it's fucking FUN not WORK. That's what most people do AFTER a week of hard work to enjoy themselves, so don't sit there and act like you have it hard.

You can't even cold-read properly you're meant to be experts at that shit: I don't fail with pickup, I don't even fail with women. Nor does the OP.

There's just NO excuse for being fat... Unless that picture is from when you were 49% body fat then you are definitely not 12.5% lol... None of this fairy nonsense where you can't criticize people's weight, none of this "big beautiful woman" shit, no, fat people need to fuck off and get the fuck on a treadmill there's NO excuse unless they have a legitimate DISEASE.

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You wouldn't have a treble chin at 12.5%...

There's barely fuck all "skill" involved. Everyone's always "game" this "skill" that. It's all in your head! You overcomplicate and attach meaningless theories to everything. "Oh my god she said 'hi' back to me! It must be because I angled my left foot towards Jupiter and performed the Lucifer's eye contact routine"... You all need to stop. She either likes the look of you or she doesn't, you can destroy her interest by being an asperger, but you don't need a book to tell you how to have a conversation like a normal human being.

The SKILL is being able to spot cues that a girl wants you to approach her, or make a move on her... The SKILL is being able to find ways to go home with her without her feeling like too much of a slut... Being able to get in with her friends. That's the sort of thing that matters, as if anybody needs material for that.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:08 pm 
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LOL you are so ridiculous dude... It's crazy. Keep sitting in your moms basement listening to Marilyn Manson thinking everyone else has it so easy and feeling sorry for yourself. You have no fucking clue what I go through... Period.

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LOL you are so ridiculous dude... It's crazy. Keep sitting in your moms basement listening to Marilyn Manson thinking everyone else has it so easy and feeling sorry for yourself. You have no fucking clue what I go through... Period.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBHJH0dsEN4

Dude why do you even bother responding? It's not worth it.

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There's just NO excuse for being fat... Unless that picture is from when you were 49% body fat then you are definitely not 12.5% lol... None of this fairy nonsense where you can't criticize people's weight, none of this "big beautiful woman" shit, no, fat people need to fuck off and get the fuck on a treadmill there's NO excuse unless they have a legitimate DISEASE.


You wouldn't have a treble chin at 12.5%...
The fact that you despise people who are overweight and spend a good deal of effort trying to debunk the way other random dudes online might look speaks volumes about your inner game.

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There's just NO excuse for being fat... Unless that picture is from when you were 49% body fat then you are definitely not 12.5% lol... None of this fairy nonsense where you can't criticize people's weight, none of this "big beautiful woman" shit, no, fat people need to fuck off and get the fuck on a treadmill there's NO excuse unless they have a legitimate DISEASE.


You wouldn't have a treble chin at 12.5%...
The fact that you despise people who are overweight and spend a good deal of effort trying to debunk the way other random dudes online might look speaks volumes about your inner game.
Fat people are lazy slobs who can't stop shoving food into their mouth. Lazy slobs who can't be bothered to lose weight, or have no motivation to do so. How can you defend them, you must be a fatty. Every few months they'll be like: "I hate being overweight!"... Then a few months later, they're still fucking FAT. Or "I am going to start a diet!"... 2 days later, diet over, and they're still fucking fat. They have no self-control, no self-discipline, they can't even look after their own body. You're gonna trust somebody like that to give you life advice? Apparently some people do because this fucker's earning thousands of dollars for critiquing men as they approach women, and has the audacity to complain about how hard it is, whilst soldiers are fighting on the front line risking their lives for a fraction of that. I do what this fucker does as work for FUN, and he has the nads to try and tell everybody what hard work it is? Man I feel so sorry for this guy, he has to go and enjoy himself at clubs every night and socialize with women, what hard work, I'd much rather be fighting on the front line or lugging piles of bricks up ladders. It's truly dastardly.

Also I don't give an actual fuck about my "inner game"... What is this Buddhist bollocks? Whilst you were reading Tolle and meditating on Friday night I went home with a girl. What a load of irrelevant shit.

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I didn't bother reading what you wrote, but you should know that you win the internet argument bro. Congrats.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:22 pm 
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That Majikal Method guy is such a failure. Of course your girl makes more money than you who is gonna fall for your PUA shit when you have the sex appeal of a runescape member? As for my spelling this is how skeptical is spelled in my native language this is the only thing you might have ever proven me wrong about and you still had to be a dick about it. You are so brainwashed by PUA that you refer to proving you've had some sort of success with women as "qualifying yourself." I knew the top PUA gurus were full of shit but I had no idea how pathetic the smaller PUA buisnesses were. I acually feel bad for you picturing the fat high school kid you were who probably found PUA by googling "how can I get girls" after years of bullying.

Back to the original topic which is: PUA's are joke when it comes to having actual casual sex with actual hotties and high LMS men shit on them. Prove me wrong and I'll admit I was wrong, and if you believe you are "qualifying yourself" seek mental help. I'll actually be glad to be proven wrong and unlike you I have an open mind but the reality of the field proves me everyday that you have a looks league(mine is fortunatly way higher than Majikal Method's thanfully I did not have to cling on to PUA to save my self-esteem) and that's pretty depressing when you used to believe everything was possible in pickup.

Women are just as shallow as we are. Why would it be any different? I don't blame them for following their natural instincts.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:49 pm 
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I didn't bother reading what you wrote, but you should know that you win the internet argument bro. Congrats.
You read it, you just can't refute it. I'm also going to do you a favour:

please-critique-preston-s-game-log-vt164290.html

I will critique what you're doing, here's my critique:
UNNECCESSARY SHIT!

Look how long you spoke to her without trying to set up a date. Why are you beating around the bush so much? If she's interested you could have gone for a meetup after one or two conversations. This is what PUA does to you. You think this is "phone game" or something and that you're building attraction. You're not doing anything but wasting time when you could have already dated her by now.

You're also meeting women ONLINE on OkCupid. They are all crazy. Every average-and-above looking woman has THOUSANDS of options from men in her day-to-day life. If she is forced to turn to online dating, that's a 100% confirmation that she's either truly repulsive, she's legitimately fucking crazy or has insane standards. Those are the only 3 options.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:58 pm 
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You read it, you just can't refute it. I'm also going to do you a favour:

please-critique-preston-s-game-log-vt164290.html

I will critique what you're doing, here's my critique:
UNNECCESSARY SHIT!

Look how long you spoke to her without trying to set up a date. Why are you beating around the bush so much? If she's interested you could have gone for a meetup after one or two conversations. This is what PUA does to you. You think this is "phone game" or something and that you're building attraction. You're not doing anything but wasting time when you could have already dated her by now.

You're also meeting women ONLINE on OkCupid. They are all crazy. Every average-and-above looking woman has THOUSANDS of options from men in her day-to-day life. If she is forced to turn to online dating, that's a 100% confirmation that she's either truly repulsive, she's legitimately fucking crazy or has insane standards. Those are the only 3 options.
Spot on. Here's how I deal with the numbers I get at the club: I invite the girls over to my place straight away after a couple text messages, like Paul Janka who I believe to be legit as a slayer, does. The only real rule is no meeting outside the sex location. I get flaked a lot but when they show up they know what's up. The result would have been the same anyway. I just skip the bullshit. Is she attracted to my face? If yes she will show up and pull her panties. If not I have saved a night of unnecessary hassle and I get a full night of sleep.

There are some legit hotties on online dating sites. But they are only there to see how much attention and validation they get or because they are just curious. They sometimes message back but they never show up. I have experienced that and I know a few hotties who use those sites they never bang anyone using this. Only women with a low dating market value are really looking for some action online. I have fucked a few of them and they were mostly ugly, but definitly a lot less than the feminist Jeffy Allen met for a date on okcupid.


I will also add that online dating is 100% numbers game and 100% about looks. In a club some other things come into play but online dating is only about your pictures. On puahate we have made numerous experiments with male models and average guys using the same opening message and they never fail to prove us right.

A funny exemple: http://postimg.org/image/d2qfnk5n9/


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There's just NO excuse for being fat... Unless that picture is from when you were 49% body fat then you are definitely not 12.5% lol... None of this fairy nonsense where you can't criticize people's weight, none of this "big beautiful woman" shit, no, fat people need to fuck off and get the fuck on a treadmill there's NO excuse unless they have a legitimate DISEASE.


You wouldn't have a treble chin at 12.5%...
The fact that you despise people who are overweight and spend a good deal of effort trying to debunk the way other random dudes online might look speaks volumes about your inner game.
Fat people are lazy slobs who can't stop shoving food into their mouth. Lazy slobs who can't be bothered to lose weight, or have no motivation to do so. How can you defend them, you must be a fatty. Every few months they'll be like: "I hate being overweight!"... Then a few months later, they're still fucking FAT. Or "I am going to start a diet!"... 2 days later, diet over, and they're still fucking fat. They have no self-control, no self-discipline, they can't even look after their own body. You're gonna trust somebody like that to give you life advice? Apparently some people do because this fucker's earning thousands of dollars for critiquing men as they approach women, and has the audacity to complain about how hard it is, whilst soldiers are fighting on the front line risking their lives for a fraction of that. I do what this fucker does as work for FUN, and he has the nads to try and tell everybody what hard work it is? Man I feel so sorry for this guy, he has to go and enjoy himself at clubs every night and socialize with women, what hard work, I'd much rather be fighting on the front line or lugging piles of bricks up ladders. It's truly dastardly.

Also I don't give an actual fuck about my "inner game"... What is this Buddhist bollocks? Whilst you were reading Tolle and meditating on Friday night I went home with a girl. What a load of irrelevant shit.

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Again man, you have no idea what it takes because you think everyone else has it so easy. Keep feeling sorry for yourself.Again, you don't know me. You don't know what I've been through and what I go through nor are you worth the time telling you my life story. So quit talking about me when you are nothing greater than a piece of dog shit. Simple.

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I'm not one to post shirtless pictures of myself on websites... however, maybe now you will shut the fuck up about how "fat" I am and "can't take care of myself." My guess is you are some skinny twerp who can't put an ounce of muscle on his body. I'm a grown ass man who is nowhere near "lazy" and you are clearly a child who dwells in his parents basement playing world of warcraft while looking for ways to make yourself feel better. You will never make anything of yourself besides "someone who hauls bricks up a ladder" because YOU HAVE NO PEOPLE SKILLS. People who do jobs like that lack social skills beyond a fucking monkey... DER! CARRY BRICKS! CAUSE THAT'S ALL I'M GOOD FOR! DER! Get bent clown. Maybe if you took the time to develop your social skills, you would be something more than a dirty construction worker or a door man at some two bit club complaining about how women all think you are unattractive. It's not your looks that they are rejecting.... It's your LAME PERSONALITY.

I started with body building before I started pick up... and that didn't get me anything as far as women... Once I took the time to develop my personality as someone who has charm and charisma, that did. Learning pick up is what helped me develop a great personality. And a great personality is what gets me women.


Get off this forum and get off my dick dude... Make room for your girlfriend... if you can ever even get one with your wack ass personality. I'm tired (as well I think everyone else is) of getting emails about this garbage post so enough is enough. Come back when you have something useful to say.... Actually, don't come back at all.


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You read it, you just can't refute it. I'm also going to do you a favour:

please-critique-preston-s-game-log-vt164290.html

I will critique what you're doing, here's my critique:
UNNECCESSARY SHIT!

Look how long you spoke to her without trying to set up a date. Why are you beating around the bush so much? If she's interested you could have gone for a meetup after one or two conversations. This is what PUA does to you. You think this is "phone game" or something and that you're building attraction. You're not doing anything but wasting time when you could have already dated her by now.

You're also meeting women ONLINE on OkCupid. They are all crazy. Every average-and-above looking woman has THOUSANDS of options from men in her day-to-day life. If she is forced to turn to online dating, that's a 100% confirmation that she's either truly repulsive, she's legitimately fucking crazy or has insane standards. Those are the only 3 options.
Spot on. Here's how I deal with the numbers I get at the club: I invite the girls over to my place straight away after a couple text messages. The only real rule is no meeting outside the sex location. I get flaked a lot but when they show up they know what's up. The result would have been the same anyway. I just skip the bullshit.
Just a quick thing, I've found sometimes that even women who are into you will REFUSE to straight up meet at your place or hers, and request that you meet them somewhere else first. It's a legit thing that happens, so I'll usually meet them after their shift at work (hint: they will want to go home after work) or at a local pub and have like, 2 drinks and mindless chatter before going home with them (hint 2: I found women much more open to having you go home with THEM than vice versa, assuming she doesn't live with parents, and even then). Much better that way. You've probably thrown away a few opportunities you thought you didn't have.

Also some women might be into you but set on "dating" and all of this bollocks. Fuck that. I mean if she's a bitch to people and not a very nice person you can always try a counter-offer if she rejects (in case she is interested but scared of the pump-n-dump) and offer something more "date"ish, then screw her after one or two "dates". I always try that, gotta exhaust all your options. Throw everything at her and if she rejects it all delete all contact forever she's a cunt.

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WAPFT also as known as Whorespornftw of puahate is lying and is full of bullshit. If he really did study everything about Pick - up artistry then he would have learned that "MORE IMPORTANT THAN LOOKS IS HOW YOU MAKE A GIRL FEEL" .

A real pua will be able to spot your bullshit a mile away. You are bullshitting about about studying everything about pick - up. Ohh puleeezz, your knowledge don't even come close.
You claim to have complete and perfect knowledge about PUA and yet you say that you failed in PU? what gives man?

Even though women instinctively want superior/high quality/valuable men, there are loopholes and ways to circumvent it. But the fact that he is completely unaware of these PUA basics exposes his cluelessness about PUA knowledge.

His lacked of understanding about the importance of How you make a girl FEEL speaks volumes of his naivety and lack of experience. He may have gotten sex a few times and became cocky but that is nothing compared to the thousands of relationships we had with women.

1. PUAhaters are extreme chumps. They are fucking wimps man. The problem most puahaters is that they rely on spotting interest cues before taking action. Being passive encapsulates the perfect description of PUAhating wussies.

Pick - up artist create interest and attraction instead of waiting for it to happen.


There are hybrids though, TEE- HEE! Nothing absolute.


2. The puahating retards robotically follow some repetitive LMS formulas on how to get sex.
PUAhaters have a ham fisted, one size fit all method on how to get sex with women so they repeatedly FAIL. As you see, PUAhaters make thousands of threads and post inside an INCEL forum called "PUAhate forum"


3. They based their generalizations on very narrow and limited field i.e. clubs/bars, online dating websites.
It's akin to watching gold fishes in an aquarium and then generalizing that the world is colored orange. It is a logical error. Making a generalization and conclusion out of specific instances(bars/clubs,online).

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I don't pretend to be a Master PUA yet I have much hotter girls to bang or see for a date, how is this possible? :?


Any girl will have sex for all sorts of reasons and sometimes for no reason. Anyone can get laid. The question is, "Are you attracting the right type of girls?"

I could pay a hot prostitute to get laid.
I could lie about being rich and scam some gold diggers for sex.
I can have sex with a hot sexy poverty stricken girls.
I could have sex with drunk party girl bar sluts.

The question is, are you attracting the right type of women?

as what I said earlier -- "MORE IMPORTANT THAN ATTRACTING GIRLS IS ATTRACTING THE RIGHT TYPE OF WOMEN."

PUAhate logic = a whale is mammal, a whale ives in the sea, therefore all that lives in sea are mammals.


All of your arguments are invalid because it is based on a false premise(a straw man) and a retarded generalization that all pick - up artist go to clubs and bars. Not all of us go to clubs and bars.


PUAhaters are below mediocrity. PUAhaters are beyond FAIL.

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I'm not one to post shirtless pictures of myself on websites... however, maybe now you will shut the fuck up about how "fat" I am and "can't take care of myself." My guess is you are some skinny twerp who can't put an ounce of muscle on his body. I'm a grown ass man who is nowhere near "lazy" and you are clearly a child who dwells in his parents basement playing world of warcraft while looking for ways to make yourself feel better. You will never make anything of yourself besides "someone who hauls bricks up a ladder" because YOU HAVE NO PEOPLE SKILLS. People who do jobs like that lack social skills beyond a fucking monkey... DER! CARRY BRICKS! CAUSE THAT'S ALL I'M GOOD FOR! DER! Get bent clown. Maybe if you took the time to develop your social skills, you would be something more than a dirty construction worker or a door man at some two bit club complaining about how women all think you are unattractive. It's not your looks that they are rejecting.... It's your LAME PERSONALITY.
I cant see your picture I'm really looking forward to a good laugh.

You are the one who should be fucking off this thread since you promised you'd be gone you little attention whore.

As for doormen and construction workers(which I am not but they are people I respect) being "monkeys" you are confirming how arrogant and unexposed to the real world you are. I'm just a doorman(on weekends only)because it"s the best way to meet a lot of attractive young women and it gives you a massive edge in nightclubs. Most of you would fancy themselves as master pua's if you had my success yet I know I am nothing, I am aware of where I stand because I havent burried my head in the sand like you. World-class soccer players sometimes go to my club and I promise this is worth the watch, this is the reality check PUA's need.

You are in no position to look down on blue collar workers especially with that pathetic job of yours. You are a salesman and a fraud. Quit posting this is so embarassing and no longer funny like your first posts used to be. You are the perfect ambassador of the PUA industry. No real-life experience apart from getting bullied due to your looks and yet lecturing everyone about the real world.


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Again man, you have no idea what it takes because you think everyone else has it so easy. Keep feeling sorry for yourself.Again, you don't know me. You don't know what I've been through and what I go through nor are you worth the time telling you my life story. So quit talking about me when you are nothing greater than a piece of dog shit. Simple.

I'm not one to post shirtless pictures of myself on websites... however, maybe now you will shut the fuck up about how "fat" I am and "can't take care of myself." My guess is you are some skinny twerp who can't put an ounce of muscle on his body. I'm a grown ass man who is nowhere near "lazy" and you are clearly a child who dwells in his parents basement playing world of warcraft while looking for ways to make yourself feel better. You will never make anything of yourself besides "someone who hauls bricks up a ladder" because YOU HAVE NO PEOPLE SKILLS. People who do jobs like that lack social skills beyond a fucking monkey... DER! CARRY BRICKS! CAUSE THAT'S ALL I'M GOOD FOR! DER! Get bent clown. Maybe if you took the time to develop your social skills, you would be something more than a dirty construction worker or a door man at some two bit club complaining about how women all think you are unattractive. It's not your looks that they are rejecting.... It's your LAME PERSONALITY.

I started with body building before I started pick up... and that didn't get me anything as far as women... Once I took the time to develop my personality as someone who has charm and charisma, that did. Learning pick up is what helped me develop a great personality. And a great personality is what gets me women.


Get off this forum and get off my dick dude... Make room for your girlfriend... if you can ever even get one with your wack ass personality. I'm tired (as well I think everyone else is) of getting emails about this garbage post so enough is enough. Come back when you have something useful to say.... Actually, don't come back at all.
Oh look, not only does he have the physique of Eric Cartman but also the personality of him too.
"I'M NOT FAT! I'M BIG BONED!"

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Oh my God going to clubs is so hard and stressful, wah I got rejected, feel sorry for me guys it's so difficult! Oooh no! ANXIETY! This is far scarier than defusing mines in Iraq! All this stress of going out, having fun and socializing with people! What a difficult life! "Massive action" is so difficult guys, it means I have to go out partying for a whole week straight, holy shit! PARTYING! It's not like normal people PAY to do this when they go for holidays in Ibiza when I get a salary out of it. POOR ME. It's so difficult to dedicate myself to fucking PARTYING EVERY WEEK, what a treacherous task.

Get to fuckin' work you lazy fatty, like the rest of the world has to, instead of poncing off of nerds who are desperate to score and think you can help them. Plus I'm sure running up a few ladders would do you good, it would definitely help you lose weight.

I mean, my God, you're so touchy, you're surely scaring off potential clients who were under the false impression that you've got your shit together and are secure in yourself, not the type of guy to lash out aggressively when others criticize you. But no, in reality you've never improved past the days of kids chanting "who ate all the pies" at you on the playground in school. Clearly the only "game" you've got is World of Fuckin' Warcraft. Smh...

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