What women say who they want and who they actually fuck are two different things.

Never take pick up advice from women. They're clueless.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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I truly believe that most guys who are not on PUA forums get laid more than a lot of the ones on it. The whole thing becomes a validation contest with users like Skills360 for example desperately wanting others to like them and prove their superiority while not actually sarging.

PUAs as you call them focus too much on theory and just try to come up with new gimmicks to get a lay while the naturals just do it because they feel like doing it. Naturals don't care how the world is looking at them, they get rejected they play it off, if they don't get the number that night then whatever life goes on. We want what we can't have, when you take attention away from a girl and make her feel like she isn't that important, you get her interest. Naturals can do this better because they don't even know they are doing this, PUAs actively do this which comes off as try hard. Most so called PUAs and PUA students put the pussy on the pedestal even though they advocate against it.

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I just come on here these days to give advice and read interesting threads. Gone are the days when I came to seek advice and validation.

And here come the personal attacks again. Skills, along with Magikal, warped mindless and Heywood Jablowme give the best advice on this forum.
Personally? My game (for the sake of argument (and your own reassurance), assume that I'm a virgin and I'm so bad that i've never gotten laid), is almost completely natural. I don't use canned material, routines, NLP, or any of that bullshit. It's what works best for me. What you don't understand, is that a good PUA and a natural are the same thing in every way except in the path they took to what they are now. Once a person picks up PUA and practices it enough, it becomes ingrained in him, and the behavior becomes completely natural, and they give it no thought, and the difference between a PUA student and a PUA natural disappears. Do you think babies are born with the skillset to be "naturals" and slay pussy like champs straight out of the womb? No. Some kids are born more social and grow in an environment that allows them to socialize and gain experience at a young age, which makes them seem "natural". But a "natural" seducer is no more natural than a natural bodybuilder. You don't crawl out of the womb looking like Schwarzenegger. It's all about experience, and the innate social skills of a person. Most so "called PUAs" and PUA students don't practice what they preach, and spend their time reading self help books instead of actually going out and getting experience. A good number of them are also pretty obviously suffering from an Autism Spectrum Disorder, and run to PUA thinking that it will solve their problems with women.

Majikal has legendary advice but ya enough for the personal attacks.

I agree with you for once. A lot of these PUA guys are giving their students gimmicks and not legit advice. They are going to their students and saying "just approach her!" when the student is overweight, poor style, and has bad hygiene. Also what is with the peacocking nonsense. If these PUAs would take the time to tell students things like lose some weight and then come back and max out what you have, you will see students having better results. My results did not come when I was reading theories on this forum and books, they came when I hit the gym and started paying close attention to my style and grooming.

Selling students on a delusion that looks mean nothing is dangerous. Now when I say looks I don't mean genetics like height and jawlines, I mean appearances and style.

Yet I do disagree on one thing, as men we are born to be players and have sex with as many women as possible. Unfortunately due to how society shapes us, we don't get the opportunity to truly grow into what we were meant to be. As a result, you get the creation of the AFC, the beta male, whatever you want to call it (the opposite of men like me, Tyler from RSD, Don Draper, etc.).

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I just come on here these days to give advice and read interesting threads. Gone are the days when I came to seek advice and validation.

Yeah right. Alan Greenspan posts on forums and maintains a blog. He must be a keyboard jockey in economics.

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Approach. Open. Escalate. Isolate

Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

general-questions/topic137931.html

Are you still mad cause of me exposing your constant trolling... Paramount you focus too much on limiting beliefs and theory, why don't you worry about your own problems.... Show me a post were i was looking for validation?(other than me being sarcastic for fun in the chat, playing a character) or me desperately looking for other to like me? talking about validation, let me show you here, were you are bragging about your 10 famous lays...

By Mr. Paramount, by the way, congratulation on getting just banned from sedfast, please add to your resume:

P.S. I would advise for the sake of the forum to ignore me, and not bring me up on discussions, other wise i am gonna have to fight back, and make you look like a tool. I promised one of the mods. That i would lay of your back... But hey whatever makes you happy, if you want to go at it, lets go!

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Oh you promised them? But here you are talking shit

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Expose? Really? Because you pulled up some BS accounts on a website with stories related to Indians and interracial dating you "exposed" me? No I am not even worried about that BS, just you throwing my name around on all threads and what about this "fight"?

This isn't Giants vs Patriots or something serious, this is a fucking internet forum where we come to share knowledge and our life experiences. Not a place for you to get your little ego boost off of sharing bullshit advice on your blog by linking people to it on almost every post you make.

Go at what? I am going to be living my life while you are still here begging for validation and "exposing" people on an internet forum that you don't even know. But hey, have your little rant, whatever helps you sleep at night.

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This is a crazy thread however I feel the need to point something out.

The main point of Warped_Mindless thread was completely missed. Whilst many will have conflicting views of what works for them, Warped_Mindless thread clearly states "The three reasons most "puas" suck!", the key word being PUA.

As most "PUAs" desires are purely for sex (with some exceptions), the idea that Tiffany put acroass of girls needing a "quality man" is irrelevant. If you turn a woman on, she will get horny and despite if your "quality" or not, you will most likely get laid (as long as you're able to lead her home).

I feel the context of Tiffany's posts, are heavily influenced by the desire to settle down/find marriage material. Saying that, experienced men will know, that once you've have sex with a woman, it's far easier to set up a partnership, exclusive realtionship, fuck buddies, girlfriend/boyfriend from it.

EDIT:

I would like to also point out despite the "qualities" you claim to need, when you get the girl to a close, she WILL be turned on & horny. So, I guess it's your pick, gain these "qualities" that ultimately lead to turning her on, or concentrate on turning her on in the first place to save yourself the time. Either way, you get laid.

You know what, you are so stupid sometimes.

Do you even read?

I said, "Tendency" - refers to the probability to do certain things.

I also said, there are ways to circumvent the woman's tendency to want/desire "QUALITY" men.
There are loopholes and vulnerabilities.

and what you've mentioned is a tactic or should I say a loophole. A way to circumvent.

your words is a false as your deeds.

Your critic against me is as senseless as your hate against PUA's.



Jesus fucking christ!

Will you ever stop deceiving and misleading people?

When will your scamming ever end?

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Call me stupid, but I have no idea who or what Tiffany just responded to.

calm down @zbcmc1 - your jimmies rustled. There is no need to get upset.

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it is directed @deducible
@aaron sleazy
@wapmindless,

and any anti - pua, in general.

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Jimmies rustled?

WTF is the misc doing here!?

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I just come on here these days to give advice and read interesting threads. Gone are the days when I came to seek advice and validation.

She's mirin, brah.