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This thread is getting a bit creepy... Maybe we can move past the war of personality cults to one "guru" or another and just talk about what works and what doesn't?
I know, jeez Tiffany, please go outside and get some fresh air, seriously!
Let's be respectful to Warped and try to stay on topic, or you're gonna end up getting this thread locked.
I posted my "Open Letter" and got my rocks off, now I'm done with the issue. Done deal, so I'm
moving on.
Skills already gave you a separate thread to talk about your other concerns, so why not just use that?
In the interest of continuing the discussion on Day Game Cold Approaches being useless, I'm a little torn on this subject.
I know a guy through work who gets crazy pussy; he's way better looking than I am, no homo; built up, etc., but his hook ups are all social circle. He doesn't even live in the city center where we work; he lives an hour out in MD.
The other Friday night, we chilled outside of work for the first time, I met the ton of friends he's got in the area, and the following Monday he commented, "man, you'll get out there and talk to some girls! (surprised )" I figured not being the best looking guy out there, and not having the best game, but still willing to go up and talk to girls is better than nothing.
Come to learn he doesn't talk to girls he doesn't know, ever, says he's shy. A guy we hung out with said, "Yeah, he's afraid to."
We were talking about day approaches and the school of thought that day approaches are better because "their guard is down, and they're way more receptive to a guy walking up and getting to know them".
To be honest, I'm really not sure about that.
Oh I'll grant the point, by far, girls are approached less, if at all, during the day. This could be because it seems even more awkward and inappropriate than approaching in bars at night...?.. Maybe guys are all scared shitless to talk to girls during the day. On a heavy night, a reasonable looking girl might have 50 guys walk up and approach her.
But why are guys so much more scared during the day? Is there just common knowledge that it's less effective or have so many just been too balless to bother trying?
I read that confession of that guy who did 5,000 cold day approaches and didn't even get one date out of the deal.
I'm not 100% sure that's even true, or a fabrication. Depending on how he approached, ( creepy seeming, etc.) and especially if he wasn't a great looking guy, didnt seem positive or confident, it's plausible that he did pretty poorly.
I'm know what stats teaches us about a sample of one, but I was out walking down the street to another building one day during business hours, and find myself walking alongside this really attractive, blonde, well dressed girl in her mid 20's, wearing flip-flops.
"I wish I could wear flip-flops to work." I said.
She said, "I know, but I can't walk very far in heels."
I replied with, "really..." or "yeah..." or something like that. I didn't have much to say beyond that.
There was a pause of about a second and she let out this abrupt, quick, loud hyena laugh, like the kind of laugh a girl lets out when something's really awkward and she's creeped the fuck out. I realized she couldn't get away from me because we were both walking in the same direction on the sidewalk. She continued walking pretty fast like she was anyway and ended up way ahead of me. I could've misread this though, anyone have any experience with this kind of reaction?
Come to think of it, I was in the elevator one Friday afternoon leaving work and was in it with one pretty attractive girl. I asked her how's it going?
She said, "Great! It's a Friday afternoon!"
I said, "Yeah, couldn't get any better."
She said, "I even got here early so I got a great parking spot right up front so I'm getting right outta here." (or something like that)
I kind of teasingly (I thought) said, "I wouldn't get here early on a Friday just to get good parking."
Her expression went from one that was positive in some way (I'm not sure, perplexed that a guy was talking to her during the day, cheerful, whatever) to one that was clearly turned off.
She had some kind of nonchalant reply and when we got out of the elevator, she walked off to the parking deck so fast like there was a rocket on her ass.
I've even heard accounts of guys simply sitting down on an empty couch at a Starbucks, across the coffee table from a girl, without even saying a word to the girl, and the girl just fumbling to get her stuff together quickly and rushing off just a moment later.
Again, I'm a little torn on day game.
Going out to do scheduled day game, like "Hey dude, meet us at the food court at such and such mall at 2:00; we're gonna do some day game" does seem kind of retarded to me.
I would much rather live my life, and run into the girls I run into during the day, who may be more receptive than scheduled day game sessions.
First, i don't believe in Social Circle(unless you join like a joga class or a salsa class that would be social circle strangers) , Cold approach pick up(gaming strangers) is the name of the game. The 2 girls in the sample you open situationally right, and they were either not interested or nor sexually available, you do not need to get but hurt about 2 rejections, but you did not mention anything about intend(i am sexually interested in you are you with me or not) in other words showing that you are interested man to woman in the subcommunication...
I think sleazy point and i totally agree with it, is the same shit i say in the chat, to take 2 hours of your day to go to the streets to sarge, that for me is silly.... I do day game as i go about my day. But hey, tons of people have success doing day game.
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To increase your odds, you could therefore do something with your time you really enjoy. Surely, there is something that’s more compelling than getting rejected by one girl after another in streets and shopping malls.
^ i do club game cause i enjoy dancing and getting in shape but i only enjoy twice a week, more than that it is kind of annoying. Less than that and i miss it.
Now i also do cold approach pick up, but is totally different of the 5,0000 approaches, cause my cold approach is really kind of a warm approach due to my experience to see what girls is giving me, which is super subtle approach invites(it is so subtle that if you are with me, you would say i did not see anything), or by me knowing through body language that she is sexually available.
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as you get more experience in general, your ratio will usually go up a lot. This is not because you get “better at game” but because you learn to read signals better, and focus on girls who are potentially receptive. Thus, you skip all the questionable cold approaches. This is the truth behind cold approaches, and, to take a page out of the marketing book of PUAs, this is indeed “one of the truths PUAs don’t want you to know.”
The reason why you may now think that your game is decent and that you “convert x percent of your cold approaches” is just that you can’t yet read signals properly and approach indiscriminately. While you “run the same game” on every girl, you just happen to occasionally bump into one that just likes you. Since you are more concerned with your game than her reaction to your presence, you may miss that she’s been glancing over three times already. Being blind to the obvious, you think that “game” got you the girl. However, with a more perceptive eye, you’d have to do a fraction of the approaches, and will have a much better turnout.
All of this doesn’t mean that you’ll now suddenly get every girl, but by focussing on girls you have something in common with and who are potentially interested, you’ll do so much better. Heck, maybe pickup will even start to become fun for you, and stop being a source of constant frustration. It’s the warm approaches that eventually get you the girls.
Another thing to do is to force approach invites from the woman(many different ways to do this, for example just dancing at proximity but not with her, or just making eye contact on day game etc...) or i would even open totally cold approach with no approach invites or body language reads, just to get a reaction, if nothing is there i eject as fast as possible.... Sleazy, i think is talking about dudes that open and there is nothing there an the woman is not interested or sexually available, and they do not get the hints, and she just gives the number out of politeness...
Here is one of my fb what she is saying on my point..
teacher: Hey my friend you were correct when you told me about creepers cause I meet 2 last night... The first one I meet was some guy in the club he seemed nice at 9:15 PM
teacher: first but then was trying to get me to go home with him and told me he wouldn't try anything just wanted to hold me (yeah right )lol... And if I said no he 9:15 PM
teacher: won't talk to me anymore so then I said bye but he didn't give up cause he followed me around all night and even text me today .. Don't know why I gave him my 9:15 PM
teacher: number ... The second one was even more strange I started talking to him on Pof last week and meet him after the club outside for a few he was really strange 9:15 PM
teacher: and made me a little nervous and I don't get nervous much when meeting someone ... He just kept telling me how beautiful I was and wanted to know if I wanted 9:15 PM
teacher: to go on a cruise with him and if that wasn't strange enough he told me that he was going to be home alone today all alone and told me not to feel bad for him 9:15 PM
teacher: he would just really like to see me and yes he called me today lol... I'm not talking to guys when I go out next time I am going to just walk away lol LOCOS 9:15 PM
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