I posted about the same problem before, but I didn't make it clear, and so this time starting from scratch hoping someone can understand my situation and tell me I'm wrong about having hope or not. It's going to be a long post, but I really hope I can make it clear and not waste any ones time.

3 years ago, I was so bad at even approaching women, I was literally at the verge of giving up on life. Then years went by and I learnt from the pua's and on this forum. It got to a point where I was meeting, approaching and closing on so many women, I had completely forgotten about my academic life. When I realised it wasn't to late, I started to focus on my studies once again and began to excel at my academic life.

One day, in university I met this girl....talking to her getting to know her, I began to try and game, the only thing I could remember was to become unobtainable and get her to like me....so I did that....I also realised with this girl It will be slow, very slow as she has no experience with relationships, her last boyfriend was 3 years ago who fucked her over and she has been scared ever since. Gradually, she began liking me, I picked up the hints and decided it was time to man the fuck up and tell her straight....and so I did.

We came back from uni and we were sat on my bed, just the two of us, and she says to me "You look like you have been wanting to tell me something for a while, tell me now" I thought ot myself this is the best opportunity, and as soon as I was about to say, we were interrupted by a friend who came into the room, he was crying about his break up, so we began comforting him.

Next day we went out clubbing, and she was nagging me to tell her what I was going to say the day before, so I grabbed her hand and took her to a relaxed environment, put my arm around her and told her everything. She started to laugh and looked at me and said she was so confused, because I barley talked to her and when she asked me things like If I miss her over the holidays or just general questions to see If I was interested, I always replied in a harsh manner, so she thought I disliked her and also she said I barley gave her any attention. She hugged me and began nibbling on my neck.....at this point I should have kissed her, but I failed my manliness and asked her If we should go outside in a ore quite area.....she got up holding hands with me and said she had to go to the toilet, she was in there for an hour....she came out and started to give me the cold shoulder......I know she reported every minute to her best friend...this I am 100% sure about.

Earlier that night, we were in a different club, she was all touchy with me....and I went up on the podium and these girls started to grind on me....I continued dancing like it was normal, she looks at me.....and goes to the toilet for an hour....comes out fairly sad and giving me the cold shoulder, at this point I got her to act normal with me again.

Back to where I was, so she gave me the cold shoulder, we came back to mine, the 3 of us and watched a movie and they crashed at mine for the night. After she went home, I asked her If we could meet and talk about this properly, so she came to uni the next day and I sat her down and made my feelings very clear, looked into her eyes and went to kiss her, she pushed me away and said the legendary line "I only like you as a friend" I laughed, sat down and asked her why she sent me mixed signals if she was going to say this to me in the end anyway.....she didn't know what to say. she made a huge mistake at this point. She went to the "toilet" I'm sure now that shes talking to her friend again, when she came back out I told her to go home and get her work finished and so she did. when I left uni she was still sat outside on the phone.....probably to her friend again and her face looked like she was about to cry, I saw her, she didn't see me. I pretended to be all happy because I text her saying its fine "I'm sure I can get over you easily and we can be friends again" she saw me and I didn't look back at her.

Of course I have been in pain ever since. I ended up deleting her of face book, her number everything. On my birthday I re-added her on face-book and she wished me happy birthday and said, its been painful for her because I was ignoring her. I retardely said to this, "I don't think I can continue acting like nothing has happened, I f I want to before friends with you you will hear from me over summer" To this she said nothing. 1 week later we 3 went out again, came back to mine again, I told her every-thing's fine we can be friends again as painful as it was to say it I couldn't stand the fact that I wont see her again, she also heard from my friend about a chick I gamed one week after this incident.....and she hasn't spoke to me after that. I'm guessing her friend she's been asking advice from has been telling her, I'm just playing games with her and that thing with this other girl now confirms it.

Now that's everything, from scratch, I am so crazy about this girl and I know I can move on, but I want her, I really do, I haven't clicked with someone in such a long time, so yeah now Im in my 4 month holidays, I will be in uni in September.... what's the next step? I know..I know its all fucked up but hey I will game other girls at the same time, but...she's the holy grail for me! so UNLOAD ON ME.

Make a movie. When you like a girl don't verbalize it. Act on it. That's the mistake you made, so learn from it. I know you thought that if you liked a girl you go and sit down with her and tell her how you feel. That's what AFC's and noobs who get friendzoned do.

So what's the lesson learned ?

I don't think you will ever have the balls to move on this girl, you seem to like the crying better.

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Just move on. Telling her you can be friends when you really cannot is dishonest. Either cut off all contact and see other girls and maybe come back and try to be friends or keep beating a dead horse.




Mr. A

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Girls are fucking retarded. The best man and the man who gets to fuck her are not always the same person. Dude, you'll probably go off to Uni and meet another hot ass fucking bitch, or 20, or maybe the "love of your life" and this time you won't be posting about it on this forum because YOU WON'T FUCK UP, due to the lessons you've learned from this. That's right, this is a learning experience. My advice would be, change your wardrobe, dress nicer, go to the gym, work on improving yourself, find a new hobby, be a badass! ... Naturally your confidence will improve as well. That's how it works! Do all of this and who fucking knows what will happen? Maybe you'll be walking in the mall with your new banging ass girlfriend and run into your old oneitis by chance. And she'll look at you and say, "holy fucking shit, is that ____ ? Look at him! Goddamnit, now I wish I could be that bitch that he's fucking! Fuck, I fucked up bad!"
Bingo. Time does wonders. Be patient. Trust me. I'm living proof. Best of luck to you man!

To be honest, while I was typing that massive movie script, I was feeling better with every sentence, and these harsh comments....they just make me feel better, no sarcasm.

Even then, pua is one thing, looking for love is another, sex isnt a big thing for me, atall....everyone is different.

Good then, but she flaked cause you didnt (try to) nail her.

Indeed, but...what I really want to know is.....I wasn't nice to her...barley talked to her. But everynow and then she got a compliment...then why did she friend-zone me? she said she liked me aswell but she wasn't ready for a relationship, classic excuses.

because you were too much of a wuss.

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