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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:33 am 
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So here's my issue: lately I been doing online game cause I don't hv time to go out, and I noticed I been having this BIG problem - and it's seriously getting in the way of my game and stopping my sets.

I qualify well, I build comfort well, I kino well, I qualify well but what stops me from getting to these points is TRANSITIONING.

The convo is up, she responds or makes eye contact with me but then I open my mouth talk about something stupid and ruin it.

I usually open with "​I just stumbled onto your profile/seen you walk by and thought you were adorable and wanted to see if you had the personality to back it up?" Ok, good. HERE IS WHERE I TOTALLY MESS UP.

I guess I'm not building attraction enough. Can an experienced Pua help me out here. Cause I know most guys just say, "What do u do for work?" Etc. I don't want to be most guys. I'm sure you guys get my problem please help me out WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 4:50 am 
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Now, im not an "experienced pua" but I have been in the game for 3 years.(not necessarily this forum,as I am new). I thought it couldn't hurt to suggest this. I find a lot of success with playing truth (basically truth or dare without the dare). This works like a charm because you can escalate to topics like sex and masturbation while staying in context. Note: this works best when there is some level of reciprocation, so ill leave you to judge.

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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2013 6:24 pm 
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I mean maybe that would work well with a Day 2 routine or something but I don't think that would work well with saying that immediately after talking to someone. I need some really good strategy.

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PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:26 am 
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So where do you mess up? Right after they respond and you don't know how to make transition to something else? Okay since you mention indirect game works best for you then you have to adapt a frame that you're just checking her out and she hasn't won you over yet. As if you just messaged her out of curiosity (which is bullshit with online dating because everyone is on there for one reason, so direct game would work best), but such thing would work in day game.

Since the information you gave is very little. All I can say is pay more attention to what they respond with and use those info to make transition. Play up the conversation with more push and pull, humor is also great for indirect game since you can insert lot of sexual innuendos. Worst case scenario if you don't have anything to say, whatever they respond with, just ask "Why?".

Also the opener is a bit generic, try to insert a name (if she has it on her profile) or a specific details of her. It makes it more personal and genuine. You can still copy and paste it to 50 other girls, just add an extra unique line for each one of them.
EX: ​I just stumbled onto your profile/seen you walk by and can't help but notice [insert their quality]. I had to say hi and wanted to see if you had the personality to back it up [insert name or nickname you give her]?"

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So where do you mess up? Right after they respond and you don't know how to make transition to something else? Okay since you mention indirect game works best for you then you have to adapt a frame that you're just checking her out and she hasn't won you over yet. As if you just messaged her out of curiosity (which is bullshit with online dating because everyone is on there for one reason, so direct game would work best), but such thing would work in day game.

Since the information you gave is very little. All I can say is pay more attention to what they respond with and use those info to make transition. Play up the conversation with more push and pull, humor is also great for indirect game since you can insert lot of sexual innuendos. Worst case scenario if you don't have anything to say, whatever they respond with, just ask "Why?".

Also the opener is a bit generic, try to insert a name (if she has it on her profile) or a specific details of her. It makes it more personal and genuine. You can still copy and paste it to 50 other girls, just add an extra unique line for each one of them.
EX: ​I just stumbled onto your profile/seen you walk by and can't help but notice [insert their quality]. I had to say hi and wanted to see if you had the personality to back it up [insert name or nickname you give her]?"
Let me try to explain it the best I can. Here are some key issues: What ends up happening is I get to know the girl more than she knows me, I qualify her and size her up but she's thinking, "I don't even know if this guys worth it." I lose their attention fast.

I need to instantly display my personality to them, so they're impressed and interested. So I have trouble CREATING ATTRACTION AND DHV'ING.

I can qualify and all that but, I don't want my game to be good I want it to be amazing! So after the opener I have no idea where to take the convo so that she'll be attracted to me, so I can start qualifying. So after that first message I don't really know what to say, I'm basically talking about the first 1-5 minutes in the interaction.

I want to be extremely funny, extremely interesting - I think I am naturally I just don't know how to show it to ppl. What are good examples of push/pull too?

I hope I explained it right. I just don't know what to say after the opener to attract her, make her laugh and eventually meet her.

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