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PostPosted: Sat May 04, 2013 11:02 pm 
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I'm in college in the states... my advice to you is join different student groups on campus.

You don't even have to "join" just stop by and make friends every chance you get... Then capitalize on the ones that you think are interested.


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I'm in college in the states... my advice to you is join different student groups on campus.

You don't even have to "join" just stop by and make friends every chance you get... Then capitalize on the ones that you think are interested.
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PostPosted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:34 am 
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No, as someone who's been gaming for several years after college, I can definitely say college is the place that's the fish tank, not the other way around, lol. The real world will always be wide open.

Besides, finding a gf is relatively easy these days. Just hop online -- you don't have to strike up a conversation in a bar or bookstore -- there are thousands of women just waiting for someone like you to email them.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 2:04 am 
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^ so you are saying college is not that great?

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:06 am 
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^ so you are saying college is not that great?
Absolutely. The landscape has changed from how things were for our parents' generation.

Just like with everything else; the job market, the economy, etc., they were able to get it while the going was still good, leaving us with burned out remnants of a place that's no longer conducive for meeting chicks.

College today is a different animal. Cliques reign supreme. Not really what you'd call "social circle game", it's more like closed-off-social-circle-game, minus the game.

The bitch of it is you still need that piece of paper. Most of us go to college as a necessary evil to get it over with.

As a fellow transfer student who graduated, I can tell you wholeheartedly that things could not be any tougher than as a transfer student with 2 years done already, going to a four-year school. Those rare few chicks you could date and dudes you could befriend, who aren't there with their high school cliques or huge crews of friends; - the cliques have already formed with them as well.

I befriended this one dude in a class who did nothing but complain about how much George Mason University sucked, and how he was finally starting to get a foothold socially and was getting the *in* on a few parties, but even when I'd call HIM about chilling on the weekends, etc., - nothing. Voicemail left, nothing.

I'm sure you'll see stuff like this if you haven't already.

And don't believe those studies you see that say girls vastly outnumber guys at every college. Horseshit. Those studies are done from statistics alone without anyone setting foot on a college campus. And yeah, in some cases they may outnumber guys, but you wouldn't see it. They'd be off in their little cliques and at frat houses, sorority houses, and tons of house parties that you wouldn't be invited to.

Colleges are increasingly becoming sausage-fests due to the social stigma of guys not being able to produce, earn decent money, and provide, in a shit economy.

My advice to you: work on developing yourself socially overall, in a general sense, and get college the fuck over with. Are you near any big cities on your campus? Go there.

Sure, you can hang around campus and approach random group of people to make smalltalk, and they'll all look at each other like, "What the fuck?!" -while the girls will pout their lips and stick their noses up in the air.

That's not real-world. You may as well train yourself in more realistic environments. The guy who said "real-life will be just as bad for you if college sucks" is full of shit. My whole time I was at college I wondered, "What the fuck is wrong with me? Am I ugly and don't realize it as no one ever told me or something? Am I socially awkward or something?" Then I get out of college and actually have hot girls approach me at bars and clubs.

Thankfully, I had Washington DC to go to while finishing up my 4 year degree.

Do something like that. Then, if all goes well, you'll be able to hit the real world HARD when you're out of school.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:22 am 
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Dude that is a good viewpoint and a radically different one as well. Yes I agree, college is based on cliques where only a small number of guys will benefit from being with a lot of women due to being in frats or being involved with athletics. Unfortunately I have about maybe 2 more years of college to go, I wish it was over sooner but it won't be.

Yet I do feel that everything is based on cliques formed early on in college rather than how outgoing you are. I never got why so many people on this thread are telling me nonsense about how it will never be easier than it is now, I just don't get it.

I have approached girls, tried to build a social circle, go out sometimes, and in the end it seems like I get punished for not being there early enough, gets so frustrating at times man. Thing is, I go to a top 5 party school as well which just makes it seem like I am missing out on an opportunity but in a way it is like I am not by the way you put it. So many pretty girls here though which makes the drought even worse.

As for DC, I have heard horror stories from many bloggers about how women there are like, maybe you can shed some light on it.

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I don't know where all this bitching and crying came from that college if cliques are formed, you can no longer have a social life. Shut your mouth and do something about it. Be cool, go through the HARD work and befriend and develop your lifestyle. No one is going to hand your ass invites to parties. Make sure if you do get invited to parties to really push yourself out there and make yourself known. Be cool. Do something, if you get invited to a party go and befriend everyone at that party. More than likely you will be received with open arms the next time you walk through those doors.


Guess what? I have only one year left. I hid away from the social scene the last two years due to personal problems. Once I got back onto the radar, barely anyone knew who I was. I put in the work and effort and really got new friends and met new people. I didn't say boohoo, cliques, boohoo, I didn't get invited to a party... I made shit happen. I picked a few people out of each "clique" and made a good first impression and boom, I got introduced to so-and-so and now I am back on the radar. I said hello to everyone, made small talk, thanks to PUA I am more self-aware and able to manage my impressions enough to come off as confident and secure. That is because I worked to get there. Eventually everyone started treating me as such. Screw that it will be awkward, just work through it and you will reap the rewards. There will be people who will be weirded out but let them see you chatting up a group of people and how these people are giving you pats on the back and smiling when you approach them...they will come around and the rest is history..


Stop thinking you cannot overcome obstacles. Stop bitching and get out there.

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No one is bitching, they are just highlighting the reality of the situation. For a college transfer the story becomes a bit different.

Where do you go to college again? Don't tell me the name but tell me the region of the US and things about the college.

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PostPosted: Sun May 12, 2013 3:36 am 
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As for DC, I have heard horror stories from many bloggers about how women there are like, maybe you can shed some light on it.
Well, every city is going to have things that suck. I live there now and can say DC is not for the uneducated. Buy amazing night spots and stuff to do during the day. My social experience is exponentially better here than in college.

What have you heard and which blogs. And please don't say RooshV, lol.

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As for DC, I have heard horror stories from many bloggers about how women there are like, maybe you can shed some light on it.
Well, every city is going to have things that suck. I live there now and can say DC is not for the uneducated. Buy amazing night spots and stuff to do during the day. My social experience is exponentially better here than in college.

What have you heard and which blogs. And please don't say RooshV, lol.
LOL I was going to say RooshV, why? You think his work is garbage too?

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As for DC, I have heard horror stories from many bloggers about how women there are like, maybe you can shed some light on it.
Well, every city is going to have things that suck. I live there now and can say DC is not for the uneducated. Buy amazing night spots and stuff to do during the day. My social experience is exponentially better here than in college.

What have you heard and which blogs. And please don't say RooshV, lol.
LOL I was going to say RooshV, why? You think his work is garbage too?
Not really, but he seems pretty hated by almost every "Game Denialist" website; in fact, Aaron Sleazy of "Debunking the Pickup Community" blog actually allowed a guest poster to come in and post FIVE CONSECUTIVE ARTICLES trying to take down RooshV. After a point, it really started to look a little gay. This guy "Eagle Eyes" must have a serious, flaming hard-on for RooshV.

Could you point me to any videos or articles he talks bad about DC women? I know he talks in one video about Toronto where he compares it to DC, having "boring bland guys who think they're important for their Government jobs." I found a blog post too that, again, seems to really just emphasize the guys.

Michael Hurst, a DC PUA, who also has a book on Amazon "Become that Guy", hosted a talk that I went to. He emailed me yesterday in response to a question about what he thought about DC, because there are *some* haters out there. He said the DC area's been really good to him; he's from the area actually.

His stories in his free pdf book sound exactly like me; college in the area; trying to get in with a Government agency early in his career....

I don't think RooshV's work is crap, per se, but he does make some pretty drastic claims sometimes about how good women have it today that really seem over the top. His own readers posted saying he took it too far, and how some of those pieces were just ridiculous. I really think sometimes that he's a little butt-hurt about something or became jaded for running into too many of the wrong girls, likely back to back for a while.

An example of the over-the-top stuff is this one photo he posts from an upper-level balcony of a night club, looking down on the big open, dance floor/main bar area; he was trying to make a case that dudes outnumber women in nightspots by 46 to 4 or something. But if you look closer at the people, none of the dudes are holding drinks. They're all kind of standing around and chatting with each other; which leads me to think this was a special men's event or something, rather than a typical Saturday night at the club. I see past the gloom and doom in some of his stuff and listen to the decent stuff he does have to say.

None of the PUAHate style sites, give any alternatives or tell you what *to* do: they simply wince in a faggoty tone, "But!.....Game sucks! It sucks, I know it does! You have to be tall, rich, etc."

His videos are also pretty good; he's really candid and tells it like it is.

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Secret is, he is crap, and a lot of his stories are full of lies. The guy trolls little girls on facebook sites on his spare time and digs up trash on anyone who tries to bash him. His forum is full of liars and psychopaths, some people on there are legitimately racist (and I mean legitimately racist).

Many blogs out there have bashed him endlessly and rightfully so. Many true PUAs and dating coaches have said he is full of crap and not successful with women. You have been warned, the guy is absolute garbage.

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Secret is, he is crap, and a lot of his stories are full of lies. The guy trolls little girls on facebook sites on his spare time and digs up trash on anyone who tries to bash him. His forum is full of liars and psychopaths, some people on there are legitimately racist (and I mean legitimately racist).

Many blogs out there have bashed him endlessly and rightfully so. Many true PUAs and dating coaches have said he is full of crap and not successful with women. You have been warned, the guy is absolute garbage.
I've been looking through his blog and forum, and I can't find him even defending himself. The southern poverty law center put him on their published list of "misogynists"; how many of us do you think would make that list if we were in the public eye? I figure if you get through life without offending anyone or making any enemies, you probably haven't done a damn thing with your life. He's walking his talk, and living the life he wants. I can't fault him for that. Sure beats sitting at home and keyboard jockeying or otherwise living your life passively. You've gotta make the calls that are best for you, and that's gonna piss some people off.

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he isn't living any of that, he is making up stories

also, on his forum you can see him trolling other people on the internet, what legit playboy does that?

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he isn't living any of that, he is making up stories
How do you know?

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