I am writing this kind of a response to this an-issue-i-have-noticed-on-pua-forums-b ... 62007.html

My advise will sound controversial, but I will give you my honest take on this. If I were to pick someone to follow this is what I would look for:

1.- Does most of what he says MATCHES or is SIMILAR to my field/reference experiences.

2.- Does it make sense to me base on my field/reference experiences.

3.- Does what he recommends is congruent with me and my personality.

4.- Is what he says consistent or is he changing his mind and style every 2 seconds.

5.- Does his experience/niche is mostly in the type of game i enjoy (online game, day game, night game, dance floor game, social circle, college game.)

That is it, notice that I did not say lay count, reputation in the community, popularity, hotness of the girls he gets, if he is a keyboard Jokey or not. My emphasis was on FIELD/REFERENCES experience.

After having 10-15 years of field/references experiences and having sex with a bunch of women, multiple girlfriends and all that good stuff. I meet what I am gonna call a game changer, kind of like the community call onitis (obsession with one girl that you have not fuck, though I did fuck her, so it was more like neediness).

I knew I was falling into the friendzone and emotional tampon. I also knew the mistakes I was making with the game changer, so I took the same steps I recommended here http://www.theskillsmethod.com/how-to-g ... al-tampon/ from my own intuition ( I had no community knowledge, I had no idea of concepts like go out and fuck 10 other girls).

While I told to myself I fucked it up time to move on and get other women, I got spam by David D. "Double your dating" 10 biggest mistakes you are making with women. I was like shit! that matches MY FIELD EXPERIENCES.

So to make the long story short I bought the book. Read it and again, IT MATCHED MY FIELD EXPERIENCES, since I have always been a self amused, cocky dude. But the most important thing I got out of the book was the psychology and reasoning of what i was doing naturally worked for me, the lines and implementation of the book was kind of weak.

The game changer contacted me, and I got back to my fundamentals and basics that I neglected cause I was so much into her. Gamed her, 6 years later, we are still together she is madly in love ( I was not really her type according to her). While I was with her I was with another 4 lovely ladies btw.

So skills wtf is your point? People say about David D.:

* He is a good Biz man, not a good seducer.

* He is a Scam

* His Wife is Ugly as fuck, looks like a tranny.

* He was never good at seduction.

What the fuck do I give a fuck about all of the above again my only criteria was, does it make sense to me and matches my field/references experiences.

I am not done yet, lets talk about my freaking confusion when I joined the community (couple of my first posts, retarded and embarrassing).

I was lost and I was asking questions like Is this a good opener, what is the right way to deal with a girl that says i look like Vin Diesel? etc... Actually last night I went to couple of my first posts, I was like "facepalm". See what was happening is that I read "The Game" and though it was not congruent with me, my personality and my field experiences. I thought that all along what I was doing successfully as a natural was WRONG. So I was trying to change myself (it never happened, since I was like fuck this, so I never tried it). I was gonna quit the forums, till accidentally I saw couple of pots by a poster name "Warped Mindless". The dude was writing shit and i was like "oh shit that is what I do, that is me", I realized that the fast seduction style I naturally was doing with heavy emphasis on screening, escalation and no wasting time was right. However, they were saying he was a keyboard jockey, but I did not care, again my criteria was does what he writes matches my field experience or it does not. Then he introduce me to other like minded seducers like 60 yoc, Jeff RSD, Gunwitch,Mark Manson, Teevester (which in turn told me about Aaron Sleazy). Most of them matched some or most of my field references experiences.

Notice how every other sentence I keep saying field references experiences. Field and references experience should be your focus or priority no reading and wasting time on forums trying to follow a method or poster. So now the 100 million dollar question, who is the right person or method to follow? YOUR OWN BASED ON YOUR FIELD/REFERENCES EXPERIENCES.

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Excellent post Skills

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or you could simply look for any "mrmatt's guide"

good thread skills

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Just to let you know that while you guys were arguing about the glass of water...... I drank it!

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Those are excellent guidelines; but you have to agree that following those guidelines it`s for people at a whole new level.

You are not the only one reading his first posts and facepalming; actually if you don`t: A. There is something wrong with you.
B. You already have experience and you`ve created a new account, or you simply are a wiser man.

Thing with being your self teacher is that you don`t know/ it`s hard to accept where you did wrong.

Main problem is you don`t know how to correct yourself, what you believe is right might be wrong and viceversa.

Main reason why I think having a Field Report is the biggest tool you could ever get out of this place; but back to the point.

If you are interested in being your own teacher and get knowledge out of experience you need to start asking questions.

Better ones, important ones; every night and day you go out in the field, you go out to attract, you have your goal set very well determined; you must act differently. In order to get new experiences and changes you need to behave somehow different than your older you.

This is one tough motherfucker.

A couple of good questions:

Who am I?
Who do I want to become?
How far am I of becoming that man?
Wich steps should I follow in order to be that man?

Most important one: Is that man what I really wanna become out of life, or is my ego pushing me to believe that being that man rocks and it`s what I want the most?

As I grow older I notice I change my "alpha male" model and try to change myself towards it.

My biggest mistake out of life was choosing James Bond as a role model and being so close minded about it. It was black or white for me for tons of years, I still have some regrets.

Excellent topic; with a little more help of the poster this could be a sticky.

Well, if you have 0 experience you need to field test a particular method minimum 10 times (10 different occasions numerous approaches to play the numbers) and get reference experiences to see what works for you...

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since the other thread was locked, I will weigh in on this and direct it to Paramount21, (i think is the name).
I do think skills360 has some good points about finding a method that seems logical to the newbie. A successful player From Los Angeles is going to be different than one from Washington DC, or Wisconsin or New Orleans or Miami. All will be different b/c the ratio's of male to female are different and the core of how the women in the area were raised and believe and what they desire in a mate will be different. Some area's men have more choices than the women. Some area's it's the other way around. If I go to Dallas Texas, I can pull a 9 easier and quicker than I can pull an 8 in Little Rock Arkansas. Part of it is Little Rock has a high percentage of players, and a lot of fat chicks and not many hot skinny girls to go around. Dallas has a lot of hot skinny girls, but not a high percentage of players with a lot of game.

Anyway, Paramount21, we all get you are a foreigner and in a location where women aren't interested in foreigners, or that's your perception. BUT, you still have advantages that some 6'2 skinny pretty boy with a lot of game doesn't have. For one; most women will perceive you as what they call "harmless". But, you have to come across as harmless. For two, who said "blondes are off-limits" to foreigners? That's the craziest thing I've heard of. Is someone going to kick your ass b/c you are talking to a blonde? Are your parents or friends going to disown you? If a blonde is in your car, or house, are you going to be arrested and taking to jail? You would have an element of women talking to you b/c they aren't intimidated by you, that I couldn't have and I'm 6'2 and real attractive. There's a workable percentage of attractive women out there who want to be different. That's why some whites hold hands with the blacks. I'm from the south and I think most parents would rather see their white daughter with a foreigner than a black. I read you to say you've done 100 approaches with no luck or something like that, and I know of real good looking white guys who's done 500 with no luck.

And by the way, I see white women with foreigners all the time where I am which is Arkansas which is in the south. part of your issue is your attitude. You are a complainer with a negative attitude and no one really likes complainers. You have the "I can't" attitude. Start working on your attitude more and then you can start having some more success.

Are you going to be walking in to a bar every night and coming out with a 9? No, but no one does that anyway.

Like the post skills. i started out just trying lots of things i read on here and different sites but now that i have got more experience I start to see people and styles who are more my style and who help me a lot more than others. I don't completely ignore someone just because they normally post in a different style to me because sometimes they still say decent stuff. but generally there are a handful of regular posters who suit me more than others so i look otu for their posts more than anyone else.