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Posts: 1059 | I keep getting bugged to come back to this forum even after I've left by a lot of new people, I respect that and I understand your all having problems with your game and here is my solution, call it the Impact method.
Firstly ill keep everything here brief, ill release a Ebook at the end of this year to help everyone out. I've been in the game 1 year exactly, I have had much success with girls ranging from 7's to 10's and the very rare 11. Im currently schifting my game to work for me wherever I go. Ill keep everything very short, the primary purpose for that being that out of a 7 hour seminar I only really remember 10-40% of everything, so ill only include what you need and that's it.
KEY RULES.
1.) Girls want to meet men that's why they are out period. Do you really think a chick hangs around the mall all day window shopping? or in clubs doing the same stupid moves over and over for hours for fun? no. And this is not debatable. They are there to meet men, they want to meet a interesting guy.
2.) A girl will not like you if you make it so, if you go up to her and act scared and wierd, try hard (demonstrating a lot of value for acceptance), she will only then turn you down, and its not personal its your approach, nothings personal in this. If you had approached her differently you would've had her, that's simply how it is. Does your approach define you? no. Women don't understand approach anxiety, so play it cool, and push the sets even if you run out of material, just make up routines. Like a actor in a play running out of shit to say he says anything to test if it works.. Its hit and miss but you learn so its cool.
3.) You will only go out in field and use this material if you have the proper mind set. Don't go out with a needy, scared, responsive mind set expecting to get laid.. no. It wont work! YOU CAN go out in field and work your way up by talking to a lot of people even if its cutting out of approaches or whatever.. but bottom line is you need to be totally comfortable with who you are and where your going, what you want in life and what your looking for, and you have to have that mindset of a cool guy with a edge to him. In fact there's only a few mindsets that work.
I) The energy mindset known as the gay approach 'OMG GUYS YOUR SO CUTE'
ii) The manly cocky approach, 'Wow I love those shoes, do they come in women sizes? *smile*'
iii) The normal approach happy to share life approach,' Hey wow that was such a cool experience man you wouldn't believe what I did' / Is it me or is it totally raining today? you know i had a..
iv) The direct approach, 'hey do you like a honest guy or a dishonest one? Well... okay if you like honest I have to come clean, I don't know ya but I dig ya! What's your name?'
v) The man has balls approach, 'I love your tits, congratulate yourself! so have you named them yet?'
All of them have good body posture and no brain farts in their words.. like um.. ugh.. argh. (Credit Style Rules of the Game) So eliminate them, take time to articulate your words in set. THere is no rush!
Basic structure
OPEN - Disqualify/Neg - DHV - Move her & Have fun - Number Close
Open
Hey quick question im looking for art gallerys
Wow killer shoes, im actually looking to get something like that for my sisters bday (if its true tell it)? wherd you get them from? and do they bite? WOAH they almost bit me, thats it!
omg Is it me or is the weather turning for bad to worse?
Hey i love your nails, are they real? oh.. well... theyr nice anyway (credit mystery)
Hey are your eyes really that blue? they cant be your wearing contacts arnt you? No way, can i poke them? oh psht u actually thought i was serious, u dont get out much do you  *nudge*
(Openers dont really matter! game is played in comfort credit: mystery)
Disqualify
See we wouldnt get along your not good at this stuff, whatevvvva missy talk to the elbow the hand just got a divorce and wants custody of our 32 kids
(the reason you do this is so you dont make her feel wierd, if youve had a girl come up to you in the past and said hey sexxy, and really come onto you, youd know what im on ab out, its freaky.. i reject the girl despite liking her..)
DHV
Hey did you know then women actually have a scent thats 3 times better then a mans? so when you walk in his room you can totally smell everything about him! (anything interesting, because its cool why not a girl has to learn from her man)
Move
Hey theres some cool stuff going on in the shopping malls, im thinking of doing some shopping i need a fellow sidekick *smile touch* to help me out, come join me i have to leave in a hour anyway. (IF SHES going to become your gf you have to go out and some trust has to be invested on her part) When you move her you can also try to qualify her aswell. Ask her how long her last relationship is, remember this is now comfort! you need to qualify her so she feels like you like her because shes a good cook or shes good with family or whatever.
HAVE Fun
omg see that girl i dare you to go up to her and tell her that you love her hair and wink at her, then you can dare me something! (If you dont have fun this is all worthless)
Number
well hon your time is up, however you seem like a generally cool person, at first i had you as just some girl but you earned your stars missy! congradulate yourself, pass me your hand *write number* then hand her the pen *your turn* oh have you played the Spaceship game? no? pass me your other hand.. *draw a big penis on it* haha thats something to remember me by! well anyway its been a pleasure talking, if i ever come to the city ill give you a msg! catcha tiger *kiss on cheak*
(Number to see her again)
Starting off
If you go to the city, day game, have a opener, a lot of people go into the field and they don't really know the material, they somewhat know where it leads but they haven't rehearsed the material which is very important. SIT DOWN learn one opener, you only really need one, I don't see the point for more. When you get good you wont be using these so called 'canned openers'. They are just crutches to get you moving, you can use them whenever you want and you don't have to think so they help out a lot. And don't use openers that make you feel guilty, like lies and all that, its not necessary! Your job is to learn something that's why you'd use a opinion canned opener, and everyone has a different answer so its cool to audition people and find out one that works.
One of the most simple once that I generally use is 'hey quick question I'm looking for some art gallery's or cool places in <country area>, are you any good with directions? *your goal being to find some cool places to go because to get inspired for your friends birthday party or your own, your looking for like a theme.. and your trying to bait her to invest and help you out*
Her answer can be, No I'm not form here - Oh where you from? omg your German....... oh no, I dated a German girl.. you guys are pouncers missy that's it *take a step back* I can't even talk to you now... you need to pass my trust test before we go further..ever had it done on you? okay so this is how it goes but I don't have long I have to go look for a art gallery here to get inspired for my mates bday, so pass me your hands real quick! You'll love this!
*this is where you do mystery's trust test of hand holding and where you grab her hand and twirl her around a bit to get her more comfortable, and you explain why it works hence that being your dhv*
this is your world your reality you dominate and control it, let her come into your cool reality because hers is a void, she feels what you feel, if you feel cool she will rub off on that if you feel like shit that will come off fast and she will become icy
yes its (her giving you directions) - Omg your not really good at this are you? WHATTTTTTTTTEVA left right.. uhu uhu.. whatever *touch* *this is where you play with it* You know if we were both are going driving somewhere you'd totally get us lost and id have to take care off the job of getting us home.. whateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeva.. *if she has a friend* CAN YOU BELIEVE THIS GIRL? how do you hang with her? see this is why we wouldn't get along, I bet you can't cook either?
your disqualifying yourself and making her invest and qualify
if she says I can cook that's taking your bait, then you make her invest, what are 3 things you'd cook to impress my parents if I took you home and burnt toast is not one of them! If she names them that's your IOI, that means your doing everything right its time to reward her, and tell her how Impressed you are! She got a gold star, at 3 she gets to buy you coffee tell her that!
If she says yeh no I'm a crap cooker, say 'Yeh I thought so!, I'm not surprised its ok *touch* so besides talking to handsome young men what else can you do?
After that cut the bullshit and talk for a while, you've demonstrated higher value, if she laughs and touches you that's rapport, A3 where you talk a little tell a story, maybe something amusing and funny about your life that somewhat connects to parties and ideas, maybe tell her a cool event that you will host, show her you have a life!
You can then throw a compliance test be like hey are you good with shopping? or is there a good coffee place here I'm dying for a mocha!
So now you've opened demonstrated value you've qualified her its time to move her, to your comfort building location! where you will talk about interesting stories play the question game where you ask her a question and she asks you but she can't ask the same question and she starts (credit mystery) your building comfort here, talking about your life, interesting experience even vulnerabilities you've had, your not trying to hype yourself up here but demonstrate that your a normal human being with his emotions intact. On the way to your comfort location whatever that is or your mini adventure you can play lots of fun games one I did is to make her go up to a stranger and ask for direction but the stranger has to be the most hideous person like the fat guy with nose hair or something and if she wins you get to teach her some thing cool but if she looses she has to teach you something fun.
Theres a lot of stuff in between but you can't choreograph normality, you simply have to go and have fun. don't be needy, enjoy the moment, as if you've been laid, and yeh She following you but don't get effected, you need to be a man, and a man means non needy. Don't give your power away, if she starts walking in front of you or doing something to bitch test you and she WILL bitch test you for sure, just stop and know its your world you command the interaction not her, She a guest in your reality, Lead the way, make the order for drinks, take her glasses try them on. Have fun.
This should be enough you don tneed more, I realize people have approach anxiety's and things, but you need to realize all men have them, including the best most confident men, realize that men are emotionally weaker then women, that's perfectly fine, we are not ment to be emotionally stronger, just not appear fazed by her beauty and energy that's what determines the basic man from the chump. She knows your emotionally weaker later she will try to exploit it and you wont let her that shows your strong and you can protect her which is cool. A man who can overtake his own fears is truly brave. To overcome your own fear is probably the highest achievement anyone can give you in that regard. Try to keep real with everything, your stories make them real, don't bullshit, make them sound cooler tho, as if you were hyping but don't boast about it. Don't talk yourself up, just talk about things you've learned from and experiences you had that's cool. You can talk up your friends, that's superb, means you value interesting company and possibly you expect it.
Really know that you have nothing to loose, she has no value until she proves worthy to your standards. And that you have to drill in your FUCKING HEAD! for its those standards that define a man from a pussy. In my case she has no value until I've had sex with her. When I've had sex with her I protect her, take care of her, and respect her!
Draw a circle now and out of it draw little lines outward and list everything that you are. I have passionate ambitious all that stuff is down for me, I spend a good hour listening to music of when I was younger to see from where I've come to where I am, establish a mental link!
You don't fail in this game, you make errors, some can be pretty funny and bad errors but you only fail if you pull yourself out from your game or if you let the error become a mistake! Errors are there to be fixed.
* Everything you learn from here on in to improve yourself is something that you can use as a DHV in field.
* Try out things that don't seem logical, you may give a girl a IOI or throw things her way that usually don't work. Experiment, this is how you learn how to feel your way around a area. When you walk in a dark room you feel around, you don't just run in! It's cool to make errors even when you know its wrong, just to see the outcome of it. This also works with ideas such as peacocking or dressing a different way (credit: Style)
Thanks for reading as always I try to help as much as I can!
Oh one last thing, you will forget 40% of all information you gather, don't be fearful that's normal, you don't need routines to talk to a girl or to have her like you. So if you don't remember something just enjoy the process and try something out, its human to feel whatever you feel during this process and perfectly normal and okay as a matter of fact its probably the right thing to do. Don't forget to seperate bad information from good information. You will get distracted in your studys, you simply won't be able to go out sarging all the time, your brain will decide to do other things, thats fine you can take brakes but keep your eyes and ears open for new routines.. ie you may be watching a tv show and youll say to yourself, hey thats a kick ass line, i wanna use that.. be aware, and try to not long periods of time indoors. If you do, youll have to come back from a curve! that means youll know what you have learned but you won't be able to apply it unless you get your mind to think in that pickup zone again.
If shes mean for no reason, shes stupid, NEXT! if they are all mean your doing something wrong, stop think see where your going wrong and continue!
And if she doesn't call back or sms you back or gives you the wrong number, it probably means you didn't 'have enough fun and comfort building' thats it. Whatever, the greatest winners loose alot. But they understand that winning goes hand in hand with loosing! Do you really think Ali won every fight in his career? do you really think Jordan scored every Bbal shot? or Michael Jackson made hits on all his songs? no. As a matter of fact Jackson was beat with a cain for failing during his youth, Michael Jordan was too skinny and short to be a bbal player so the coach said.. eventually he was in and missed too many shots, even shots he was expected to get in so the team wins the match! And Ali lost alot of fights despite being the worlds greatest boxer! So its okay, work on it! Don't take it personally! tis cool! And this mission is undertaken by you, not you and your cock in hand buddy, not you and your pickup artist homie, or your g, its you and you alone. SO next time you say IMPACT IMPACT, CALL ME MY NUMBER IS or whatever to do with sarging my reply will be simple
You shouldnt be sarging with men for a while anyway, go meet women and bring them to a club, experiment! you have 4 years from the moment you start to achive your full goal! Plan out how you will do this!
Enjoy!
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