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Keep it up dude, enjoying this.
After reading through some of these I can't help but wonder if you are making the same mistake that I'm fixing now, getting the other person more into conversation than trying to force it or asking questions instead of having more of a conversation. Either way, you go at this with bravado which is awesome.
Thanks for showing love, I appreciate it.
Your guess will be confirmed in this very same post, so prepare for a long one, a scared one, and my bravado attitude will go only so far; I believe now that you have to be confident for REAL in order to achieve what I want.
Please share whatever insight you might have on fixing that problem, God knows I could use it.
First night out with zero alcohol: a game changer.
We were a group of nine people, 4 of us male, the other female. All friends with my wing wich I last mentioned. We met near some bars at 12 o clock but some of the girls wanted to go eat, so we all jumped in. This kinda ruined my mood as I was going out to pick up and hit the venue, enjoy loud music and practice being present. Either way I had a Corona beer of 330 ml. and that was all the buzz I was having for the night.
We finally entered a club at 3 am, I would be untill 5 am there. When having dinner I made friends with one of the dudes wich would be my wingman for the rest of the night; my friend had a target inside his group and would approach only a few times with us.
Anyway after getting inside and checking the venue I notice some strong eye contact from a few girls; most of those girls I don`t like, like 4`s and 5`s. But there was one who was a 7. She made eye contact twice and I gave her a strong one also, but I never approached her.
You see, this is my biggest mistake. I write on a brave man`s attitude; but I`m beginning to notice that I only do cold approach on girls who have no idea who I am and sended no signal at all. This might be out of fear of actually getting good with women and trying to secure my rejection. Like I`m going straight to get rejected, and that`s something to change. So another babe sends me signals, and once again I don`t approach her out of fear of actually being well received.
My first few sets rejected me big time: the first one was asking a girl on a 4 set if they were always this shy. That was because I was with antoher 2 guys dancing near to her by 5 minutes and not doing anything at all. She laughs but doesn`t say anything as a reply, and starts talking to her friends after they asked her what did I said.
The next set was when I asked a girl if I could borrow her friend for a minute (a two set), to wich she had no problem with, but her friend did when I tryied to pull her hand and dance.
Another set exactly like this one. I`m getting frustrated now.
Then I see to girls writing on her cellphones next to the bar, lonely and bored they seem. So I tell my friends: I`m going in.
I approach the two set straight up and talk to my target. "Woow! You seem like having a lot o fun! What do you girls think about going to the dancefloor with me and my friends and have a blast?" While pointing at my wings, then they both jump in.
My target starts talking to me, saying thanks but no, thanks. So I tease her about it; "Oh! Thanks, that will surely do (smile on my face), I`m come here to invite you to have fun and you give me a thanks back."
She starts qualifying herself and saying we are not the first to approach em, all of those guys with the same results.
At this point I knew I wasn`t being able to dance with this girl that night, but I could go for a phone or a facebook. So with that idea in mind i told her that I same thing: that I knew I wasn`t convincing her for a dance, but that I would really enjoy to keep that conversation some other time. If she wanted to give me her phone number or facebook we could actually do it.
She was ok with the idea and told me she could give me her facebook and we`ll take it from there. I asked her face name and she gave it to me. Eject.
After writing the face on my cell I noticed I became happyier; I`m like a child with my mood: if I get rejected tons of times, I get in this poor mindset of not wanting to do it anymore; when on the other hand, if I get a phone, a kiss, a face I get in a happy mood. This is not good, my state shouldn`t be this emotionally dependant.
Next thing I see is a group of girls saying things to each other, and I notice one of em (hb 6) talking to her friends but looking at me. So I look at her witha strange look on my face and I try to pull her in with my finger asking for her to appraoch. She does and when she was saying something I can`t remember, suddenly one of her friends jumps into the set and tells me: You are really well groomed.
This set had like 5 girls, all of wich screamed when she told me that, and I hate to say this: but it totally disarmed me. I have a problem when I`m approached by girls or they show some sign of real interest in me.
So after she saying this I told her we should dance, she said no but she wanted. I insisted, she told her friend she wanted to dance with me and my wing, I said no problem; but since I`m such a poor dancer and my friend is too, we kinda fucked up and the girl let go of our hands. My wings started to talk to other girls of the group while I was standing as if I were lost. I hate that feeling and doing it on the dancefloor, but I haven`t figured it out how to stop that.
My last set gave some insight about the quality of my game at this point: the wing I met that same night asked me to follow him into this 2 set. Of course I said.
Of course, he grabbed the hb 6 for a dance, while leaving me with an older women hb 5. I asked her to dance also, but since she had a bottle of beer on her hand and a glass on the other, I told her no problem, we can talk and leave our friends to have fun for a while.
She totally agreed, she was really nice. I loved that.
I introduce myself, she says her name for me, and I try some cold reading on her. I tell her: let me guess...
You come here often! She smirks, likes what I did, and says yes. So I tell her: it`s your turn.
She thinks, laughs, and tells me: you don`t come often in here.
I call her on what she did on that, we both have a laugh, and then I froze up. I wasn`t getting any good idea out of my head. She notices, I tell her: see? I`m out of guesses now! I froze up; so she was nice enough to ask me if I was born in this town. Told her I did, asked her and she had me guessing where she was from, made it easy for me. Then I tell her it was very nice to meet her and kiss her on the cheek.
My thoughts on the night without drugs and alcohol:
1. When it comes to approaching, the one set that went well was because I somehow removed the girl`s fear like kasabi told me before, by simply teasing the girl on giving me crap about not dancing. Like you can turn her response to your invitation into a nice conversation and she will be more comfortable around you; this leaves you with a much better set because now it`s actually responding to you and showing interest.
2. Game without buzz is way harder than I thought, but I made a decision now of doing so and start to actually lear it the proper way. If one night I wanna get drunk I will and not try to learn pick up, just have fun while drinking. But when I`m out to practice I NEED to be sober.
3. I`m forcing conversations with girls and girls notice it. This can`t be good, I didn`t even mentioned at the field report but in the same set that I was told I was well groomed, I had a conversation with another girl wich ended up with me asking to her: so you have that philosophy on the subject? To wich she gave me a stranged face and ejected back to her friends. That can`t be the proper way of talking to girls.
4. STOP TALKING LIKE A LAWYER.
I pretend to be this guy with great vocabulary, and I`m a show off with strangers. I beleive it brings me value when it actually lowers it by communicating others how insecure I am that I need validation from strangers.