PUA techniques seem to be designed to attract specific kinds of women, such as socialites and associated people. the techniques talk about having cool interests and not "bad" or "geeky" interests, or dressing sharply.

The thing is though that women are different, and men are different too. If a man's favourite hobby is, say, reading or drama and not dancing or snowboarding as PUAs cite, does this mean PUA doesn't apply to him or he can never get a date? Another point is that PUA is often geared to pick up in bars/clubs, and whilst to younger people they are common hang out places, they don't appeal to all. I guess in fairness daygame is big now, which somewhat circumvents that.

If people can attract a woman who hangs out in bars/clubs a lot, and is in to mainstream/pop culture-based interests, then it should be able to attract a woman who is pious and goes to church often and detests clubs, another who is an artist and hates bars for being too loud, and an additional woman who used to go to clubs every weekend without fail but has outgrown them.

Depends on what material you are reading. PUA is designed to give you the tools to attract women. Generally it doesn't mean a specific kind. If you have an idea of the kind of woman you want then you cater yourself to that market. If it is a good girl that you want, then you will practice pickup outside of bars/clubs. If you want to attract nerdy chicks, then you can dress nerdy. If you want to attract party chicks, then dress outlandish. You get my drift?

You can still talk about things you like however, you should do it passionately and don't half ass it. If you like reading, then say so with enthusiasm and with conviction.

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It is designed to get you out there until you find your niche. My niche has been gingers, girls of certain minority groups, and girls who are more of the geeky kind but cute.

I don't think PUA is designed to attract specific kind of women, that is all down to who you are in society. PUA just helps you find your niche and make the most of it.

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Somethings are just Human's Nature. It doesnt matter where she is a barbie or a "hate-da-system" girl, there is some genetic things that affect all human beings. Such things as "Challenges" (When you pretend you are above her - DoubleYourDating stuff.) its something that affect us all.

Such things you must use to get into that "kind" of girl. Try to use NLP techniques, as they enter the mind of your set, it doesnt matter what she is trying to say in the outside (She is a gothic, etc. shit like that)

IMO each type of technique goes after specific types of girls, for instance freeze outs rarely work on confident women because confident people know what they want and go after it.

Some techniques are universal (such as humor, physically attractive features, confidence, etc.) but most pua technique work on the majority of a type of woman but need to be applied at the proper moment.

Someone that is good with women doesn't just have 1 technique, he has several, he adjusts to the woman and her frame which changes moment to moment. That is the thing about a lot of these methods my personality may work with one type of technique where as with you it may not be nearly as successful. If I told you how I do things it may make no fucking sense but I can tell you it works and it works very well, does that mean it's a technique for you? Not necessarily.

Some techniques will work better for you than me (I'm a good looking not a great looking guy) so I have to build more attraction, my personality does the work, and my charisma influences their thoughts and mind (sexual and what not).

Everyone advertises experience because there is no way to get exceptional with women without it, you can't just all of sudden know what technique to use given the situation without actually just kind of knowing what you should do, this comes from a lot of experience.

If you want to get good with women you learn to read and react, you learn to be attractive(yes a learned behavior but some of us definitely get much better physical assets than others), you learn to connect with women, and most important of all you'll learn to allow for/build sexual tension/escalate things sexually.

Each technique works better with a specific type of moment/frame and personality, what you can get away I might not be able to and vice verse that said confidence gives you a wide selection of things to work with.

So IMO overall yes it can be MORE effective on some women but that doesn't mean it won't work to some extent on most women. Some techniques are more effective with certain types women than others.

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Generally, yes. It is designed to attract a specific "type" of girl. But this pertains only to looks. The entire PUA framework and principles of attraction, traced back to "The Game," was and still is designed to attract 8.5's and above, essentially the top 5 percent of the female population. The girls every guy is trying to get.

I think The Game was a great piece of literature, but I would say that it overemphasized getting the "club girl" a little too much. Mystery dedicated a good portion of his work to getting the "club girl" because he found that most of the girls (9's and above) he was trying to get happened to be found in clubs. This is not the case in every city of course.

The principles of pickup remain the same however, regardless of venue. (DHV's, kino escalation, etc., you know the drill) You just go about this in different ways in a quieter bar or a hotel lobby than you would in a club.

Either way yes, PUA is still designed to attract that one 8/9 in a group. The one in the bar/club that every guy wants and can usually be found in a large group, likely surrounded by female protectors and other male orbiters, or, ahem, her "guy friends."

Agree with the post above – it’s designed to attract girls who are attractive – ie. 8s/9s/10s and who hopefully have the whole package – and give you the power to obtain these girls.

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PUA has now evolved past the game. It has grown into something much bigger and more powerful. The tools PUA provides allow you do whatever you wish with them - this includes nailing job interviews, etc.

Bart - Excellent point. I've noticed this as well. It's not JUST about picking up girls. Of course, the ability to consistently land attractive 8+ level women is a worthy goal and an important part of any man's life. I share that goal.

But it transcends pickup into broader areas of life. Overall self-confidence and physical appearance help you succeed in other areas as well, particularly in professional conversation. The ability to carry and frame a conversation, especially in a job interview, will count 5x as much as your actual answers to questions in said interview. FACT.

You have a madonna whore complex, the idea that you will treat a girl that goes to a club different than a girl that goes to church, is beyond naive, is a limiting belief, get around the idea that women like sex, and deprogram yourself with societal programming, i can tell by your post you have a bunch of limiting belief, get out of the matrix.... With that being said if you are attracted to the church type girl, just go to youthgroup or young adult activities withing the church, but DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE how you game them, come acrosss as secret society dude:

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People also underestimate a variety of other factors with PUA.

1. Your race. As much as I hate to bring it up (and I do bring it up often), it is going to be more difficult for a minority, no matter how much game he has, to attract that pretty looking blonde everyone is aiming for. I have tried it, I have had luck with brunettes, gingers, and all kinds of girls but I have run into the Barbie Doll that just isn't loving the exotic look I have (dark hair, dark eyes, and tanned skin).

2. Your location. Obviously a guy living in California who happens to look like me will probably not have as many barriers getting in his way (race) as a guy living in the deep south where interracial dating is mostly frowned upon. People act like cold approaches are so casual everywhere but you do that in the small cities in the south where the older population will give you a tough time for it, believe me, you will be in a world of regret. Some places are not PUA friendly while others (big cities) have people who don't really care at all.

3. Who YOU are. I think we all need to make an effort to be who we need to be to attract the girls we want. An athletic girl will not give most geeky guys the time of the day. If you want to attract the outgoing party girl, you need to be the outgoing party guy. The goal of PUA should be to transform your image and realize that though game is great, it has its limits.

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Dude race has nothing to do with attracting women. You have to let this go. You seriously do. It's stunting your growth like hell.

I hate church and religion, but that's your opinion. The fact is most PUA is based on club-game, or appealing to the socialite female. It doesn't account for other types of woman.

ok thanks for the info. i am writing it down, what the fuck is pua anyways, i am talking about seduction, dude you have long way to go and your mindset, myths and limiting belief are really fucked up... Most puas do day game and a lot do online game! dude where you get your info. from, go to youtube simplepickup, good looking loser, steve jabba, i can go on and on and on, day game... Keep formulating excuses will make you a "hardcase newbie"...

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to say it has nothing to do with it is naive, now it isn't everything, but it does have its role

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