Trojan, you'd be wise to listen to Par's advice on this thread. She's a very cool, intelligent girl and is speaking the truth here. Also, Trojan, WTF is up with you saying there is something wrong and weird about her??? Damn, you don't want people to judge you, give the same consideration to those you don't know. There was nothing said that would indicate she's wrong or weird.

Nope. He's not a bully Trojan. He's been around long enough for me to know that. However, I'm thinking this is like the ONE time I warned you through pm that if you kept up you could get banned . . . then you respond to me with "every 5 minutes you're threatening to ban me".

You say "I don't think you have a shred of valuable advice dude" . . . hmmmm, do we need to go into that one? Trojan, don't speak of things you don't know about. Envy's been here a lot longer. He has indeed put out good posts.

Look Trojan, just put yourself into perspective, ok? That's all we're really asking.

alright...

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I totally agree with paramour. Very wise

Trojan there could be numerous reasons why she has'nt. I'd much rather meet a girl like this rather than one who has slept with half the town.

I guess that could be good, but then again a 7 by my standards isn't a social retard who hasn't had any human skin to skin contact before.. I want my girls to atleast kissed aguy before or everything is gonna be wierd but hey if thats what you do then do it , its just not my cup of tea and it wierds me out sometimes whe I run into girls like tha.

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First you agree...
Then you call this girl a social retard?

Awesome.

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I agreed with not arguing with that other guys post but when i wrote that "social retard" post I hadn't even read the not insulting other people women post that he wrote before. but yeah I think she's not all there if she hasn't kissed somebody bfore, thats just my opionion on this issue. This guy should next her, hes just staying with her for sex and I can't believe you guys condone that. He said it himslelf, plus she obviously has no personality, and no looks (if shes just a 7) I personally just advise moving on and not trying to get a quick lay, if she's not on your level...only date or waste your time with girls who you truly feel are worth it...but you can tell by his first post he doenst feel that way...

But I realize that I was wrong for calling her a social retard, I figured since I wasnt talking about someone who was on this board it'll be okay but now I realize that its not...

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As far as her looks, she's a red head, she wears nerdy girl glasses, she has boobs and a butt, but not a perfect stomach (flat, not toned). Her face is cute but not perfect (broke her nose a few years ago). I said 7 because a lot of guys have impossibly high standards. Anything about a normal guy's 6 I would f-close, and I consider myself a very attractive male. This isn't American Psycho, I don't just f-close every bimbo that walks my way. I'll take a seven with personality than an 8 who is dumb as a stick any day.
No more drama, and thanks for all the advice!

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She sounds fit from your description of her. Buts thats just me i guess, not the type every guy would go for.
I agree with with TM dont just use her for a quick lay, but im not saying you should marry the girl either.

TM you say a HB 7 aint got no looks? We all rate them different but i think your just being shallow.
The way i rate them a 7 is quite a looker, if she had a good personality and good dress sense them she would be quite a catch in my eyes. Why would'nt you date a 7?

not saying that a sevens ugly im just saying a sevens average and why go all out trying to break down an introverts wall if she is just an average girl with an average personality. just seem like a little work for me, i only mess with 9's and up that just personal, and mostly because im not in it for a string of lay reports, im trying to find the one but thats just me...

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Fair enough. Thats totally reasonable.
Ar'nt you abit young to be looking for the one or do you mean someone your really attracted to and can have a decent relationship with? Im not that fussed to be honest, i can pull the hotties but as long as im attracted to her its cool. But then again im no good at the relationship thing so i seem to just jump from girl to girl. I think it shows that iv got alot of game to work on and need to sort my life out, a relationship would be nice though.

Try to be upfront with her about your intentions. The fact that she hasn't kissed a guy, let alone been involved allows you to throw the book out of the window for this one.

Believe it or not, there are people who are late bloomers. For whatever reason, they didn't pursue anything or weren't pursued until after their teens. It doesn't mean that something is wrong with them, just that they lack the experience until they get into a situation where they become comfortable enough to experience their first kiss and ultimately, everything else.

Once you start to be a true pick up artist you only look for stuff that potentially a meaningful relationship.

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Picture this . . .

This shy guy sits in the back of the classroom, wishing he had the attention of the girls. He sets himself up in his mind to think that he will only go for the hottest of the hot, which is easier than admitting to himself that he has problems with AA.

He doesn't have his choice of girls, because his AA has kept him from building up a social circle. So he rationalizes that, saying he's waiting for the right one, when deep down inside, he wishes he had some company.

When, in reality, deep down inside, he's craving the attention. He wants the company, and who can blame him? We all need the attention. We need the human social interaction, so that's natural.

But he has yet to realize he's going about it the wrong way . . .

Not true. Each guy is different.