Unless your are a amped up ....basically passionate pyschopath that only feels intense confidence and passion all the time things will hurt you and things will affect you. Most people have an unrealistic understanding of self-confidence which they think of as being confidence seperate from everyone else's opinion and not caring what people think. You can never live up to that and will only compound shame as you continue to fail to meet those standards.

Look, people are going to affect you and hurt your feeling. This happens and its a part of being human. Now whether you persist through being hurt is an entirely different story, but you will get hurt. Otherwise someone is bullshitting you. The whole reason that racial slurs, gay slurs, sexist language are often banned and looked down on is because it hurts people.

The purpose of confidence is to help you to do the things you want and to do it with poise.

Self-confidence doesn't equal Self-esteem... yet again you prove straight up ignorance.

They are related but not the same. Self-confidence is you being confident being your self... this doesn't mean you hold yourself in high esteem.... I used to have confidence in myself but didn't value myself. Fuck dude it's like you are just proving yourself dumber and dumber. Stop arguing about shit you know nothing about.

Your thought that people can hurt you is your reality... the shit of it is you told me on your decider thread you create your reality and here you acting as though you didn't create your bull shit mentality.

You continue to not meet perfect standards yet you believe you are perfect. Is that no creating a bull shit reality? LOL fucking stupid.

I myself have unstoppable bullet proof confidence only because the ongoing conscious effort I make at every moment... yes I am completely conscious of what I do and my emotional state... I choose my emotional state..

The only people that should ever be able to hurt you are people you allow... this will be people you date or love(which are often both).

You think sexual slurs, gay, and racism have any power? You are fucking way off.... the only person that can give a person influence over you is you... It's one thing if we are talking about physical pain... if you get beat up for being a race or being gay. However if it is just an insult, you grant that person "power" over you with offense.

Let me use an example from my life. I am Mexican... though I grew up in Cali I now live in predominately white Utah where there is an underlying racism. Have I bean called a beaner? Yup. Have I been called a spic? Yup. I have been called a wetback? Yup.. I got told to go back where I came from... I laughed and said California? I got told I didn't know how to speak proper English because I referred to 2 females as guys... when the plurality of humans is always masculine. Did I give a flying fuck about any of these? NOPE! I am not at all offended by ignorance I don't grant anyone that power over me.

The only person who can control you is you. Other than that you are giving up control of yourself to another person. Fuck, you are so powerless over yourself no wonder why you are constantly obsessed with the power in an interaction.

You have zero self-control everyone else controls... your life sucks dude.

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Vic

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Pretty sure that kind of confidence is attainable. The reason that kind of language is banned is because people are sensitive. Not everyone has the coping mechanisms or the capacities to overlook the negative emotions associated with those issues.

You are right, you can get hurt. However, you can choose whether it will impact you negatively. I remember disliking AMOGS who happened to be athletes. This was awhile back. They would comment that I shouldn't be deserving of the calibre of women I pulled and would try to tool me because I was an average guy and try take these women back in douchebag fashion. They would belittle me, tag team on me, and try to intimidate me and I was angry for awhile. Eventually, I increased my confidence in MYSELF and realized that it was kind of cute that they would try to get a rise out of me. Now, I brush past them like nothing. It is a liberating feeling and it is possible to attain that kind of confidence. It is a been there done that kind of attitude that you build. EVENTUALLY, these AMOGS understood that I did not care about their athletic status and that they not longer had an negative impact on me.
Back to your point, no one is lying to anyone. Only lie would be if someone told you that this confidence was attainable in the blink of an eye. I saw your argument in another post and in the beginning you are right. There will be a pain period, but eventually you will get to that high point where nothing can touch you.

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Hey InvictusTwo, have been reading about your frustrations from the sideline.

If I am not mistaken, you want to be a man that gets picked up by women and not vice versa. Would you say that it´s a fair statement about you?

My tip would be to check out some brent smith kind of material. You can google him and find a lot of clips on youtube. It´s all about not chasing women and being persued.

Explore these concepts and share what you learn from them. If you´re having problems with something look for people who have gone the same road and have some discussions with them.

And I do partially agree with what is being said in this post, but only to some extent.

Vic, you can´t say someone is ignorant because of the fact that you disagree with them. If you want someone to understand your point of view than you first have to agree and listen to theirs. I thought you were an Allen Peace fan, you should know this.

Be exellent and party on!

Don't know if you are asking a question or just statements, but IMO..


Confidence being able to talk to women, or feeling like you can get anyone and talking to anyone. (Basically I view this as life is like a RPG game, I have freedom of movement and do not live in a box. I talk to anyone in the room I want. I translate confidence as freedom.

Self esteem feeling comfortable around people and y ourself. ? ?


Anyways I can't tell you have I got over AA, and have 100% confidence but I do. I like to talk cute girls, and make a habit of talking to them when I am out, even if I don't get a number.

I don't let words hurt me/affect me, only slows you down bro. Life is too short, don't pick fights, brush it off. (DHV, you didn't get sucked into their pitty battle) Freeze them out/ignore.

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Self-confidence doesn't equal Self-esteem... yet again you prove straight up ignorance.

They are related but not the same. Self-confidence is you being confident being your self... this doesn't mean you hold yourself in high esteem.... I used to have confidence in myself but didn't value myself. Fuck dude it's like you are just proving yourself dumber and dumber. Stop arguing about shit you know nothing about.

Your thought that people can hurt you is your reality... the shit of it is you told me on your decider thread you create your reality and here you acting as though you didn't create your bull shit mentality.

You continue to not meet perfect standards yet you believe you are perfect. Is that no creating a bull shit reality? LOL fucking stupid.

I myself have unstoppable bullet proof confidence only because the ongoing conscious effort I make at every moment... yes I am completely conscious of what I do and my emotional state... I choose my emotional state..

The only people that should ever be able to hurt you are people you allow... this will be people you date or love(which are often both).

You think sexual slurs, gay, and racism have any power? You are fucking way off.... the only person that can give a person influence over you is you... It's one thing if we are talking about physical pain... if you get beat up for being a race or being gay. However if it is just an insult, you grant that person "power" over you with offense.

Let me use an example from my life. I am Mexican... though I grew up in Cali I now live in predominately white Utah where there is an underlying racism. Have I bean called a beaner? Yup. Have I been called a spic? Yup. I have been called a wetback? Yup.. I got told to go back where I came from... I laughed and said California? I got told I didn't know how to speak proper English because I referred to 2 females as guys... when the plurality of humans is always masculine. Did I give a flying fuck about any of these? NOPE! I am not at all offended by ignorance I don't grant anyone that power over me.

The only person who can control you is you. Other than that you are giving up control of yourself to another person. Fuck, you are so powerless over yourself no wonder why you are constantly obsessed with the power in an interaction.

You have zero self-control everyone else controls... your life sucks dude.

Peace and Love,

Vic[/quote]

I know what I am talking bout son. Like how many good points must I make lol

When did I say confidence is self-esteem? Confidence is what you think you are able to do, your sense of power. Self-esteem is your sense of worthiness, your value. It is quite likely for a guy to think he is worthy of a HB but to not have the confidence to attain her.

I am perfect because I define my own standards of perfection and I meet my standard. Its all relative to what i think not anyone else. Like I said I call girls perfect all the time.

If you think people cannot affect you then you have not lived. You determine what you think about, but your mindset can only influence your emotions so much. That is true and you need to admit that otherwise you're going to get hurt real bad one day emotionally because you refuse to guard yourself emotionally.

That guy that said people are just sensitive is stupid. Racism, Sexism, homophobia is all mental, but its not imaginary.

His old account was called Iwanteasylove and he got banned for troll behavior. He is here again under another name invictus. Don't worry he came two weeks after him(weird enough), same attitude same bullshit... If he advertises this behavior he's going to hurt others badly by making them believe in things that can hurt them badly. Such as allowing someone else to influence how you feel or how you feel about yourself, This isn't fair to others. So not I'm not going to allow him to do this to others.

I can if we are talking about definitions and meanings such as confidence and self-esteem, which are defined.

Dude says he's perfect and you are going to think that he is in the right? Just saying this isn't a good attitude for guys around here. Yeah I am a huge Pease fan... does that mean I have to agree that some fool should be teaching horrible ideals on the forum. No I'm not going to let someone teach younger guys ideals that can ruin their lives and mindset. Sorry he can severely hurt other people by passing this mindset on to others. Another poster and I actually messaged back and forth talking about why we do this.. so that others don't learn a horrible mindset that can hurt them. I am not doing this to help just him but to not hurt others.

Go read the decider thread dude... I was super nice to him... Tried with a shit load of effort to teach this guy by being nice, then mean, then I apologized... different angles... etc. Dude just is too fucking narcissistic to figure it out.. he just isn't smart enough. Hell even after the argument I posted a link to an old ass poster from another pua before our pua time and gave him ideas on how to become the decider.

He wants me to leave him alone well.. he literally has yet to bring up one good point... he's arguing definitions and concepts he doesn't understand and thinks he is brilliant and is bringing on great points... He probably has some brilliant concepts, we all do, but these aren't them and I refuse to allow him to hurt others.

He keeps saying he's bringing up great points but he has yet to bring one rational ideal to his argument. I'm always wrong lol... fuck dude shit is funny.

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This post just makes me mad.

1.) This is troll behavior. Just emotional whinning. You just state the same points again and again. I actually make arguments.

2.) You are not nice. You are condescending and that can never be nice. You do this because you are arrogant and you get satisfaction from impose your opinions on others. You're a bully.

3.) You are hurting people if you refuse to admit people affect you. That is just unrealistic.

4.) I am not narcissitic because I think differently than you. You need to work on yourself because you have controll issues.

5.) Also I wish you would stop slandering me. Invictus. Unconquerable.

This is exactly how I want easy love rebutted.... Weird aye?

Super similar behaviors... super similar mindset... thought perfection... etc.

1.) Troll behavior? I was letting him know why I was arguing with your weak definition.

2.) I am not nice? LOL Oh I am sorry sweetheart... do you need a band aid for your owie? Have you heard kasabi talk to people around her? Talk about mean go read that guy.

3.) Did you not see which type of people I say can hurt you? People you love or date... People you care about not some fucking stranger.

4.) You think the world should bend to your definition how is that not narcissistic? We must redefine it so that you can have high self-esteem.

5.) You are the one who came back here after getting banned...it is super obvious by this point. Same attitude, same type of pictures... large writing just the same to catch attention. Same argumentative concepts that aren't a part of reality. Have to be right... everyone else is wrong. Writing "son"... came 2 weeks after he got banned. Too many coincidences for you not to be the same guy. Same rebuttal style(numbering when you get frustrated) You think it's that hard to figure out?

I don't give a fuck if you're mad. Who cares? How can some guy you don't know who should literally mean nothing to you affect you this much? Why do you care about your anonymous name in some community that is online? This is a sign of ego and low self-esteem by the way.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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-I don't have to be right. My whole point is you don't respect my opinion. You say derogatory things about my mindset and I respond. I always respond when someone says something derogatory about me. I care about respect and my reputation.

-You are not nice because you are condescending. You refuse to accept your opinion is just your opinion.

-Anyone can hurt you because they can point out something negative and credible about you. It hurts because you believe it. Often times your loved one's credibility comes from them simply being loved ones.

-Being sensitive has nothing to do with self-esteem. It comes from a negative outlook on a particular situation. Feeling a shame after being rejected comes from the fact that people think its bad to get rejected. Also it hurts because your not getting what you want.

-Dude you have no life if you're doing of this Sherlock Holmes work. Its like you feel threatened by me. Like you feel you are losing value on the forum.

Point by point, only one person rebuts that way lol

LOL oh man you're priceless... shit is fucking hilarious. I honestly think you have to be trolling at this point... no one can be this ridiculous.

Too many coincidences dude, I have a great memory I remember arguments, behaviors, etc. Sorry that I can remember so well, I apologize for reading people so well.

You changed the way rebutted simply because I said that (numbering)... A sign of guilt. Dude it's not hard.. I've studied basic deception detection (actually a lot more in depth).

Do you think I'm losing value or you? Think about that serious long and hard, don't post... If everyone else says you're full of shit... who is losing value?

Being sensitive to other's perception of you and you losing your own sense of value of yourself does show low self-esteem hence (once again since you are too slow to figure this shit out) the value you place on yourself. Not the value anyone else places on you. The value you place on you if it is high will be high regardless of anyone else that is what high self-esteem is.

LOL wow.... I'm done arguing with this shit... I simply am trying to stop you from hurting anyone. Yes you can hurt people by influencing your thoughts on people if they are like this so please I beg of you stop stating your thoughts... as they are seriously mentally unhealthy.

Peace and Love,

Vic

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You feel threatened by my words because they completely contradict what you think. It's not about others its about your insecurity...your fear that you are wrong. Real talk dawg

Alright I get you, did not know these facts.

If his credibility is that low, than why are you bothering with answering his posts, would you argue with the drunken angry crybaby at the club?

Anyways, respect to you Vic, don´t let the guy get to you.

There r two good points here. But it is a pointless argument between two who are not going to convince each other.

I have an opinion but will not express it because I believe both parties will be hurt by it. Therefore I will desist.

I would have thought the lounge had higher standards of usefulness.

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