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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:47 am 
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I do not have low self-esteem. I am perfect and that in itself should tell you I have high self-esteem if I put all that value on myself. You can decide what you think about, but you are in denial if you think people cannot affect how you feel. I don't know how this will sound too you, but you can know you are the shit but feel like shit because of what has happened to you. Your frame is not the only thing that influences how you feel...experiences, peers, genetics all factor in.
High self-esteem is not telling yourself that you are perfect. I know that I'm not perfect. I make mistakes, because I'm only human. However, being able to admit that is a sign of high self-esteem. I know that I am awesome, but no one is perfect. I have mistakes, but I know that my positive sides outweight those by far, so I can walk around with a lifted head and know that I am the shit. I also know that because I have introspection, I can find and work on my mistakes to become even better.

I have a high self-esteem becuase I know what I am capable of. Not because I see myself as perfect.

If you still don't understand what we're getting at, you're clearly the one in denial.

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High self-esteem is not telling yourself that you are perfect. I know that I'm not perfect. I make mistakes, because I'm only human. However, being able to admit that is a sign of high self-esteem. I know that I am awesome, but no one is perfect. I have mistakes, but I know that my positive sides outweight those by far, so I can walk around with a lifted head and know that I am the shit. I also know that because I have introspection, I can find and work on my mistakes to become even better.

I have a high self-esteem becuase I know what I am capable of. Not because I see myself as perfect.

If you still don't understand what we're getting at, you're clearly the one in denial.
Couldn't explain it better!

The fact is that high-self esteem guys aren't in denial when they have flaws. If a high self-esteem guy KNOWS he made a MISTAKE, he admits it, and moves on. He admits that he made a mistake, and tells that to himself. He doesn't complain about someone else doing sometime so that he eventually made a mistake, no he did that by himself and he admits that. THAT is part of being high self-esteem; You know your good sides and your bad sides, and accept those. I'm roughly 7 months in the game, I can pick up girls pretty good. Am I high self-esteem?

FAR FROM IT. I make mistakes where I think to myself what the hell did I do wrong? Let's say for instance a test from school. I have a bad mark and the rest of the classmates has average or good marks. Would you complain about the teacher not teaching well, or you yourself didn't do enough for it? Usually I would blame the teacher, now I blame myself, because that is within my control.

The fact that girls pick you up is NOT WITHIN YOUR CONTROL. You can't control the action the girls make. All you can do is become something that they are attracted to, but you can't make them wanting you. That's why no method is 100% rejection proof, because not every girl will be interested in you.

Telling yourself that you are perfect means that you can NEVER EVER make a mistake. If you deny the fact that you are not making mistakes, then you are low self-esteem.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 7:45 pm 
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Look you can't accept what I believe and I do not accept what you believe. I have high self-esteem. Everyone gets affected emotionally and that has nothing to do with self-esteem. Nothing.


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Look you can't accept what I believe and I do not accept what you believe. I have high self-esteem. Everyone gets affected emotionally and that has nothing to do with self-esteem. Nothing.

Again just because you say 2+2=5 doesn't mean it's true....

Just because you say the definition of house is a thing that floats on water doesn't change the fact that it is a boat not a house.

Just because you define high self-esteem as perfection doesn't mean you are correct.

Your belief that you can fly doesn't mean you can fly... go jump out of a plane without a parachute it still won't work out.

Your belief that gravity doesn't exist doesn't mean it doesn't.

While you do have a perception that helps influence your reality... reality exists whether you believe it or not.

You can't just start defining shit how you want.... that isn't how it works. You have low self-esteem.... It's fine.

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You confuse confidence, self esteem, and sensitivity. Confidence is what you are able to do, self esteem is what you think you are worthy of, sensitivity is being affected emotionally. You can have high self confidence and low self esteem and not sensitive.

Your definition of self-esteem is relative. It is an opinion. It's your personal choice to label it that way.


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IMO, its a waste of time to get a woman to "pick you up" unless you have money. Men chase/hunt women accept/submit. It's far easier to just talk to them, ask them out than it is to get them to ask you out. Other night I got a # close in 7mins< cold read/built rapport on that. She had world tunned out to her phone, no way she would have talked to me, I passed her twice.

I came her to learn to get women, and in the last year I gotten many numbers from women, but numbers don't always add up to anything. I didn't come here to learn how to get women to pick me up.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 1:56 am 
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IMO, its a waste of time to get a woman to "pick you up" unless you have money. Men chase/hunt women accept/submit. It's far easier to just talk to them, ask them out than it is to get them to ask you out. Other night I got a # close in 7mins< cold read/built rapport on that. She had world tunned out to her phone, no way she would have talked to me, I passed her twice.

I came her to learn to get women, and in the last year I gotten many numbers from women, but numbers don't always add up to anything. I didn't come here to learn how to get women to pick me up.

What you fail to understand is when you hunt the women she has more power. When the women chases you you have more power and so you can have the kind of sex you want to have, you can have the type of relationship you want to have.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:07 am 
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You confuse confidence, self esteem, and sensitivity. Confidence is what you are able to do, self esteem is what you think you are worthy of, sensitivity is being affected emotionally. You can have high self confidence and low self esteem and not sensitive.

Your definition of self-esteem is relative. It is an opinion. It's your personal choice to label it that way.

Stop yelling at me I have low self-esteem I can't get 10s anymore.... I need to cry.... LOL

Definitions aren't relative dude.

There is an entire genre of books on helping people build self-esteem perhaps you should look into one.

Confidence is comfort and value to accomplish a task in area... For instance I bet you are confident talking and walking.

Sensitive people are people that have low self-esteem they are easily influenced by others. High self-esteem is not that dude... Get over yourself you can't create alternate definitions so they fit you and make you high self-esteem.

Here is a self-esteem test... I'll make it easy. Prove me wrong.. Give me your score. I literally scored 100 on this.

http://www.queendom.com/tests/access_pa ... gTest=3105

My results:

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Now show me yours.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 5:38 am 
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You confuse confidence, self esteem, and sensitivity. Confidence is what you are able to do, self esteem is what you think you are worthy of, sensitivity is being affected emotionally. You can have high self confidence and low self esteem and not sensitive.

Your definition of self-esteem is relative. It is an opinion. It's your personal choice to label it that way.

Stop yelling at me I have low self-esteem I can't get 10s anymore.... I need to cry.... LOL

Definitions aren't relative dude.

There is an entire genre of books on helping people build self-esteem perhaps you should look into one.

Confidence is comfort and value to accomplish a task in area... For instance I bet you are confident talking and walking.

Sensitive people are people that have low self-esteem they are easily influenced by others. High self-esteem is not that dude... Get over yourself you can't create alternate definitions so they fit you and make you high self-esteem.

Here is a self-esteem test... I'll make it easy. Prove me wrong.. Give me your score. I literally scored 100 on this.

http://www.queendom.com/tests/access_pa ... gTest=3105

My results:

Image'

Now show me yours.

Peace and Love,

Vic
Your problem is your need for people to accept your personal definition of self-esteem. You refuse to accept there are other definitions of self-esteem than yours and there are good arguments for those definitions. This is why you are not a good thinker, philosophers spend pages simply trying to define a term. You refuse to acknowledge doubt and your arguments lack nuance. Did you go to college?

Confidence is thinking you are able to do something. Self-esteem is thinking you are worthy of something. Yes you may be confident of walking, but you may not feel worthy of walking... ala THE WALK OF SHAME. (another good point lol)

I refuse. You are a control freak and its driving you crazy that I will not do what you want me to do.

Five different dictionaries and five different definitions of confidence:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/confidenc ... Confidence

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/confidence

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/confidence

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/confidence

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... confidence


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You confuse confidence, self esteem, and sensitivity. Confidence is what you are able to do, self esteem is what you think you are worthy of, sensitivity is being affected emotionally. You can have high self confidence and low self esteem and not sensitive.

Your definition of self-esteem is relative. It is an opinion. It's your personal choice to label it that way.

Stop yelling at me I have low self-esteem I can't get 10s anymore.... I need to cry.... LOL

Definitions aren't relative dude.

There is an entire genre of books on helping people build self-esteem perhaps you should look into one.

Confidence is comfort and value to accomplish a task in area... For instance I bet you are confident talking and walking.

Sensitive people are people that have low self-esteem they are easily influenced by others. High self-esteem is not that dude... Get over yourself you can't create alternate definitions so they fit you and make you high self-esteem.

Here is a self-esteem test... I'll make it easy. Prove me wrong.. Give me your score. I literally scored 100 on this.

http://www.queendom.com/tests/access_pa ... gTest=3105

My results:

Image'

Now show me yours.

Peace and Love,

Vic
Your problem is your need for people to accept your personal definition of self-esteem. You refuse to accept there are other definitions of self-esteem than yours and there are good arguments for those definitions. This is why you are not a good thinker, philosophers spend pages simply trying to define a term. You refuse to acknowledge doubt and your arguments lack nuance. Did you go to college?

Confidence is thinking you are able to do something. Self-esteem is thinking you are worthy of something. Yes you may be confident of walking, but you may not feel worthy of walking... ala THE WALK OF SHAME. (another good point lol)

I refuse. You are a control freak and its driving you crazy that I will not do what you want me to do.

Five different dictionaries and five different definitions of confidence:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/confidenc ... Confidence

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/confidence

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/confidence

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/confidence

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... confidence

I'm not going to fight your definition of confidence... but you still can't fight the overall definition of self-esteem keep in mind it isn't my definition. It is the definition lol.

Still waiting for results dude... Prove to me you have high self-esteem.

I'm not a control freak... LOL are you using a forum to gauge my behavior? You need to control the definition of a word... how the fuck does that make sense?

Peace and love,

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[Your problem is your need for people to accept your personal definition of self-esteem. You refuse to accept there are other definitions of self-esteem than yours and there are good arguments for those definitions. This is why you are not a good thinker, philosophers spend pages simply trying to define a term. You refuse to acknowledge doubt and your arguments lack nuance. Did you go to college?

Confidence is thinking you are able to do something. Self-esteem is thinking you are worthy of something. Yes you may be confident of walking, but you may not feel worthy of walking... ala THE WALK OF SHAME. (another good point lol)

I refuse. You are a control freak and its driving you crazy that I will not do what you want me to do.

Five different dictionaries and five different definitions of confidence:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/confidenc ... Confidence

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/confidence

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/confidence

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/confidence

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... confidence

I'm not going to fight your definition of confidence... but you still can't fight the overall definition of self-esteem keep in mind it isn't my definition. It is the definition lol.

Still waiting for results dude... Prove to me you have high self-esteem.

I'm not a control freak... LOL are you using a forum to gauge my behavior? You need to control the definition of a word... how the fuck does that make sense?

Peace and love,

Vic
Different Definitions of Self-esteem

a.) Self-esteem is your overall opinion of yourself — how you honestly feel about your abilities and limitations. When you have healthy self-esteem, you feel good about yourself and see yourself as deserving the respect of others. When you have low self-esteem, you put little value on your opinions and ideas. You might constantly worry that you aren't "good enough." (Mayo Clinic, http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/self-esteem/MH00128 )

b.) Self-esteem is similar to self-worth (how much a person values himself or herself). This can change from day to day or from year to year, but overall self-esteem tends to develop from infancy and keep going until we are adults. Self-esteem also can be defined as feeling capable while also feeling loved. (KidsHealth.org,
http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/f ... steem.html )

c.) SELF-ESTEEM

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: a confidence and satisfaction in oneself : self-respect
(Webster, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-esteem)

d.) Nathaniel Branden in 1969 defined self-esteem as "the experience of being competent to cope with the basic challenges of life and being worthy of happiness."


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Different Definitions of Self-esteem

a.) Self-esteem is your overall opinion of yourself — how you honestly feel about your abilities and limitations. When you have healthy self-esteem, you feel good about yourself and see yourself as deserving the respect of others. When you have low self-esteem, you put little value on your opinions and ideas. You might constantly worry that you aren't "good enough." (Mayo Clinic, http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/self-esteem/MH00128 )

b.) Self-esteem is similar to self-worth (how much a person values himself or herself). This can change from day to day or from year to year, but overall self-esteem tends to develop from infancy and keep going until we are adults. Self-esteem also can be defined as feeling capable while also feeling loved. (KidsHealth.org,
http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/f ... steem.html )

c.) SELF-ESTEEM

1

: a confidence and satisfaction in oneself : self-respect
(Webster, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-esteem)

d.) Nathaniel Branden in 1969 defined self-esteem as "the experience of being competent to cope with the basic challenges of life and being worthy of happiness."

Did you really read the definition and still not get it?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 6:25 am 
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Different Definitions of Self-esteem

a.) Self-esteem is your overall opinion of yourself — how you honestly feel about your abilities and limitations. When you have healthy self-esteem, you feel good about yourself and see yourself as deserving the respect of others. When you have low self-esteem, you put little value on your opinions and ideas. You might constantly worry that you aren't "good enough." (Mayo Clinic, http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/self-esteem/MH00128 )

b.) Self-esteem is similar to self-worth (how much a person values himself or herself). This can change from day to day or from year to year, but overall self-esteem tends to develop from infancy and keep going until we are adults. Self-esteem also can be defined as feeling capable while also feeling loved. (KidsHealth.org,
http://kidshealth.org/parent/emotions/f ... steem.html )

c.) SELF-ESTEEM

1

: a confidence and satisfaction in oneself : self-respect
(Webster, http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/self-esteem)

d.) Nathaniel Branden in 1969 defined self-esteem as "the experience of being competent to cope with the basic challenges of life and being worthy of happiness."

Did you really read the definition and still not get it?

Peace and Love,

Vic
I get that they all differ lol Philosophers write books on just defining one word. You refuse to accept ambiguity, doubts, and relativity involved in defining something and its sad. If you don't respect others you really can't respect yourself.


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Not going to join the little off topic discussion here, rather lets get back on topic.

Vic, I do see what you mean by being the man, having an awesome personality and having a lot of social value. But these things are almost secondary when it comes to being chased by women. The number one factor, in my own experience, is not chasing women. They will then let you know you that they want you in some way. The ones I´ve seen the most is following you and keeping proximity, asking a friend to tell you that they want you and approaching you directly or indirectly.

Usually you can go straight into caressing and foreplay when this happens.

Being detached is the number one factor, having an awesome time is more like the fuel of the intraction.

This is all just my own experience, I can´t say that the same will be true for most people. Therefore I somewhat agree with your statement either you have it or not.

As always, be exellent and party on boys!


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Not going to join the little off topic discussion here, rather lets get back on topic.

Vic, I do see what you mean by being the man, having an awesome personality and having a lot of social value. But these things are almost secondary when it comes to being chased by women. The number one factor, in my own experience, is not chasing women. They will then let you know you that they want you in some way. The ones I´ve seen the most is following you and keeping proximity, asking a friend to tell you that they want you and approaching you directly or indirectly.

Usually you can go straight into caressing and foreplay when this happens.

Being detached is the number one factor, having an awesome time is more like the fuel of the intraction.

This is all just my own experience, I can´t say that the same will be true for most people. Therefore I somewhat agree with your statement either you have it or not.

As always, be exellent and party on boys!
The reason I used to be so slick with girls is simply because of the social value I created in an environment.

Actually I was merely trying to deter guys from thinking they should take the attitude on of being picked up on.

But I truly do think there are some of us who are luckier than others... a good portion (at least a third) of us have the skills to get picked up on.

I don't think you can truly gain enough experience with women without picking up on girls to get successful getting picked up on. So there is no reason to not just start picking up women to begin with then you can gain a social momentum that just snowballs into you going out and getting picked up on more and more.

I do like what I just posted on the Decider thread.

Razorjack Method

His style is all about creating opportunities.

Thanks for re-directing the topic sir!

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