You have single-handedly proven you are a beta, you blindly follow PUAs like a sheep. Peacocking might work on low quality women, but it clearly shows you are desperate for the approval from women eg. "Oh wow, nice goggles!" which is weak childish female behaviour. Mystery himself is known for storming off like a woman when he doesn't get his way and sobbing like a baby in jealous fits of rage, so his techniques are not the holy grail of pickup. His success has more to do with the fact he is 6'5" handsome and confident. He may be a master PUA but his weak diva-like behaviour is not something you should aspire to.

I'm glad to hear you approach aggressively, that's the correct thing to do.

Dude that's just a matter of taste. That's your opinion. It's cool to be flashy and draw the attention of women.

OK bro, you waste your money on a flashy sports car and gold chains. DLV to the max.

Its DHV.

Bling Bling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FnRnKHS5ds

Both of you talking about value got it wrong. If you think you need to demonstrate high value to get a girl, you are admitting the girl is in control and has to decide if you are “worth” sleeping with. Fuck that, she’ll sleep with you because she’s perpetually horny. All women are. They are all trying to fuck guys whenever they can. The only reason we are not all away from our computers in favor of having orgies RIGHT NOW is that douche bags and jealous women criticize the females who are sexually free.

We all want to get laid, and that’s why Pickup isn’t wrong. It would be wrong if you were lying to/manipulating a woman to do something she didn’t want to do. And if you somehow incorporate that into your “game,” you’re a prick. She wants to fuck. Game is only wrong if you believe that women are asexual and don’t’ want to be bouncing on a cock 24/7.

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So, to illustrate your point that being flashy is DHV your evidence is a video with paid models...

Clever skillz bro!

It's pretty much a matter of external and internal value.

External value, is when you have nice cars etc. and use that for value. I'm not going to deny it, if I were able to purchase a lot of friends by buying them expensive stuff, that would be a kind of value. Just a really, really fucked up one.

Internal value, is in short when you have value because you're awesome. Now, InvictusTwo, if you really think nice cars and flashy shit displays value, that explains a lot about the other posts you've made in other threads aswell. You really need to get your shit together man. I'm not saying this to be a dick, but because you need to hear it. You should read up on what true confidence and value is, and look at yourself critically so you may change whatever needs changing. No matter how much you believe it, you are not perfect.

The first time someone calls you a horse you punch him on the nose, the second time someone calls you a horse you call him a jerk, but the third time someone calls you a horse, well then perhaps it's time to go shopping for a saddle.

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I debated whether or not to respond to this b/c I don't want to come across like an asshole.
But you are popping up with a lot of this stuff and I'm going to try to illustrate to you what your issue might be.

Aren't you the guy who weeks ago went on and on and on about being rejected and "was it supposed to hurt" or something? I don't read enough of the forum to know much about you but I do have 2 thoughts;

You are a smart guy.
You are also an extremely annoying guy.

Women do not like annoying guys. Use your intelligence to learn how to stop being annoying. I would imagine you are as annoying to women as you are to the forum.

Maybe we make it look easy.....


Or maybe you are just making excuses..........

This guy is full of shit. There are more than 8 million search engine results for "how to seduce a man blog". This is an example: http://bodyandmindforallwomen.blogspot. ... educe.html

He is just confusing the guys who really need help in this forum through his misinformation, endless whining, and unproductive arguments. I hope this guy gets banned soon for messing up a good PUA forum.

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This is just sad. There is no female PUA community. I have not whinned nor "winced or cried aloud." Nothing I say is misinformation; I have never once lied. I don't start arguments, people start them then I respond. Furthermore, I have never been disrespectful to anyone...people say disrespectful things to me all the time.

I don't know why you don't like me. I don't know why you hate me. I can't believe you would suggest I should be banned. I can't believe it. Just because you don't like me. Just because you don't like me. This is a dirty low down world we live in, but I'll never change.

I personally believe there is no game and this just bunch of bullshit.

All the gurus never reveal where they got there information from...their asses. PUAs are always saying there is no magic word or line to get a girl, you have to just change your life...this is very vague. PUAs are always saying its mindset and charisma...like what the fuck? PUAs are always saying its a numbers game, like who the fuck wants to pick up like a slot machine you see a girl you like then you want her. No one talks in terms of strategies and tactist. No one. The community is a bunch of bullshit.

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LMAO...Well, I've found some strategies that increase your chances of success, but nothing is a guarantee and that bothers me. When I want someone I want them. Furthermore I don't like rejection, I have to much pride for it. But, I don't think pride is a bad thing. It tells you when you are losing value often times.

here is my thougts on some of the stuff i find insane about seduction.
i have met way too many people that get togheter like this... eventually they even marry...
they pretend they don't like each other for months or even years
in my eyes this is a gigantic waste of time on both parts.

i think i understand a bit where InvictusTwo is coming from
I don´t like to pretend lack of interest and what i will try to personally experiment is just going to be at the level of NLP and bodylanguaje.

many men who are succesful at seducing women "naturally" often in my country are said to be "good talkers"
it think unconciously they talk hypnotically , combine it with decent looks and an attitude that pretty much any woman will do and you get a high succes rate.

THE true challenge in my eyes is this - how the hell do you get the girl you want using truth
or at least a higher percentage of truth.

in some cases why go trough another 10 20 30 women that you really don't wanted nor really fully enjoyed to eventually (in some cases) end up wih the intended one.

I think that it comes down to this, a woman that sees a guy bend over for her thinks he is way too easy -
something might be wrong with him to be so needy, why focus on me when there are so many others that are better than me. (in the case of low self steem gals) he must be desperate and i´m his last chance.
I´ll go for this alpha guy, he can have any woman but i will be special to him.

and in the case of girls with high self steem is that no man is good enough for them and wait for Mr right.
in the way they make many , many mistakes, most common - they will try and change an alpha in to a faithful loyal man.

And me as a weird weird man, i think pretty much similar...
if a beautiful woman comes up to me at a club, i feel very suspicios. Why the hell would she have me ?
she might have an STD, (in my country) she is part of a kidnapping ring, or definetely a 1 night slut.

problem is , women i want are beautiful, but are attracted to the alpha males. Or the guys that "seem to be alphas" or settle for the illusion of stability
I'm not an alpha male, alphas are sociable and leaders and mostly physically fit.
i'm not beta neither, since i'm not a follower, physically weak and comforming.

if we think in terms of a wolf pack - i'm like the lone wolf, and i look forward to have a pack of my own.
so , like the "alpha female" i reject betas & want to change an alpha to a beta because let´s face it , a lone she-wolf is just as rare.

AMEN!

Thank you Hellhound!

Peace and Love,

Vic

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