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PostPosted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 5:02 pm 
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I'm white European and I married a Brazilian woman who genetically is a mix of indigenous Brazilian and Italian. Don't let your mindset hold you back. I know an Indian guy who dated a HB10 White Brazilian girl...and she loved him so much! There will always be people who will prefer certain races but you can defeat that with a confident frame.

Or just move to brazil lol...Inter race relationships are seen as the normal thing to do! It's a complete melting pot of cultures and races. It's why the women are looking so good! You have German, Italian, Portuguese, African, Japanese and Native Brazilian all mixing their genes!
wait, an Indian (India) guy with a really hot Brazilian girl? dang dude, what did he do for a living?

He was just a student and he was a twat! However he did have game!
here I was thinking most brazilian women loved white men with some loving black men, nothing inbetween but congrats to him

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anyways I need to ask you, I know most women will prefer White men but was there ever a time when you felt and actually experienced women taking a black man over you mostly because he is black?

I have dated girls who were White but said they would never get with a Black man yet they were happy to get with me. Then again, this is the USA and it is the deep south.
Most people have their own sexual reference and stereotypes based on how they were raised. No woman would be the same. However, most of the women I met that weren't into black guys because of the hygiene and social intelligence. Not every black guy is like that, but it's the general stereotype. I've also met some women that would jump into bed with black guy if given a chance because they wanted to try something new or just simply a big cock. Again, that is their sexual references, you have no control over it.

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moving post man, read it twice

anyways I need to ask you, I know most women will prefer White men but was there ever a time when you felt and actually experienced women taking a black man over you mostly because he is black?

I have dated girls who were White but said they would never get with a Black man yet they were happy to get with me. Then again, this is the USA and it is the deep south.
Most people have their own sexual reference and stereotypes based on how they were raised. No woman would be the same. However, most of the women I met that weren't into black guys because of the hygiene and social intelligence. Not every black guy is like that, but it's the general stereotype. I've also met some women that would jump into bed with black guy if given a chance because they wanted to try something new or just simply a big cock. Again, that is their sexual references, you have no control over it.
It seems like pornography and internet have brainwashed me into believing that Black men are at the top of the totem pole when it comes to hooking up with attractive women. Don't mean to bash but I have met some groups of girls (Eastern European, Middle Eastern, and Southern European) who aren't attracted to them and would never date them at all. Like I was with this Italian brunette who had somewhat of a Latina look to her and she would get approached by decent looking Black men, a lot, and she would end up rejecting them.

Unfortunately, I was too big of a beta male back then to make a move on her and she ended up with this European guy but I knew I could have hit it.

As for my real life experience, despite what PUA forums might say, I have the feeling to almost state that in many situations, being an Indian guy is a blessing. Like here in the south, women who want to taste something different but don't want to date Black men will almost always run inbetween. Even in my old town I started to see so many Asian, Arabic, and Hispanic dudes hooking up with cute brunettes and cute gingers.

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I wouldn't have such a limited or heavy belief on race like that. In the end, no matter which race we are, we're all human with flesh and blood. What women seek isn't always about the physical appearance or social status like us men do, rather they seek for certain emotions or the way a man can make them feel. As long as you can get them into that state or emotion, you're wining the race. The most common three things they're looking for is the feeling of safe and secured (this is where alpha males come in), joy and excitement (humor, fun and adventurous personality), sex and romance ( in this case, AFCs usually lack of guts to make sexual advance and jerks usually can't provide the sensual and romantic aspect of a relationship, so finding a balance between those is crucial)

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what belief are you talking about?

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 10:44 pm 
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gotta put in one thing, GINGERS FREAKIN LOVE US!

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seems like I still think about this from time to time

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I am an indian. Pure Fucking Desi Indian. Spent 11 years of my teenage life in a fuckin village where they can't even supply Electricity all Day. I am as Indian as it gets.

Now lemme tell you something my brother, I have fucked only white girls since i am here.

and there was only one girl who seemed to be racist.

Ok, i m gonna give you the MAGIC KEY here. This is the only thing you need to lose any racist attitude towards you and only this will work.

LEARN AND USE THE AMERICAN ACCENT WHEN YOU SPEAK TO GIRLS.

there are online courses, there are in-person courses for as little as 150 dollars.

and this is coming from experience of a brown indian guy.

Other reasons i think not important that i suggest will contribute are

1. Shave your head and if it looks alright then keep that style, it helps loose the indian look. if you have great hair then its alright.

2. Use a good cologne.

3. dress neat and your size. don't wear football jerseys.

4. if you have excess body hair, shave it. little body hair no problem.

5. go to a fuckin gym and the key is a nice firm butt, trust me when i say that. you wanna be a bodybuilder, be that. wanna be a player, work your abs, butt and legs. don't totally ignore the chest and biceps tho.

That's all i hope it helped, and listen it doesnt matter wat color you are, just learn the accent and that makes the chicks feel comfortable.


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and bdw, i fucked a white girl once who told me that she never did a black guy and only dates white and light skinned hispanic guys. I am dark. Infact, she was so uncomfortable with my color, she walked out on me once. That same girl was sucking my dark indian dick 3 weeks later in her bedroom. its not about color boy, it never is. That was the most succesful example i can give you from my experience in regard to what your problem is.

I hope it helps.


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great story bro and congrats, but I am not an FOB

I sound American and everything

people tell me I don't even look Indian and when I put my picture up everyone kept saying latino or middle eastern

but, I don't wanna lie to girls and tell them the wrong thing about my race

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You got the answer to your question multiple times here. An attractive person is attractive regardless of race , and if you possess the right traits , your colour won't mean SHIT. I'm middle eastern and I've been with many girls of different races . It's all ion your head, you create your reality , and if you believe your skin colour determines you success , then that's how your life will unfold. Who said a white girl girl for eg, is so fuckin special that you don't even have a chance ? We're all human, same shit regardless of race.

I have a middle eastern friend that was born with a deformed face , is short an walks with a limp. This motherfucker is so outgoing and confident that he's had multiple girls from many races . You forget there's anything wrong with him, why? Because he believes there is nothing wrong! So get that shit out your head that black or white is superior in any way , its ALL in your head.


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My god how many race threads have you made.

I'm middle eastern myself, went to budapest last summer pulled a local from the club got v intimate but didn't quite make the SNL.

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you went to Budapest?

any good ideas on where to go there?

I am going there this summer and I have heard it is h3ll for Brown people because we get confused for gypsies apparently. My fear made me miss a trip to Sweden but I am definitely going to go to Hungary for the sake of traveling.

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you guys are right, I have beaten this dead horse quite a lot

growing up I only saw Black and White men dating interracial and on the internet that is what I heard as well. Like I have had some success myself but there are days (though rare) in which I feel like an Indian, Hispanic, Asian, or any guy that isn't Black or White has a tough time marketing himself.

Like how Black men are loved in Germany and White men are loved in Latin America, I often wonder if there are places where a man that isn't a part of either of those races can get bonus points or a lift for looking the way he does. I mean it is better than it used to be for me since I have had success in the US but this insecurity still houses itself in my mind at times.

Maybe it is because I never hear that many men of other races sharing their success in hooking up with girls in other countries so I tend to question if America and Canada are the only places advanced enough.

I have grown into a fear of traveling, hopefully going to Hungary isn't as bad as it seems.

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you went to Budapest?

any good ideas on where to go there?

I am going there this summer and I have heard it is h3ll for Brown people because we get confused for gypsies apparently. My fear made me miss a trip to Sweden but I am definitely going to go to Hungary for the sake of traveling.
A place called "morrisions 2" is really cool, like massive open bar with a dancefloor underground and a cool balcony (for isolation).
As well as me (arab), two indians were part if the group. We socialized a lot I almost layed a local, one indian k closed a local and the other k closed a tourist. No racism was encountered tho obviously I can't guarantee it.


Only weak thing is a lot of locals don't speak the language, so you'll likely crash and burn with those. So for most fun times, try other tourists and find young locals that speak the language. The place is a bit of a mind fuck in the sense the average young woman is our 7/8!! think how much that skews the normal distribution!


+ in fact I wrote this last summer, feels odd reading it, but here is my FR
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Adventures in Eastern Europe, I was there for four nights with L and a few other guy mates and yes it's true it's not just a stereotype the women are ridiculously hot, almost every young woman is in shape and perhaps to estimate on average each woman +1.5 to the UK. Would definitely recommend going, very fun unique place that was v different from anything I've seen before.

I'm general, my game is tightening massively. The majority of sets are hooking and attraction is looking obvious in many cases. Plus I've been able to blow almost any new guy out, with confidence, strong frame and energy levels extremely easy. I've been making a point to always escalate + isolate so it now feels very natural. However I definitely have not got the sexual threat/ full closing skills part down at all and it's getting a little frustrating. Have a look through the FR to help me sort out this sticking point.


Fr++: ASD prevents the lay. Again...

So the field was an open bar on the top level and a darker bar + dance floor on the bottom. Since the last Hb, is the one I'm focussing on I'll keep the rest brief and to try to maximise replies to this.
Because it was Saturday ( weekdays had more tourists) most people were native speakers. We pretty much got blown out of every non English speaking set, so we do our usual thing of building momentum and having some fun amusing conversations. My first good set was a native who spoke decent English. Went reasonably well, L wasn't yet in the right mind frame to actively pursue his target. I isolated to the bar and then to dance floor. Felt a bit of fear but I knew I had to go for it, if not for her but the next girl. So I burnt the first good set to ground by touching then going for k-close. She told me she had a boyfriend in the army abroad, she still stuck around and seemed attracted but I'm not going to be that guy who breaks up relationships. Even though it didn't happen making sure I pulled the trigger definitely set the precedent for later tonight.

We keep going again, L is now in top mode after a bit more momentum. ... I'll skip over a few sets here because it's not really Important. Then I see a 3 set (HBtall, HBblonde, HBredhead) locals but they speak good English.
I approach, they aren't green straight away they give me a few frame/shit tests but it's fine and they warm up quite quickly, I signal L to come in. He chats to HBtall, I am with the redhead and blonde. Decide to have HBrh as the target, I'm Interacting with both well (about 15 mins, but I'm shoulder to shoulder with HBrh and pay her slightly more attention. I then reach down (with subtelty for obvious reasons) and take her hand by the side, she reciprocates touching, it's ON. They go inside to the dance floor, L cba with HBtall and finds some new targets. I isolate on the dance floor and escalate a bit more physically there. I then take to a quiet isolation point on a balcony.

Heavy seductive vibes are going on here we are v close and talking slowly. I go for the k-close
HBrh: I'm not that easy.
Obviously it's only token resistance/asd so I smile leave it for 1 minute, second time it works fine. [should this have been a red flag as to what was to come? I.E in future should I find a new target if it takes all that effort to get one kiss?] After a few mins:

Radar01: let's go outside for a walk.
HBrh: (shy) why?
Radar01: (hold tension)...(smile)... let's go.
HBrh: Ok I'll tell my friends I'm leaving.

My hearts pounds hard, for the first time in a pick-up in a while probably shows I'm breaking into new territory.

Bump into L before I leave he's very excited that I may be getting my first cold approach fuck. He says it's on for him with a milf (lol).

I think I'm doing well up to this point but I think I butcher it up from here. It's a long time period of time from this point, so I don't remember all the details.

We leave together (at this point it's about 30-40 mins of the interaction). We are hand in hand or arm over the shoulder for about an hour walking, after it's officially on I've found conversation is very comfortable and easy since pressure seems slightly off. I spend most of this time building a connection half the time it's fun half the time it's a deeper link. [Should I have focused more on sex itself!?/ done something more sexual theat like?]

We arrive by my hotel. Heart beats again.

Radar01: You should come up and listen to *band we like].
HBrh: I can't go there... With you.
Radar01: We are both adults, we will only do what we are comfortable with. (credit 60 yoc).

But no bacon, so we walk past and I say let's grab a seat. We talk a bit more, a makeout that gets a bit more intense, she kisses my neck for a while, I caress her ass. At this point I try using some sexual threat stuff (with little previous experience so I'm probably a bit uncalibrated) 'I'm usually a gentlemen but look what you've done to me'. Put her hand on my crotch etc.

At one point she says " I'm surprised you haven't gone further with me" this was one mind fuck of a comment. I replied with " Well I did invite you to my room" but was this a shit test or what?

HBrh: you're supposed to be enjoying the city, look around you?
Radar01: It's kind of hard to concentrate with a hard on.
HBrh: giggle giggle.

I persisted a few more times and walked a bit further. But about 3 hours in I called it quits and kissed her goodbye. I may have possibly killed the sexual tension by kissing far too much.

I tried to convince myself and L that she just wasn't at all DTF but in reality a better closer probably could have sealed the deal.

Dealing with this amount of ASD/LMR and not pulling through is so mentally draining ; I must be better prepared next time. I'm pretty sick of having to write FR++ instead of LR , getting so close just feels like I need to nail the last step that bit better before the lays start rolling in. Help and clarification of this part would help me so much.

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