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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:17 pm 
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There are times when we get the number, go out and have great times, but then there is no responce from girl in terms of making day 2.
There can also be a situation, when we do go along in person, but then she doesnt txt us or doesnt respond on txts or she doesnt start a conversation even there were a lot of IOIs in person.

What can be done to prevent or take advantage of such situation or is it better to do nothing, and wait for her?
I think everyone have had such a situation- what did you do?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:22 pm 
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Those are called flakes. It's just something women do.

My pre-emptive solution to that is to spend as much time in the set while you can, and don't focus on the number close. The girl needs to be impressed by you and remember you so you need to treat it like you are on the first date the moment you open the set. Go for the k-close and even f-close if you can. Try to get an insta-date too. Getting her number and telling yourself that you'll call her tomorrow to arrange a date is like the guy sitting on the couch telling his parents he'll go looking for jobs tomorrow. Either you do it right now or the rest of it really doesn't matter.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:14 am 
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Those are called flakes. It's just something women do.

My pre-emptive solution to that is to spend as much time in the set while you can, and don't focus on the number close. The girl needs to be impressed by you and remember you so you need to treat it like you are on the first date the moment you open the set. Go for the k-close and even f-close if you can. Try to get an insta-date too. Getting her number and telling yourself that you'll call her tomorrow to arrange a date is like the guy sitting on the couch telling his parents he'll go looking for jobs tomorrow. Either you do it right now or the rest of it really doesn't matter.
How many times (%) did you k-closed and or f-closed a girl you were interesred that way?
What if you already number closed - what can be done then?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 28, 2012 8:17 pm 
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It depends on what you mean first contact? or first date?

When you first meet a girl and get her number you have about 2 to 5 mins to make a lasting impression on her...chances are if she is decently good looking to very good looking (hb7 to 10) she will give her number to at least a couple guys that night. What seems to work for me? 1# eye contact!! I don't budge on this one! you need to flirt with you eyes and if you can do this properly it will make a girl melt! I usually have a smirk on my face and look at her like "If all these people were not around you and I would be going at it" and it works well! 2# Tonality and confidence...I am unwavered by a women! If she throws me off with an odd question I take my time to answer and look her dead in the eyes...a women can blow me completely out and I will talk away looking like I just won the lottery either way lol and 9 times our of 10 when I see her again later in the night I get her number. 3# Leave her with something, leave her with something you share in common, or an interesting fact about you self, something that you can play on when you text her the next day, it much easier to start up a convo this way and it builds comfort.

If you are talking about the first meet up your goal should simply be to build attraction, and show value IMO. Make a girl laugh, have fun and show her that your fucking fun, and ballsy enough to flirt, 9/10 times you will have her eating out of the palm of your hand! Self amusement is the to key to this...don't worry so much about her having a good time as much as you having a good time...if she doesn't enjoy her self ditch her and move on.

I would guess if you are not getting a good response perhaps you are sending off bad energy? and not creating enough or any attraction? Sometimes how we view our self is not how we actually come across so look into things such as body language, tonality, eye contact, how you dress, how your breath smells, the words you say (are you coming off beta) it could be a number of things. IMO dropping ego and using self ammusement is the way to go! It not easy to master but it makes thing much easier!


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 3:27 pm 
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What if everything went great, you are great but girl still doesn't start a conversation and is always flaking- how long do you wait to ask her out again?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 6:26 pm 
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My pre-emptive solution to that is to spend as much time in the set while you can
I did not read all the posts, but this is the best way to avoid flaking.

As for your question, when you should give up, cut all the pua bulshit and ask her yes/no question. "I wanna see you tomorrow night" and you will easily see if she wants to see you or not.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:12 pm 
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My best closes are ones in which:

-I have direct and strong eye contact
- I make her laugh
- I touch her physicaly in a genuine way and lead (I find it shows you are not intimidated by women): spin her around, grab her hand, lightly push her, give her high five ect...
-Leave her with something interesting or nick name
- exit before things get boring and you seem clingy

You only have a couple minutes to show who you are as a person and make a good impression, you have to stand out, most guys will walk up and tell a girl "Hi how are you? where you from, your pretty" and then leave, maybe get a number out of putty...you might get the odd natural who is able to spark her interest and get her turned on but usually its a guy who knows nothing!

This is an example of a set I had the other night, It was not scripted at all! It just went super smooth and I went with it:

Me: "Hey! your cute whats your name" direct eye contact
Me: "Let me ask your option about something, I want to change my hair up I need a women opinion shave or grow it out"
Her: Grow it out! your hair looks good!
Me: "wow good in site! you seem like a really cool girl...but I could be wrong? plus what If you have poor fashion sense and your wrong?"
Her: "Omg what ever I have amazing fashion sense"
Me: Give me your hand (spin her around) "Ok your right its pretty good, I like the shoes"
Me: You can be my fashion consultant, I'l call you fashion girl
Her: haha Ok
Me: I'l tell you what fashion girl I have to get back to my friends but give me your number and we will discuss this more over drinks
(Number close)
Me: I'l talk to you in a bit, we will see more of each other tonight
Her: (Smiles) ok

This took me maybe 2 mins...it was enough time to get the number and show my personality. Later that night I made out with the girl, and could have taken her home I'm sure of it but had no place to go.

You have to push things a bit, get in her space a bit, try things out, show her your personality....some shit won't work, you will try stuff that bombs! and then other stuff will work like a charm! try one new thing ever night when you go out.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 7:40 pm 
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Here is a great video on how to push things physically with a girl. Most guys biggest obstacle is getting physical and showing the girl their intent, they open the girl, they start a great conversation, but then they get lose...I'l admit that getting physical was my biggest sticking point! I think its because we were all raised to think that women are these angelic creatures who don't want to be talked to sexually or made out with on the dance floor...we start making excuses in our head like "shes not that kind of girl" haha

My eye opener was when I was gaming the "good girl" of the group, she was a very pretty girl, every one told me how she was a prude, how she would never put out, how she was shy ect ect ect....I spent the night gaming this girl, at the end of the night her friends and her came back to my budies place for drink, I started getting tired of this girl because all night she has been super conservative!!!! had her coat on, her arms crossed and I thought to my self "this girl is a good girl she's not like the others" I was getting ready to leave and ditch her when something in my head said "just go for it, see what happens" I literally grabbed her hand, ripped her coat off, and started making out with her...I honestly thought she would slap me but to my suprise she was all over me! haha I was in shock!! she was in my pants within 2 mins and this was a girl who 5 mins ago I thought wanted nothing to do with me because I was to wild for her haha

any way here is a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKoT67zx_lQ


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