So some girls have rejected me during online game and regular game and it's messing with my self-confidence. Like their comments stick in my head, they were very shallow and mean, like one girl said "You look like an effing alien," and another said, "Yikes! So not my type" or something like that.

On the other hand, I got some dates from online game but not like the intensely hot girls, just average looking girls, and it makes me feel as a man I'm inept at getting hot girls.

Yet, ppl say I look like Johnny depp, or I'll get numbers and IOI's (not dates) from girls but that would count on the positive side of feedback. So my point is, idk what to think of myself, the girls that hv complimented me weren't like 10's, because of that, or lack of attention from attractive girls and harsh rejection it messes with my mindset and confidence - like a negative voice in the back of my mind. Like if I'm unattractive why fake it.

P.S. Do attractive girls never give you guys compliments or IOI's until you approach/are they just naturally hard to get and pay no attention to you or are they just like that with me.

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You shouln't take what they say seriously... They don't know you so they missing out on what you can offer.
I had the same problem when i was first going out.. I had girls yell ewwl across the room and at times i was to self concious about what they said to me.. with time as soonest they started acting bitchy i would ignore them and not let them finish what they had to say. Making them look stupid..
10's do compliment guys, i had multiple of them compliment on me but they don't do it right away.. it took me time to get to know them first and as i created a connection with them in a deep level they felt confortable and they just complemented me on how funny i am, or my clothes, ect...
also don't think of what they say seriously in many cases its a way to filter needy guys from real men.
and your reaction to those words will let them know. so dont be reactive. just ignore them and keep talking to them or just look at her like if she is on drugs or something.

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But BECAUSE the unattractive fielding me attention instead of the attractive girls is very depressing and discouraging - it makes me think I'm unattractive.

I don't know what to think of myself, I don't want to lie to myself.

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I am not the hottest guy out there but I get my attraction spikes going with the hb 9's( I don't believe in 10's). I deserve what I deserve and brush off any negative comments if there were to be any (usually I don't receive, because my frame is pretty strong). Just keep working on your inner game and your appearance, such as style and working out. That is all you can realistically do if you really are unnattractive by society's standards.


The man who faces the most rejection will come out on top at the end of the day compared to those who protect their egos. I personally enjoy my rejections. I once made it a show and enjoyed getting blown out once and was actually very amused by how determined the girl was to destroy me. At the end of the day I slept like a baby lol.

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You have to first be honest with yourself, otherwise you'll expect things that will never happen. Many guys aren't great looking, that's just how it is. Women are like men in the sense that they want to be with really hot members of the opposite sex. If you are average or below average in looks, do you really expect that hb9s and 10s will be coming on to you and complimenting you on your looks? Be realistic.

This girl on pof told this guy "You look like a broke down Stephen King. Do you use chloroform first, or just go straight for the rape?" It's not very hard to trash someone based on their looks. I could sit there and make fun of ugly chubby women all day long, but that's not the type of person I want to be. I wouldn't like it if someone made fun of me when it comes to the things about myself that I am self-conscious about. But there are mean people out there, you just have to learn to ignore them.

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Meh thats women for you. All of them have a bitchy side even the cute lil ones that act all shy and innocent and all girls will find something wrong with a man because thats what they do...they nitpick. I personally aim for girls that have these little things wrong with them because thats what makes a person what they are, the things that are good about them and the things that are bad.

My main tip is to let rejection build your inner game. Get used to rejection and you can approach any girl. They'll thank you for the confidence you show.

ANyway if you really want to "stand up to" these girls then I always steal the classic Perry Cox routine from Scrubs.

Her: Oh your such a minger,blahblahblah You need to sort your haiir out, who
*cut them off*
Me: Woah hey there, if the next thing out of your mouth isn't a tiny bit interesting then I might as well walk away because that hairline of your is making my eyes go blurry.
*lean in*
Me: by the way, big tip. Hide those extensions next time. (Got told to say this to some bitchy "up her arse" girl by my bitchy friend. GIrl spent the rest of the night sulking and going to the toilet)

Then just walk away.

Basically if a girl insults your image and you don't care about shagging her/knowing her then just insult her back, walk away and get with a girl who wants it. Simple.

Man its just your approaches, never take it personally, always look at the humorous side of it, and remember there are plenty more fish in the sea. Sometimes people are just dicks and let them stew in their own hate and malice. Don't worry brother we all get rejected and treated badly at times, just how you act on it is what is important.

Well guys thanks a lot for the hlp and advice. I think this is one area that guys handle better than girls. If a guy doesn't like a guy, she'll offend them. But if an unnattractive girls hits on me I won't say, "Get away your fat and ugly" NEVER. Like ninja mentioned, that's not what I'm about.

Here's why I think the way I do: when I was on school I was always made fun of for being fat, no one ever talked to me and ppl always talked behind my back. Eventually I lost it all and look like a complete different person. BUT I STILL THINK THE SAME WAY

Another girl on okc (not a 10 but is a lawyer and high valued) said, that I'm cute and I'm her type and she texted me a lot (See my recent post for convo). Other girls call me handsome all the time, and ppl come up to me and say I look like Johnny Depp.

But the thing is, I've never been with a 7 - 9, or really never approached them or a really attractive girl never gave me IOI's (than again I don't go out as much) I FEEL THAT I CAN'T GET HOT GIRLS. What do I do?

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Ok, let's be honest and reasonable. You are probably an average looking guy with average game. If you were really great with women you wouldn't be here asking all these questions. That being said, we have to be realistic. Are you likely to land a 9 or 10 anytime soon, probably not. But a 7 or 8, that's perfectly attainable with average looks and average game. That's not to say that hotter girls aren't possible, but you're more likely to be blown out by them than you are the others.

But the main limiting factor, aside from your own negative beliefs in how you perceive yourself, is the fact that you aren't opening very many girls. If all you opened was nothing but 10s, then I bet eventually you'd land a 10. The point is that whichever type of girl you want, you have to go for them and keep sarging and keep opening them. If you only think that 7s are within your grasp, that's fine....but you then need to go out and sarge a bunch of 7s!

I'll talk to 9s and 10s on occassion, get iod's or blown the fuck out, and then I'll go back to sarging girls I feel like I'd have a better chance with. Some pua's would say I'm selling myself short, but that doesn't really matter because at least I'm selling SOMETHING. As long as I get results then I am at least happy with myself at the end of the day.

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This is all correct for the age range of about 18-28 maybe 30 when people ACTUALLY grow up (compared to the fake university growing up.)

You'll find at 30+ women will stop seeking out the bad boys or whatever and start looking for comfortability and a man that can actually provide for her and her future lifestyle (most likely kids.) They will also at this age become less shallow and will want more cuddles/kissing then actual sex.

This is why you you see HB10 milfs living with men that aren't their equals physical wise but are either more then a match for them intelligence or money wise or as one of my friends mothers put it "My husband has always been there for me even through all the bad times even when I didn't ask him to, he knows when I need someone" and this guy was fucking weird looking muthafucka.

Just my 2 cents

Ninja,

Very true - I think that's a very logical and reasonable answer. I mean, I feel that I'm attracted to less attractive girls and I don't want that. I want to bring attractive girls in my life. I have a different view from most guys, I think that 10's are too high maintenance and vain, materialistic people, don't really have a sense of humor. Maybe some do, some don't but I'd say the majority of them are so.

Maybe this might help you out, I'm trying to overcome social anxiety, and recently I'm doing MUCH better and I'm just going places and joking around making people laugh and I'm getting more comfortable around girls. Like at a store, I made 3 girls laugh out loud,negging one saying, "I'm not talking to you" cuz she was trying to take my order (earlier she made a friendly joke about my glasses) they were all laughing. I'm just getting more comfortable with ppl and I'm trying to build confidence I only recently tried to get serious about game so is this current situation I'm in normal? Like I'm getting better though in a few days I got a day with a cute girl, not extremely hot but very smart and optimisti.

How can I get extremely tight game so I can get hotter girls?

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