So I did a search on this forum and read some old threads about eye contact.

to me, locking eyes = staring, and staring is bad, creepy, etc.

I dont get it. isn't locking eyes the exact same thing as staring? And isn't staring for losers who have no balls?

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No.... when you talk to a girl look her in her eyes...

I am talking about making the first connection. Imagine you are in an elevator with a bunch of people. there is this cute girl across from you. how do you make the first connection? isn't the standard advice given here to lock eyes and never break eye contact? or did i misunderstand?

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Well it depends. If you catch her looking at you and then you make eye contact i don't see what's wrong with smiling and just saying, "hi" but if you're just sitting there staring at her then she catches u looking...kinda awkward. just smile either way. for me im kind of shy so i would kind of do a double take...if i caught her looking at me i would make eye contact for a split second then look at something else then look back at her eyes and if shes still looking ill smile and say hey

Don't put too much thoughts into it. If you find it hard or awkward to maintain eye contacts, do this exercise. Trying to imagine in your head what you want to tell her in your head while looking into her eyes. Believe it or not, the eye expression can replace all the meaningless words, she would be able to understand what you're trying to convey. Another way to do it is doing triangle gaze, it goes one eye, lips, then the other eye, this will prime you for the kiss also. She will notice it.

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Um... kinda confused here. What situations exist where you make eye contact and aren't headed on your way over to talk to her?

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I dont know, that's why I am confused too.
I guess for example: you are in an elevator, there is this cute girl and there are also other people, so you dont really want to talk. but you want to show confidence and convey that you are interested?

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How in the hell would you game a girl in a crowded elevator? Shout "You're really hot, can you yell your number to me!!!?". I mean you're in there for what, a minute at most, assuming you're at the top/bottom and headed in the opposite direction for multiple floors.

If you were to try, I see no time for extended eye contact. You'd have to shove your way over to her, but then I'm lost how to open her. With such a small time window, opening direct is a must, but there's an audience. Meaning almost no chance that she responds in the affirmative, even if she's into you. I can't think of any practical situation where this extended eye contact thing matters.

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Catch her eye, smile and say hi/hey.

You should keep eye contact during a conversation. You're showing her that you're paying complete attention only to her, and nothing else.
Both of you won't keep eye contact. Eye contact entails looking into her eyes, not at her eyes. It requires for her to be looking back at you, or in some way interacting with you. If she is standing there minding her own business, you should mind your own business OR talk to her if you want to. Once you're talking, then keep eye contact.
If she randomly looks at you before you're talking, look at her and give her a smile. See how she reacts and spark up a conversation.
You should be conveying confidence through eye contact in interactions. If you're not interacting, other social cues should be conveying that confidence instead. (posture, how you're dressed, smiling, etc.)

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Make confident and slightly mischievous eye contact with a half smile half smirk, that useaully works best for me, taking your time when you speak indicates value and keeps girls hooked, its just as important.

Eye Contact is a crucial part of escalation. It all starts with deep seductive eye-contact. It's not staring. You are looking into her and she is looking into you. There is something mutual that you both feel. It's the first way of connecting.