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Hey man. Want to chip in for a few things here. Take it with a grain of salt.

Approach anxiety never goes away. The sooner you realize this the better. I promise you it doesn't go away, maybe the degree to which you feel it goes down. Some days you will be so in state and in such a good mood that you just say fuck it. But over the long run it will accompany you. Difference between us and the average person is we take action and jump over our approach anxiety.

You're setting yourself goals. That's good. But know that the end result does not matter. You should only focus on gradually increasing your goals. Approach 5. Now approach 10. If you get frustrated by approaching 8/10 then you are outcome dependent. How about actually approaching those girls that you find are attractive and worthy, instead of trying to hit a certain number of approaches. This isn't about doing so and so many approaches. It's getting to know a girl and building a connection with her and having sex with her. One at a time.

Stay strong in your intent when you talk to her. When you walk up to her know what you want and go for it, don't succumb to anything she says or does, just focus on your intention, i.e Get to know her. If she doesn't play along, keep going with your intent. She'll either come around or she won't. You can't change her behavior just like that. The only way she'll change her behavior is if you stay strong in what you want.

Have fun. I noticed in you final post you just went out to have fun. You said you lacke motivation to approach. Guess what? Everyone goes through this phase. At one point we all go "FUCK THIS, let me just have fun." Now you will realize that approaches aren't shit, and that you will ONLY approach those girls that you WANT to approach.

Keep going out, keep doing what you're doing. It's great.

Good luck man.


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Hey man. Want to chip in for a few things here. Take it with a grain of salt.

Approach anxiety never goes away. The sooner you realize this the better. I promise you it doesn't go away, maybe the degree to which you feel it goes down. Some days you will be so in state and in such a good mood that you just say fuck it. But over the long run it will accompany you. Difference between us and the average person is we take action and jump over our approach anxiety.

You're setting yourself goals. That's good. But know that the end result does not matter. You should only focus on gradually increasing your goals. Approach 5. Now approach 10. If you get frustrated by approaching 8/10 then you are outcome dependent. How about actually approaching those girls that you find are attractive and worthy, instead of trying to hit a certain number of approaches. This isn't about doing so and so many approaches. It's getting to know a girl and building a connection with her and having sex with her. One at a time.

Stay strong in your intent when you talk to her. When you walk up to her know what you want and go for it, don't succumb to anything she says or does, just focus on your intention, i.e Get to know her. If she doesn't play along, keep going with your intent. She'll either come around or she won't. You can't change her behavior just like that. The only way she'll change her behavior is if you stay strong in what you want.

Have fun. I noticed in you final post you just went out to have fun. You said you lacke motivation to approach. Guess what? Everyone goes through this phase. At one point we all go "FUCK THIS, let me just have fun." Now you will realize that approaches aren't shit, and that you will ONLY approach those girls that you WANT to approach.

Keep going out, keep doing what you're doing. It's great.

Good luck man.
^ i pm him something similar, he is putting too much pressure on himself, is not good..

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Hey man. Want to chip in for a few things here. Take it with a grain of salt.

Approach anxiety never goes away. The sooner you realize this the better. I promise you it doesn't go away, maybe the degree to which you feel it goes down. Some days you will be so in state and in such a good mood that you just say fuck it. But over the long run it will accompany you. Difference between us and the average person is we take action and jump over our approach anxiety.

You're setting yourself goals. That's good. But know that the end result does not matter. You should only focus on gradually increasing your goals. Approach 5. Now approach 10. If you get frustrated by approaching 8/10 then you are outcome dependent. How about actually approaching those girls that you find are attractive and worthy, instead of trying to hit a certain number of approaches. This isn't about doing so and so many approaches. It's getting to know a girl and building a connection with her and having sex with her. One at a time.

Stay strong in your intent when you talk to her. When you walk up to her know what you want and go for it, don't succumb to anything she says or does, just focus on your intention, i.e Get to know her. If she doesn't play along, keep going with your intent. She'll either come around or she won't. You can't change her behavior just like that. The only way she'll change her behavior is if you stay strong in what you want.

Have fun. I noticed in you final post you just went out to have fun. You said you lacke motivation to approach. Guess what? Everyone goes through this phase. At one point we all go "FUCK THIS, let me just have fun." Now you will realize that approaches aren't shit, and that you will ONLY approach those girls that you WANT to approach.

Keep going out, keep doing what you're doing. It's great.

Good luck man.
^ i pm him something similar, he is putting too much pressure on himself, is not good..
Yes, but everyone or almost everyone goes through this stage. We build ourselves up to a point doing the same thing over and over, and it doesn't work. And that is the boiling point where we say "Fuck it" and go back to our normal lives. Then when we jump back in we have a new mindset about the whole pickup thing. We should go through such a stage in order for realizations to happen and true progress to be made.


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Hey man. Want to chip in for a few things here. Take it with a grain of salt.

Approach anxiety never goes away. The sooner you realize this the better. I promise you it doesn't go away, maybe the degree to which you feel it goes down. Some days you will be so in state and in such a good mood that you just say fuck it. But over the long run it will accompany you. Difference between us and the average person is we take action and jump over our approach anxiety.

You're setting yourself goals. That's good. But know that the end result does not matter. You should only focus on gradually increasing your goals. Approach 5. Now approach 10. If you get frustrated by approaching 8/10 then you are outcome dependent. How about actually approaching those girls that you find are attractive and worthy, instead of trying to hit a certain number of approaches. This isn't about doing so and so many approaches. It's getting to know a girl and building a connection with her and having sex with her. One at a time.

Stay strong in your intent when you talk to her. When you walk up to her know what you want and go for it, don't succumb to anything she says or does, just focus on your intention, i.e Get to know her. If she doesn't play along, keep going with your intent. She'll either come around or she won't. You can't change her behavior just like that. The only way she'll change her behavior is if you stay strong in what you want.

Have fun. I noticed in you final post you just went out to have fun. You said you lacke motivation to approach. Guess what? Everyone goes through this phase. At one point we all go "FUCK THIS, let me just have fun." Now you will realize that approaches aren't shit, and that you will ONLY approach those girls that you WANT to approach.

Keep going out, keep doing what you're doing. It's great.

Good luck man.
^ i pm him something similar, he is putting too much pressure on himself, is not good..
Yes, but everyone or almost everyone goes through this stage. We build ourselves up to a point doing the same thing over and over, and it doesn't work. And that is the boiling point where we say "Fuck it" and go back to our normal lives. Then when we jump back in we have a new mindset about the whole pickup thing. We should go through such a stage in order for realizations to happen and true progress to be made.
It's totally true, and to be honest, I did lose the motivation. I was asking myself: What is worth all this effort? Why am I even doing this? I had those question a few days. My god I even considered going into a relationship with a girl who i'm sure likes me but doesn't match at all. I don't even love her or feel special when i'm with her. Yet I felt weak because of no results.

Then I saw you guys posting in my journal, helping me out, and giving me the view I needed to continue in my journey to become better. It means a lot to me that people like you guys pay attention to read my stories, and give an honest opinion. Things look tough in the pick-up, but in the real life things are going actually pretty well.

First of all: My grades on school are WAY better than last year. For instance, 1 test where I had a 42/100 last year, I scored 82/100 this year. My day couldn't be broken then!

Second of all: I have more friends during high school now. Last year I was like, i don't know how to discribe, 'terrified' to talk to the guys. Like I had no value in my converstations. This year it's different, people open up to me, I walk up to them and have a casual talk, laugh and have fun.

And finally: Today I found some old pictures from my ex-girlfriend from 2 years ago, with me next to her. When I was looking to those pictures, I felt the happy memories again, the good times I had with her. It immediatly made me smile. I'm glad I took those pictures. And then I got that feeling again: the spark that makes you want to find a girl just like that! And that's when I started to think about my previous successes. There were hot women in it! Then I knew; Hey, I can get those girls too, no matter what! So from that point I felt the confidence coming back.

I feel like a new stage his arrived, and will be even better then the first stage.

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Day 20: 13th October 2012
Sleeping over at a girl's house.

Goals:
- Having fun (got drunk, still had a better time then I thought)
- Perhaps make out with one of the girls.
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- Socializing

Field report:
Okay guys, it has been a while since I posted a new field report in this journal. My week has been very busy with work so I wasn't really in the mood for typing the stories.

Anyway, I went to a girl who's friends with our group and we drank some beers there before going to another party tent. Someone brought the Game Slender and we kind off tried to scare the girls with it haha. They were screaming the through like the whole house when the guy appeared every time.

After some beers and liquor we were going to the party tent. I didn't bring my jacket because 2 months ago my old one got stolen. So I was walking with only a T-shirt and the girl from Day 14 was walking next to me. I took my arm around her wraist and she reciprocated. It kept me warm until we were at the tent.

Inside it was busy as if 1000 ants were fighting around 1 sugar piece. When I walked in I came upon the girl I kissed in Day 2 and had a chat with her for I think 5 mins. Some kino was there, could have kissed her again maybe.

We were right before the stage and man the people were jumping, dancing, i don't know what to call but it was fun. Before I knew the music stopped and we were 3 hours further. I didn't approach, cause I was having a good time.

At the way back, the same girl this time wrapped her arm around me when she saw I was shivering from the cold temperature. At the afterparty from the same girl we were before I fell asleep at her couch. I believe it was 3.00 am then. Her parents were ok with it (luckily) and the girl who kept me warm slept there too. She told me she was doubting to lay next to me and eventually she didn't.

What have I learnt today?
- A nooby lesson but still: girls most of the time don't initiate, you have to be the one taking the risk.
- Overcrowded bars, clubs and party tents are not good places to pick-up girls.

No further questions.

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A list of things I learnt from 20 days of pick-up.

So I've been 'in the game' for around 20 days of sarging. And i've learnt a lot about myself, i'm improving slowly but that's ok. The results will come, I am sure about that. But I have to summarise my lessons or else I will forget them. So here's a summary of things I've learned the past couple of months:

- Approaching is fun to do!

- You have nothing to lose

- Most people are friendly

- Approaching at night game is fun, but higher chance on BF's

- Girls like to be opened!

- Use different openers and follow-ups

- You cannot claim a girl being yours, you gotta work for her if you want her!

- I won't introduce any girls i like to my friends anymore, because i might lose them.

- Don't wait too long on the escalation, because you might lose her!

- I should continue approaching.

- And don't tell her friends anything, because they tell everything to the HB (dumb mistake, i should have known that)

- Sometimes you have good days, sometimes bad ones.

- I perform better when i'm on my own

- Don't give up, keep approaching!

- Girls love to dance, as long as you don't immediatly grind her ass!

- I gotta watch my leading, and don't make it forcing

- I need to be aware of my surroundings when approaching

- If she's reluctant in kissing you, you gotta make her comfortable doing it. Once you done it, she won't be reluctant anymore.

- Again, don't lose hope, sometimes i have bad days

- Other people see me as someone attractive, who can definately find a nice girlfriend

- Have goals

- Keep the motivation up

- I'm improving, even though i didn't really notice it myself

- Sometimes you just need to relax, and not think about pick-up too much

- If you really, really, really want to become a PUA, and put effort in it, then it doesn't matter how long it takes, because in the end it will be all worth it.

- The approaches are becoming better

- Guys are seeing me as a threat, which is a good thing

- By using The Claw, you can kino very well and show your interest.

- A few beers help me loosen up.

- I have to change the way i want to number close, it's not good enough yet. In order to not let the # closes flake, i gotta make some kind of connection.

- If you like a girl, don't tell anybody

- Girls like being teased

- I don't need alcohol to be funny, social, and stuff like that.

- Tease the girls, if they tease back, you're in!

- Kino works on every girl, even the one in a relationship!

- Game the guys as well, they might help you!

- Make sure that when u drive, u don't have to take home other friends who might be drunk

- Don't listen to your friends who tell you out of things, you can control your own decisions

- By being the social guy, you have the girls around you

- Talk about sex, the girls don't mind it. They like it!

- Even the really hot girls seem to open quite good. Don't fear talking to them!

- Having guy friends works good on your status

- I'm having fun, that's important

- Don't mix alcohol with caffeïne, at least in my case.

- In order to not get cockblocked, I should kiss the friends her ass and keep her happy (DO NOT DO THIS!, THIS LESSON IS NOT TRUE!)

- Clubbing alone works well, I should do it more often

- The line: "I'm here with my best friend" (grab balls), works as a charm.

- I shouldn't be too excited about going out during the week

- Too many challenges work against you. 1 @ a time.

- In the future, I have to work on approaching big sets.

- By getting friends at high school, I have social proof in the club

- Once again, I can't pick-up when i'm not prepared

- Having girls you know who like you around isn't a good situation.

- I might have to find more exciting friends! ( I've found out that one good wingman can change a lot !)

- Once again, teasing makes the girl frustrated, puts her on the spot, but she likes it IF you do it right.

- In case of one-itis, a girl can really f*ck you uop.

- Bringing up the sex subject is a natural thing, nothing to be ashamed of.

- You should never fight in the club, NEVER! Only to protect yourself if necessary

- When dancing alone, where EVERYBODY can see it, you don't look silly, you look AMAZING, CONFIDENT. Hell yeah, dance alone and girls join you, if you don't try to be cocky. Just have fun with it.

- I have to work on the approach anxiety once again.

(from day 15: a report that I forgot to finish):
- Even though I'm 19, it doesn't mean a thing. Older girls still open well to me.

- Hosting a party is good for your reputation.

- You actually can make a profit from it

- Next year I should invite unknown girls from school, work, going out and stuff.

- If i'm not in the mood, I don't focus and that means bad results!

- Using the slow subtle movements is good for attraction and getting in the seducer frame.

- Once again, too much drinks.

- In order to remember a name, you have to repeat it out loud. 1: to make sure you heard it correctly. 2: for a better memory, yes it works!

- Approaching people on a party is totally fine, they actually like it.

- Perhaps I shouldn't ALWAYS focus on getting girls, having fun is great too!

- Without motivation, there is no way I can pick up girls

- Results don't matter, dedication does.

- Be strong in your intention and know exactly what you want from an approach.

- Sometimes you need a F*CK IT moment.

- A nooby lesson but still: girls most of the time don't initiate, you have to be the one taking the risk.

- Overcrowded bars, clubs and party tents are not good places to pick-up girls.


That's quite a list of things I learned. Wow. I think ill summarise them now after 10 days or else I will get too much of these long posts. Hope you guys will learnt from this too. Good luck!

Wallie

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Day 21: 19th October 2012
Getting a taste of college night game

Goals:
- Having a night I won't forget
- Making approaches ( i've done 7 approaches)
- Closing (got 1 number close)
Refer to:
- Approach anxiety
- Closing

Field report+:
When I turned 19, my brothers couldn't think of a birthday present. They told me that their present was that I could go out and drink on my brothers' money. Cool!

So I went last Friday to Nijmegen, a college city with lots of college students but also high school people. Around 11 pm, I went with my 25 year old brother to another guy named Mark and first getting to know him a bit. We stayed till 12 pm at his house and then cycled to the center of Nijmegen with all the bars.

The first bar was a bar with a band playing 70s and 80s music. Lots of people, but they were all around 30 year old. Also not very attractive women.

Then we went to a bar dance. It was heavily crowded, and then I discovered why I could learn from Mark. He was approaching women on the go. Like almost every woman that passed by, and he opened them. Even though he didn't have success closing them, it was inspiring.

We stayed till 0.30 AM and then went to another kind of bar dancing. My brother and I were hanging our jackets and then we saw him talking to another girl for like 15 mins? It was hard to tell if he actually knew these women or just met them cause they all smiled. My brother then got into a convo with a fellow student when another college student passed by, looked at him and said, Luc? (that's my brothers' name). I introduced myself to her because my brother was talking to another girl and I think I had a 10 minute conversation. After that I opened 2 more women but they didn't respond well.

Then we went to some sort of club where in the first 5 minutes Mark opened more sets and when a girl passed by he told her: Hey have you met my buddy Marc? (me). She introduced herself (Naomi) and had a good talk for 5 mins. She said that I should have gone out yesterday (Saturday) and that she wanted to see me. But I had a birthday and I couldn't eject that at the last moment. So I said give me your number, which she did. Then I pointed to my cheek and she kissed it.

Áfter that we went to a college party, which sort of was underground. It was in a basement and you could smell the weed. At the toilets you could hear the students sniffing cocaïne. Holy crap! I texted Noami with: Aliens are gonna abduct all the good ass sexy looking people! Don't worry, i'm only saying goodbye. She replied: Haha, well I guess we will meet each other there. Me: Yeah, i'd like a second meeting. (no reply.....) But Mark knew 2 girls and 1 guy and I hung out with them all night. It was cool and funny. I danced with 1 girl for a short time and sort off flirted with the other (i believe her name was Eva, still knew it). She said that she once got flirted by a lesbian but couldn't remember how. So I first shaked her hand and said: like this? Her: no Then I did a naughty thing a softly grabbed her breasts and again: like this? Her: noooo...? Then I pushed her against the wall, looked her in the eye was a seducing look and again: like this? Still she said no. But she didn't mind that I did it haha. And the guy was looking at me like: haha, what the hell are you doing? The girl was wearing bunny ears (like playboy ears), so I took 'm, but them up my head and when a girl passed they looked at me, smiled and always wanted to take them or touch them. That's some good cocky item, might use that in the future.

After the party it was 6 am. Time to go to bed and sleep.

What have I learnt today?
- With this party night, I sure want to go study next year!
- Perhaps having a good wingman would help me to get results or carry me on.
- Instead of just ending it with a number, k-closing would be way better.
- I have trouble getting day 2's.
- My text game sucks ***
- I'm always stuck in the Mr. Comfort mode, but I need to be more in the Mr. Seducer mode.

Questions to move on:
- How do I improve my text game?
- Does k-closing give better replies for a day 2?

Wallie

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Day 22: 26th October 2012
Another birthday party, another # close!

Goals:
- Same goals as day 9:
- Become the social guy of the party (success!)
- No bothering of the other guys (success)
- Kiss-close (0/0) -> I feel like I could have done it, but the girl was a bit nervous.
- Make new friends (success)
- Kino (did that a lot)
- Teasing (did that a lot too) -> just like day 9
Refer to:
- Socializing
- Approach anxiety
- Closing
- Kino
- Seducing in every situation

Field report+: (this one is long)
Short intro about the party:

When I had my birthday party, 2 girls asked me to come to theirs as well. I first responded with a maybe, cause I wasn't sure how it would be. I thought there would be way too much guys, and not really much girls. Good thing I still went, cause there was almost the same amount of girls as well as guys.

I arrived around 10:00 PM. It was already very crowded by that time. Since I drove with the car, I couldn't drink alcohol (thank god I couldn't). For 30 mins I was just hanging around with my friends, getting used to the environment. A girl's old bra was going around. I took it and put it on my friends chest. Call me a noob: but I had no idea how :roll: . I guess I have learned now.

When I sat at the couch, I saw a girl in red dress, blue pants and Uggs in front of me. I opened her (can't remember how, was situational) and I made a gesture to sit next to me. Since the couch was not big enough, and crowded, I gestured to sit on my lap, which she did. I had a good convo with her for around 10 mins I guess. I talked about the fact that I didn't like her shoes (the Uggs). Made her laugh about it. I still remember the names of her and her friend. (Marjo & Lieke) Eventually I found out from her friend that Marjo wasn't single. Marjo never mentioned her BF!

Then I was walking around, socializing with the guys, dancing on gangnam style, laughing, having a good time. Saw an old classmate, and noticed he was kind of bored. Funny thing, I never talked to him before I started this journal. But yesterday I had a convo for at least 30 mins! Strange how things work out. I learned that his sister had dated a guy I know well.

During that conversation a noticed a cute looking girl at the same couch. So I excused myself to my old classmate and quickly sat next to the girl. She looked at me, and I said: "I guess we haven't met before, don't we?" She looked toldfull, and nodded with a no offcourse. So I introduced myself, she responded happily (her name was Gemma). I talked for 5 mins until her friend wanted to know who I was, and asked for my name. But due to the fact that the music was loud I accidently said her name (Sabine). She laughed outrageously and then said: No I asked your name, smartass :P. Introduced myself and already made a good impression. I asked to Gemma with who she was, and we walked towards the group and she introduced me to her friends. I started talking stories about myself, and tried to engage the whole group. And the best thing of all, I WAS CONFIDENT!

I looked for signals from Gemma, but she didn't look interested. However the girl to my left (her name was Jet), she was definately interested. Never leaving eye-contact, stroking her hair, smiling at things that were not interesting. Since it was a group, I couldn't engage her 1 on 1. I excused myself, and went to some friends again. When I saw the group had split (I think that was half an hour later), I walked towards Jet and Sabine, and gestured to sit on the empty couch. Jet was next to me, and that was a good opportunity for kino. I wrapped my arm around Jet, and got to know her. Apparently, she is the sister of one of my classmates and she's 16. Kinda young perhaps. She's also a little bit reluctant in touching.

Eventually we talked about what she liked, and always wanted to do. It was laser tag, and I hadn't done that as well for a very long time. So we sort of set up a date, and I said that she could give me her number. I got hers, and I gave mine as well, which I will do more in the future, so that both me and the target have our numbers. Eventually I noticed that the friend wanted to go, but didn't want to bother me and Jet. That means that she had a good impression of me, and didn't want to cockblock. I said to Jet that her friend wanted to go, so when she stood up I said: no hug? (gave a doggy-dinner bowl look, puppy eyes) She laughed and immediatly gave one.

When it was time for me to go, I got hugs from every girl who was still present. So once again, I was being a social guy, it gave me a good feeling :)

What have I learnt today?
- Before approaching, I sometimes need to get used to the new environment
- I now FINALLY know how to unhook a bra :P
- BF or not, it doesn't matter. You can still talk to those girls.
- A lesson my father always taught me: If you want the good looking girl, you have to open the less good looking friend, and make the good looking jealous.
- With every day of approaching and sarging, I become more and more social. So don't give up!
- Always have fun on a party, no matter what.
- To disarm cockblocks, be AFC to them. If you make them feel like you're nice, a friend, they won't bother you if you hit on their friend.
- For better chances on a day 2, set up a date.
Question to move on?
- No question, I'm glad my confidence has returned

Wallie

P.S. If you like my stories, and feel like you want this as well. Just make your own journal! You learn from your own mistakes that way.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 6:40 pm 
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Not officially a new day of pick-up, but I still want to mention this in my journal.

With every day of pick-up, I notice my inner strength growing. I don't just let people walk over me anymore, no, I have the confidence to step up for myself and don't just listen to everything what people say. I take responsibility for my actions, and face the risks.

And I notice this in my daily life. My grades at school are (WAY) higher then last year, because I actually DO something with my life, instead of just flaming, fuming, being frustrated, blaming others.

Remember that (almost) everything that happens to you is in your control. If you failed your test, that's probably because YOU didn't do enough. If you fail at approaching a girl, that's because YOU didn't take the balls to go for it.

I guess we need these certain moments, to look back at it, learn from it and move on. When I look back at what I was years ago, it reminds me of what I became now, and want to become in the future. Do you want to be someone without much to say, without anything happened in your life? Life's beautiful, make something from it! Even though it's hard, we all face it. And it's just something we all have to deal with it. Some better then others. Okay, you might have a disease, or not be the best looking. But there are still things you can do, there's always someone in your situation. And you can just look for attention, or deal with it, and make something better!

That's all what I wanted to say. A motivational speech for myself, which I needed. Hope it helps some of you too.

Wallie

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Well another week with no field report unfortunately.

Last Thursday I got a food poisoning from eating raw mushrooms. Because of that I had to throw up 5 times that night and couldn't sleep at all. Also the last 2 days I couldn't eat because I would have thrown up again. All I could do is sat at the couch and watch TV :S. So that's why I couldn't go on for a night game...

Just nothing more to say, then a terrible weekend.

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Day 23: 17th November 2012
Kiss my friend

Goals:
- Sarging with a friend, and get some approaches
- Having a good night
- Perhaps get a k-close
Refer to:
- Sarging
- Approach anxiety
- Closing

Field report:
My friends were hanging around at someone's place but I was kind off tired because a day of working so I slept from 7pm till 11 pm. After I woke I listened to some music to power myself up, which worked really well. Around 12 pm 2 friends came to my house because we agreed to go to the night club. One night club had a € 10 entrance fee which was quite expensive for us so we went to the other local night club. It wasn't really crowded there and the diversity of girls wasn't really good.

So I was just dancing around having fun, but my friend was like a dancing monkey, jumping around like he had some kind of energy boost. It's ok with me, I rather have that than friends who just stare around, which one of my friends did unfortunately. Later on, another friend joined in and he knew some of his female co-workers, it was a group of 10 at least. Since it had been a long time of sarging, I felt the approach anxiety again, and didn't approach them.

Girls kept passing by but I still didn't have the nerve to approach them. I still feel that anxiety over and over again and deep down I knów that it's just a matter of doing it. However it keeps bugging me that I can't easily do it. One girl passed by and got bumped by a guy. I saw my chance, opened my mouth but unfortunately at the last second I stepped back and she walked by unnoticed. Damn.

So around 2:30 am a blonde girl (I'd say HB 8.) and her tiny, brunette friend which was also quite good looking stood by us for a few seconds. This time I didn't hesitate and approached her, situational I believe and I asked her name. (Floor) The next thing I said was: Do you know my friend Marlon here? and introduced her to my friend. After 2 lines they already stopped talking. So I decided to talk to Floor again, and she said to me: "My friend likes attention, but she's a bit shy". I looked to her friend and she had a boring look, like she was forced to go out. Me: "It doesn't look like she wants attention right now". Her: "Well she's just having a rough time, but she's really a cute person". Me: "Well I like you more". Then I complimented her on her earrings and asked where she got 'm. She told where and I said: "So you're kind off a shopping person"?. Her: "Maybe..". Me: "Well maybe sounds to me like a yes, I like it as well, we should go shopping some time". Her: agian "Maybe.." with a hidden smile. While talking she was kino'ing me and I kino'ed her back but every time again she insisted in telling me that I should hit on her friend. So what I tried was telling my friend he should do it so I had a chance with the blonde girl. But both my friends refused to do that, since she didn't look happy or interested at all.

I figured that I wouldn't have a shot with the blonde, and I thought she just wasn't interested and I started talking with the friend. She had something on her mind, but refused to tell me at all, it was a 'long story'. I'd try a different approached, and I opened my hands and wanted to dance with her. She grabbed my hands but she didn't give any eye-contact at all while I was looking her in the eyes. No IOI's. I looked to my left and the blonde girl put her finger on her lips and then pointed to her friend, indicating that I should kiss the brunette tiny friend. So I looked again and there was just NO interest at all. I was confused about what was happening, and I had no clue at all what I should've done there. It was strange because the blonde was giving kino and good eye-contact, and yet she wanted me to go to her friend.

Later on, I noticed the two girls again, and the blonde girl was kissing some other guy, while his friend was stuck with the tiny girl. His friend also (offcourse) failed to make that girl happy. After that I was closing time and I had no result once again.

What have I learnt today?
- If you approach a 2-set, you need a good wingman who is ready to 'take one for the team'.
- I have to find a way, to sort of push the negative thoughts away when going for the approaches.

Questions to move on:
- What could I have done in the blonde-brunette situation?

Wallie

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Day 23: 17th November 2012
Kiss my friend

Goals:
- Sarging with a friend, and get some approaches
- Having a good night
- Perhaps get a k-close
Refer to:
- Sarging
- Approach anxiety
- Closing

Field report:
My friends were hanging around at someone's place but I was kind off tired because a day of working so I slept from 7pm till 11 pm. After I woke I listened to some music to power myself up, which worked really well. Around 12 pm 2 friends came to my house because we agreed to go to the night club. One night club had a € 10 entrance fee which was quite expensive for us so we went to the other local night club. It wasn't really crowded there and the diversity of girls wasn't really good.

So I was just dancing around having fun, but my friend was like a dancing monkey, jumping around like he had some kind of energy boost. It's ok with me, I rather have that than friends who just stare around, which one of my friends did unfortunately. Later on, another friend joined in and he knew some of his female co-workers, it was a group of 10 at least. Since it had been a long time of sarging, I felt the approach anxiety again, and didn't approach them.

Girls kept passing by but I still didn't have the nerve to approach them. I still feel that anxiety over and over again and deep down I knów that it's just a matter of doing it. However it keeps bugging me that I can't easily do it. One girl passed by and got bumped by a guy. I saw my chance, opened my mouth but unfortunately at the last second I stepped back and she walked by unnoticed. Damn.

So around 2:30 am a blonde girl (I'd say HB 8.) and her tiny, brunette friend which was also quite good looking stood by us for a few seconds. This time I didn't hesitate and approached her, situational I believe and I asked her name. (Floor) The next thing I said was: Do you know my friend Marlon here? and introduced her to my friend. After 2 lines they already stopped talking. So I decided to talk to Floor again, and she said to me: "My friend likes attention, but she's a bit shy". I looked to her friend and she had a boring look, like she was forced to go out. Me: "It doesn't look like she wants attention right now". Her: "Well she's just having a rough time, but she's really a cute person". Me: "Well I like you more". Then I complimented her on her earrings and asked where she got 'm. She told where and I said: "So you're kind off a shopping person"?. Her: "Maybe..". Me: "Well maybe sounds to me like a yes, I like it as well, we should go shopping some time". Her: agian "Maybe.." with a hidden smile. While talking she was kino'ing me and I kino'ed her back but every time again she insisted in telling me that I should hit on her friend. So what I tried was telling my friend he should do it so I had a chance with the blonde girl. But both my friends refused to do that, since she didn't look happy or interested at all.

I figured that I wouldn't have a shot with the blonde, and I thought she just wasn't interested and I started talking with the friend. She had something on her mind, but refused to tell me at all, it was a 'long story'. I'd try a different approached, and I opened my hands and wanted to dance with her. She grabbed my hands but she didn't give any eye-contact at all while I was looking her in the eyes. No IOI's. I looked to my left and the blonde girl put her finger on her lips and then pointed to her friend, indicating that I should kiss the brunette tiny friend. So I looked again and there was just NO interest at all. I was confused about what was happening, and I had no clue at all what I should've done there. It was strange because the blonde was giving kino and good eye-contact, and yet she wanted me to go to her friend.

Later on, I noticed the two girls again, and the blonde girl was kissing some other guy, while his friend was stuck with the tiny girl. His friend also (offcourse) failed to make that girl happy. After that I was closing time and I had no result once again.

What have I learnt today?
- If you approach a 2-set, you need a good wingman who is ready to 'take one for the team'.
- I have to find a way, to sort of push the negative thoughts away when going for the approaches.

Questions to move on:
- What could I have done in the blonde-brunette situation?

Wallie

^ she was just not interested she was offering you to her friend(iod) i would have moved on.... You did nothing wrong, she was just not into you.

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Date #1: Girl from Day 9 (30th November 2012)
Good date, even though I ended with telling that it stays with 1 date

Goals:
- Avoid awkward silences
- Avoid asking boring questions (it's hard to avoid it at all times)
- Make a connection
- After the date, look back at it and learn from it.
- Make the best out of it

Field report:
It was a suprise that she didn't cancel the date, because we know each other almost a year know, and she saw us both as friends. That makes me into the 'friendzone' (evidence that you don't want to get in this zone, because dating is much harder then). So I took the lead and said this: "I"m going into the shower right now (around 7:00 pm, the date was planned at 8:00 pm) and pick you up, UNLESS you say no RIGHT NOW!" I left my phone into my room for 15 mins, and went to the bathroom cause I had to take a crap. After I went back to my room I saw that she agreed and said: "Alright, we're having a date tonight, but i'm going with my mothers bicycle". (Luckily she said that).

I arrived at 8:10 pm at the café since I couldn't find a parking spot ( I went by car, even though the café is 2 miles away, it was -2 degrees outside, and I was already kind off ill). What I could have done was treating her as my girlfriend by kissing her on the cheek, then holding her hand or putting my arm around her and escorting to the spot. (I read that on Gamblers book). But I didn't because I was kind off nervous. What I did was opening doors for her and take her chair so she could sit on it. I could see on her look that she thought it was kind off cheesy. I told her I was just being a gentleman.

We got immediatly into a conversation by just asking how her week was, and from that point getting into different topics. I sometimes paused and look her deep into the eyes, and that worked off really well, because I noticed she didn't break eye-contact. Then she smiled and broke eye-contact because of anxiety I think, which means that there was a sexual vibe. So this works really well.

Until the following happened. My friends got into the same bar I was having my date, because there was no room left at the other bar. I was like: are you f"cking kidding me? And they sat at the table RIGHT BEHIND ME! So things became awkward because my date knew they were my friends. At point I could just shoot my friends, who does that! But I kept my cool and just ignored them. At first there were just 3 friends, then 2 more came in, another 2, and more and more until there was a group of 15 people I knew sitting behind me :?. She saw them peeking at us the whole time, and I think that she didn't like that at all.

At 11 pm they went home, but it was already kind off ruïned. We went outside at about 12 pm and I said: "I had a great time, but there wasn't really a connection between us. You were right, we should be just friends". I could see in her eyes that she hoped for more, for a second date, but I didn't want to. I ended with telling her to give me a hug, which she did, and we didn't kiss. We went home and texted each other goodnight.

So even though my friends were behind my, I kept my cool at all times, and just ignored them.

What have I learnt today?
- Quiet bars are good for first dates, there isn't too much pressure
- Don't tell your friends ANYTHING or else they might do the same as they did to me.
- Pause at times and hold strong eye contact. It creates a sexual vibe and then you notice if she likes you or not.
- Quiet bar dates might be hard for kino.

No question further, I've learnt from this date and I liked doing it, even though nothing really happened.

Wallie

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