Women are designed to pick up on sexual confidence. It's like a 6th sense. It's built though body language, killer inner game/confidence, some NLP reinforcement, and social proof. It's better to let the others do the talking for you when it comes to your sexual experiences. Nothing will turn off a girl quicker than if you try and DHV with "this one time, I banged twins while skydiving, bla bla bla."

The majority of LMR is a result of the fact that women have more to lose, socially, than men do when involving themselves in sexual relationships. If you're blabbing about this slut you banged, she's going to think "this is how he will talk about me after I've trotted reverse cowgirl style on him." Not a good thing.

This is why it's better to let others SHOW the girl your sexual prowess. Using pawns and other women for SP is one way of achieving this. Having a wing smartly suggest your expertise is another.

If you're flying solo and can't get any pawns/pivots to do the dirty work for you, that's where NLP comes in. It's all about the power of suggestion and the almighty double entendre. Body language and subtext are a must.

Look, if you're upfront about not committing with the girl, and she still gets herself in that situation... it's not your damn problem. Stop feeling guilty for doing the right thing. It will fuck with your inner game, so quit it!

Obviously, if you are having these feelings, it means that you're a "good" guy. You're not out to hurt anyone, however, it's not within your control to keep people from being hurt. As long as you are clear of blame, you're fucking clear of blame.

Here's the caveat: Even though you say "I'm not looking for a relationship right now" from the get go, you have to make sure that once she's hooked, you keep on reinforcing that you will give her the best night of her life... but that's it. It's about experiencing something wonderful and leaving it as an enriching memory.

But, of course, leave her better than you found her. If she's hung up on you, that's her problem. You gave her an awesome experience and never lied to her. That is, believe it or not, better than you found her.

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Hello Zip! I appricate the help given by you, I know it has been said many times but it wont hurt to say it one more time or does it ? hmm lol

Anyways back to business, I need your help on something.
I go to gym 4 times aweek, and i wouldnt say that i look one of the best guys there, but i am fit for my weight..six pack, cuts etc..and 5'10. I usualy go to the gym just for the work out and im not looking to hook up with anyone, hard to believe lol but its true ..There is this good looking girl at the gym that usualy shows up during the times which i do. One day i was looking for my buddy in the gym and i saw here walking into the free wright section and 3 afcs started wisiling at her and said "hey babe where are you going" me laughing to myself as she walked pasted me and egnored the other guys, i went to the mechine aren looking for my freind. I end up not finding him and as i turned back to go back i saw her walking towards me and she smiled, so i did the same and walked past her to look for my freind. So the question here is this i have gotten a few IOIs from her, it could be becuase she is hot and gets hit on all the time but i dont give her attention. So how would you go by talking to a girl at the gym? i mean every girl is there to work out and if you go right up to them, they will most likly think the reason for you talking to her is becuase she looks good! So any ideas of how ot # close here? Its kinda tricky!


Another issue that i have is that, I get " Omg your so funny " alot from girls, but i dont know or i should say how do i take it from there, meaing dating/ more deaper connection?

Wow Zip 22 pages, you're keeping busy here. Keep up the awesome advice, work, and effort. So my question for you is one I'm sure many of the guys here might have.

Say you compliment a guy while out at a bar or wherever you may be. I was reading one of your earlier posts about you being very picky or having high standards (something along those lines). Therefore your compliment towards this guy is genuine and you are obviously interested. For instance, "Hey, my friend thinks your handsome, so do I." (anything like that) (I used to do print ad stuff when I was younger - damn I wish I had stayed in the modeling thing haha)

What kind of response would you expect?

There's the cocky/funny of, "Wow, I don't even know you, are you always this forward with strangers?!"

There's the humble not interested, "Thanks." *and then move along*

There's also the humble but slightly AFC by reciprocating a compliment, "Thanks, how often does a pretty girl like yourself say that/come here, etc."

Basically, of the many ways a good looking guy can respond to a compliment, which one do you think attracts you more to him?

Most ways he can respond are a DHV one way or another unless it's, "Oh thanks, some girls don't think so." Or, anything completely non-confident like that, which if any ever does they need to work on their self-esteem. Personally, I just say thanks and move into conversation by bringing something interesting up (credit to Style I beleive?).

Hi Zip,

School starts in a day, and I know there are a lot of fresh meat around, these are HB's in their freshman and softmore year, extremely beautiful. I want to get kisses from them so I can show other woman that I am preselected. What are the best way to get lipstick kisses on my neck and cheek without asking for it in a cheesy manner? The only line I use is.

"So I see that is your favorite color lipstick. You know, I wear lipstick too. But the girl has to put it on me. No not like that. You can only use your lips, plant one right here (points my finger on a spot for her to kiss and wait for her to kiss)."

I've only used it once...what do you think?

Okay guys, answers coming soon!

I'm transitioning a new person into work, and it's consuming my life. (ew.)

I'm working on some quality answers, just keep 'um coming, and I'll get them all done ASAP!

Thanks guys!

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aww gee thanks for letting us know..i almost thought you left us loll..I thought all thease questions must been making you go crazy..but im glad it wasnt .. So hurry up and get on them lol we dont pay you to screw around loll wait a minute are we even paying you!?

hORRAY!!!

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Thank you. It's truly a pleasure being here.
Sweet IOI. That's the beauty about not being AFC... you set yourself apart and on a different level than other guys. This is attractive to women.
Yes. If she's hot, she expects the attention because people shower her with it all day long. You are an anomaly and therefore intriguing.
Okay, the thing about gym game is that it has to be done over time. In my opinion, this is the way to not skeeve a girl or immediately get the freeze out. You've already got IOI's and interest brewing with this girl. Go in, open her. Use "gym" humor and sarcasm (I had a guy open me once on the treadmill by saying "wanna race?" Later, come to find out as I'm researching your question, it's canned material credited to FratGuy.) Fuck it, it worked.

I'm going to point you to an article that I found helpful:
http://www.thundercatseductionlair.com/ ... k_up_.html

PU knocks a girl out of her routine. The gym is routine X 100000.
In my opinion, as long as you're self-deprecating and funny while really SOLIDLY knocking a girl out of her routine... you've got a good shot.
Phase shift. It's your frame. She's a guest. Shift it how you want and she'll be along for the ride. Make sure you've racked up a few IOI's, and then turn on a dime. Mystery "kiss close" routine is a good reference, although I wouldn't do it as written if you want to make it your own.

A way to help this is to isolate your target. Different location can set the tone for a different "feel" to the conversation.

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You trying to tell us something Roads?

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Just like i imagined .. Just wanted a point of view from an expert, or are you?! hmmm lol

back to the point here lol.. Ic that you said that the gym game takes time and to be honest it has been a month or two lol.. Im in no hurry but i havent seen her lately either, i know she will get back for spring break so that should be good. I jsut hope that if i take too long she might loose interest you know!? Oo one thing i forgot to mention is she comes in with her mom sometimes loll.. So me and trip worked on something so i wanted to see what your thoughts were on that as well .. Dont worry its not long loll.

Cool. This is what i was thinking. Lets say i go up tp her and point at her mom.

Me= is that you mother?
HB=ya, why?
me= She looks so much different from the last time i'd seen her.
HB=what do you mean?
me= She looks so much more fit. You are realy doin a good job, (either high five her or a nuckle shot) Keep it up.
Hb=blah blah
me=I gotta go back to my workout, see you around.(smile and walk away)

as far as the article i have o find some time to read it but i appreciate it.. you the 2nd best, well after me ofcourse loll

No, but I think Zip told you exactly what you needed to hear in her response to the question.

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Dear Zip,

1) Do long distance relationships ever work out?

2) With regards to phone game: say you are not setting up a date, rather you are just calling a girl for the sake of talking. What should we talk about?

3) I've had girls that want me to dip them on the dance floor after I twirl them around. I don't know how to do this, they didn't cover it in my dance classes. Solutions?

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Well Zip,you r the best!Here are a coupla questions:
1)If I am with a buddy of mine talking to a set(he is not my wing)and this guy happens to outgame me when it comes to conversations and generally better than me at keeping the attention of the girls,what advice do you have for me(if I managed to get some laughs at the begining b4 my buddy takes over)?
2)Do you think you could get kissed in just 5 mins. after meeting a new guy or u would show some even social resistance and if u rejected a guy's kiss b4,how would u deal with him afterwards,would you give him a2nd chance?
Thanx sweetie in advance..

Miss Zip, Roads said you'd be a good person to talk to about all this stuff.

I posted in my introduction how I came here because I was talking to Dave about this stuff and it seemed really interesting. And I really want to learn this stuff and be able to beat him at it... at least once XD

So where should I start? Reading stuff? Trying these things out on strangers?

I'm Bi... do you think it would be better for me to practice on women or men? It seems like some of this stuff may not work quite as well on men as on women (Neg I think it is), What do you think?

Hi NikkiLee,

Welcome. I did see your introduction. I'm on a bit of a break tonight, but I'm keeping up a little.

This is what I ask when I'm mentoring women in the field: What is your objective? Do you want to be able to get high quality people? Are you looking at this as simply a skill that you want to develop? Are you trying to become a wing? Are you interested in the theoretical? Experience in the field? Are you trying to break into the professional realm of PU? Let me know which one/ones apply to you... or if you're here for a different reason so I can better help you out

Practice is practice. There are certain universal truths at the core of this stuff... I neg guys all the time. However, you have to calibrate the techniques to work on men... just like a guy would calibrate his approach depending on the girl's HB ranking.

Reading stuff is a good start. PM me and we can talk so I can send you want I have.

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No problem. Glad to help out.
You are right in your credit to Style there. That's what I always do in conversation if I'm given a compliment.... unless I'm talking to a guy with a huge frame and then I'll say "I know." You guys aren't the only ones calibrating...

Personally, I like having relationships with nice guys. It's because I'm such a bitch, I need someone to simmer me down a bit. So, in my personal life... the guy who just says thanks is fantastic.

However, if you're going to neg me back or be CF, I love a challenge. If you're looking for advanced game here, this is the route to go. Just make sure the girl can take it and does not shut down.

The guy who says "Thanks" but walks away. No good. Unless it's done with a smile and a non-verbal sexual pull. I know he'll be back. This is all about body language.... and very potent if done correctly.

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