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I started working out and said yes to every fun experience I could.
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And you know what? It wasn't worth it when I got it.
And there is your answer to THAT! The added emotional tear down is not worth the fuck buddy experience, for something that will likely not work out anyway.

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I think you guys are probably right. I am going to try and work on myself and forget about her for a while. There's a lot I've always wanted to do that I never got around to doing because I was in a relationship (e.g. threesomes).

I just need to get laid ASAP and it'll clear up my head.


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All the effort you're putting into this ex, you could be putting into yourself and that, in time, will help you reel in a better girl. I'm telling you now: the idea of getting her back is better than actually getting her back.
In the end it's up to you whether you move on or you go for her. Everyone's experience is different in everything. If anything, this can be a learning experience for you (as, I'm assuming it was for Dr. Jones).
The thing is, you have to be attractive to her again. Re-seduce her, you've done it before.
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Getting laid and getting a woman you really care for are two different stories. You can actually have both!- that's if you want to get stuck (again)!

The question is, do you really fancy a romantic relationship with this girl? or you just want to get her back because you can't let your ego fail. Don't get me wrong. A lot of us guys seem to recover longer from attachments than these girls can.

You can get her back but remember, broken glass can never made whole again. Right?

You're a great guy man!

Go out with other girls and have fun!

Who knows you'll find a great girl in the corner and offer you "great experience" you've never experienced with that girl.

The world is full of women. Go get yourself a new one!

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If you living in a small town/city where connections are made like if you tell something to your buddy, maybe after couple weeks the message has reached almost everyone in your friendcircle, you should never be an asshole.

Dont piss your exgirlfriends off just because you feel like it, they got feelings and when you hurt their feeling, they will get mad and tell their friends how fucked up you are and so on. The message will keep going forward and maybe at some parties some chick is attracted to you and asks a friend some advices. The friend has heard about you and tells about it, game over.

Ps. I didnt read the whole topic..


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I used to be like you.....chase the ex, do anything to get her back, ect.

2 times it worked. Both times I had to wait until I was completely over her.

the first time I chose to hang with one, we went back to my house, I kept great distance, showed confidence and gave her zero iois.

the reult was sex, followed by her crying.

the other time I did the same thing. the result was her escalating, then breaking down and crying.

Both girls dumped me.

Like i said, i was already over them at these points and in a sck way, enjoyed toying with them because i felt it was justified.

Just got out of a 5 yr. I was bummed for a couple weeks, but after a month or so, completely over her.

Let it go, man....she was banging bar dudes.....eeeww.

And I am probably the old wrinkly dick that could be banging your gf...Im 39, the girls I date and bang are usually 21-28


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Thanks for all the advice everyone.

I may want her back, but either way I'm going to explore a little bit. There is no reason I can't have a little fun now and put her off to the side for a bit.

I live in a small city (with around 30k people), so I don't have to worry about the small town issue. I also work at a University, so there are plenty of college girls waiting for me to pick up, with new ones coming in every year.

With regards to the "don't piss off your ex" comment - I'm still not sure I've gotten a solid understand of whether or not to text her back. She texted me, "Can you find a sub for our bowling team because I cannot make it next week." (I'm the captain so I'm sort of responsible for finding subs) I responded "yes, I will do that." She texted back me asking what I was being for Halloween and I didn't respond to it.

My friend says I should never text her back, ever, even for carpools or questions about something other than us/me. He also says I should be giving her the cold shoulder/ignoring her when I see her in public. This seems counter-productive, and I'm just concerned that there is a limit that will drive her away completely. I almost feel like the random occasional text back is more appropriate (after making her wait a few hours/days or waiting for her to text again).

Any comments?

This has been extremely helpful! I feel better about myself already!


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Thanks for all the advice everyone.

I may want her back, but either way I'm going to explore a little bit. There is no reason I can't have a little fun now and put her off to the side for a bit.

I live in a small city (with around 30k people), so I don't have to worry about the small town issue. I also work at a University, so there are plenty of college girls waiting for me to pick up, with new ones coming in every year.

With regards to the "don't piss off your ex" comment - I'm still not sure I've gotten a solid understand of whether or not to text her back. She texted me, "Can you find a sub for our bowling team because I cannot make it next week." (I'm the captain so I'm sort of responsible for finding subs) I responded "yes, I will do that." She texted back me asking what I was being for Halloween and I didn't respond to it.

My friend says I should never text her back, ever, even for carpools or questions about something other than us/me. He also says I should be giving her the cold shoulder/ignoring her when I see her in public. This seems counter-productive, and I'm just concerned that there is a limit that will drive her away completely. I almost feel like the random occasional text back is more appropriate (after making her wait a few hours/days or waiting for her to text again).

Any comments?

This has been extremely helpful! I feel better about myself already!

The "Yes I will do that" for the team is perfectly acceptable. Not responding to What your doing for Halloween is just as acceptable, it was just a "hook" anyway.

I think your doing very well with this Brosef! You'll be banging some Hot college slam, in short order! Welcome your ball sack back my friend!

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I don't understand the problem?

She's texting/calling you, you want her back, but you won't text/call her because you like playing little games for no reason

So what exactly is the purpose of this thread? For us to figure out whether or not you should get back with her? WTF? That's not our job, you should know whether or not you want her back.

You got two options

If you want her back, call her, fuck her.

If you don't want her back, call her, fuck her.


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I got my ex back (sort of).

I though I'd post a followup of how it all went down, in case it helps anyone else.

I took the advice of everyone here. I ignored my ex's texts. "Do you want to watch Dexter tomorrow?; Can you help me fix my computer?; If you still care, I'm not seeing that guy anymore."

All she got from me was silence.

What is clear to me now, but wasn't at the time, is that all of the crap she was texting wasn't "I miss your dick," it was, "I miss your friendship."

This was a mistake I'd made earlier during our breakup. A women wants a "best guy friend" to make her feel secure after she goes out sleeping with other dudes so she can feel like she's not a slut (at least, that's my current theory). This guy is the AFC always getting friend-zoned (we've all been there at some point in our lives).

When I saw my ex at bowling later that week, I waited for her to bring up the conversation about her not seeing that guy.

We chit-chatted for 15 minutes, and sure enough, she brought it up.

"Did you get my text?"

"What text?" I lied, paused for a few seconds, and then opened my phone and scrolling to find her text. "Ohh yeah. That sucks, sorry to hear that."

I didn't ask what happened, or ask any followup questions, because doing so would have looked like she could still provoke an emotional response from me. Although I still cared about her, I was simultaneiously working on my own game, going out, and having fun. I hadn't gotten laid yet, but I accepted that my time belonged to me, and I wasn't going to let someone else's nonsense bring me down.

After bowling, we said our goodbyes and she told me that she missed me, that I needed to return her phone calls, blah blah blah. I didn't show any emotion, I just gave vague answers to anything she said.

"Why haven't you texted me back?"

"I've been busy."

"Can we hang out?"

"Maybe. Call me Thursday."

"Do you still want to be friends?"

"I guess, sure."

###############

The next week I went out to the bar with my buddy, Rodger, my friend Sue, and her friend, Jess. I'd met Jess once before, and she happened to be in town for the weekend. When we last met, I'd teased her a bit, and given her the nickname "Alaska" because of this winter jacket she was wearing that looked like she'd skinned a wolf. Nicknames work great, because it creates a unique connection with that person.

Sue, her friend, and I shot the shit for a while. I slowly started steering the conversation towards sex, and Jess told me how much I reminded her of her first fuck. I excused myself to go have a smoke with Rodger.

"I think I'm going to go for Jess."

"Yeah, she's pretty cute dude. And she's leaving tomorrow for Arizona!" (My friend has this theory that whenever a girl is leaving town, she lowers her standards and turns into mega-whore that will sleep with anything).

"She told me I reminded her of her first fuck."

"Dude, you're in."

In my mind, I already knew this (hell, I knew even before going out that I could probably get with Jess), but hearing my buddy say so helped solidify my self-confidence.

I ended up banging Jess for two hours that night at Sue's place. She left me the present of a large a hickey on my neck.

###############

The next week at bowling (I can't remember if my ex had texted me or not, I definitely would have ignored them though), I had the swagger of someone that had just gotten laid. After around 10 minutes, my ex noted the mark on my neck.

"Is that a hickey?"

"No..." I said in a sarcastic-serious tone and a sly smile on my face, slowly sliding my shirt up to hide it.

My ex gasped, but smiled and turned away. After a few second pause, she looked back at me:

"Is that from one girl or two?"

"I can't tell you that." (A better response would have been "ten" or "fifty", but whatever).

"But I want to knowwwwwww." (blah blah blah).

The trick here, I've found, is to never give women a direct response. I could have told her it was from one girl, and that would have lowered my value in her eyes (you've only slept with one girl?!?). I could have told her it was two, and I might be starting to look like a man-whore, or she may try to use it against me later. If I give her an answer like "ten", or "fifty", it's cocky and funny, but still registers into her subconscious, "Did he really bang fifty women?"

By not giving an answer, you force her to create her own image of you. If you're demonstrating high value, this image is going to be higher than her own self-image, which means she needs to work to win YOUR approval - just where you want her.

Later that night, she told me how "we've switched," opining that I was the one getting all the sex, and she was sexually frustrated. She also asked me, "Can we pleaseeeee hang out", and when I asked her when she was available, she responded with "Every day after three."

I laughed, because one of the things I'd learned over the past few weeks studying pickup was that you're always busy. She had become AFC. It was great. Hard work pays off.


And the rest kind of just fell into place. I continued to ignore her for a little while longer, but I'd occasionally answer her text. I'd always make her call me, and nevered planned anything in advance.

Her: "Can we hang out?"
Me: "I'm busy Monday and Tuesday, but call me Wendesday"
Her: "But why can't you make plans for Wednesday?"
Me: "I don't do plans anymore. I'm a fly-by-night guy now."

At some point, I just invited her over to my place and we banged. I made her cum twice. Then I told her I wasn't done with her. I made her cum three more times.

It was nice to have her back, but part of me felt as though she had been corrupted, and wasn't the innocent person I had remembered. I've fucked her again since that initial time, and it was better, but I'm in the place right now where I'm happy to continue working on my game, while keeping her as a fuckbuddy. If I ever decide to get back into a relationship, it'll be on my own terms.


Since this whole thing started, I've begun reading books on pickup, and am becoming more comfortable with myself. I've gotten a hell of a lot better at approaching and number closing. The most surprising thing to me is how many girls will give you their number (I think 90-95% of the girls I've asked have given me their number).

I've still got work to do, and I can't seem to get to setting up a date after the number close, but I'm confident it'll fall into place after I get a hang of it.

I just wanted to give a followup to how this turned out, and what I've learned so far. I know there is still so much to learn! Thanks for all the help!


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Congratulations man! Always good to hear some real success stories on these boards, especially where an ex girlfriend is concerned.

Keep that confident alpha frame, and continue gaming other girls while keeping your girlfriend on the side as a fuck buddy. Just remember, it's easy to slip back into old AFC ways with an ex girlfriend. Remember, she's your EX now, and the way you handle her has to be different. Make her chase you.


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I got my ex back (sort of).

I though I'd post a followup of how it all went down, in case it helps anyone else.

I took the advice of everyone here. I ignored my ex's texts. "Do you want to watch Dexter tomorrow?; Can you help me fix my computer?; If you still care, I'm not seeing that guy anymore."

All she got from me was silence.

What is clear to me now, but wasn't at the time, is that all of the crap she was texting wasn't "I miss your dick," it was, "I miss your friendship."

This was a mistake I'd made earlier during our breakup. A women wants a "best guy friend" to make her feel secure after she goes out sleeping with other dudes so she can feel like she's not a slut (at least, that's my current theory). This guy is the AFC always getting friend-zoned (we've all been there at some point in our lives).

When I saw my ex at bowling later that week, I waited for her to bring up the conversation about her not seeing that guy.

We chit-chatted for 15 minutes, and sure enough, she brought it up.

"Did you get my text?"

"What text?" I lied, paused for a few seconds, and then opened my phone and scrolling to find her text. "Ohh yeah. That sucks, sorry to hear that."

I didn't ask what happened, or ask any followup questions, because doing so would have looked like she could still provoke an emotional response from me. Although I still cared about her, I was simultaneiously working on my own game, going out, and having fun. I hadn't gotten laid yet, but I accepted that my time belonged to me, and I wasn't going to let someone else's nonsense bring me down.

After bowling, we said our goodbyes and she told me that she missed me, that I needed to return her phone calls, blah blah blah. I didn't show any emotion, I just gave vague answers to anything she said.

"Why haven't you texted me back?"

"I've been busy."

"Can we hang out?"

"Maybe. Call me Thursday."

"Do you still want to be friends?"

"I guess, sure."

###############

The next week I went out to the bar with my buddy, Rodger, my friend Sue, and her friend, Jess. I'd met Jess once before, and she happened to be in town for the weekend. When we last met, I'd teased her a bit, and given her the nickname "Alaska" because of this winter jacket she was wearing that looked like she'd skinned a wolf. Nicknames work great, because it creates a unique connection with that person.

Sue, her friend, and I shot the shit for a while. I slowly started steering the conversation towards sex, and Jess told me how much I reminded her of her first fuck. I excused myself to go have a smoke with Rodger.

"I think I'm going to go for Jess."

"Yeah, she's pretty cute dude. And she's leaving tomorrow for Arizona!" (My friend has this theory that whenever a girl is leaving town, she lowers her standards and turns into mega-whore that will sleep with anything).

"She told me I reminded her of her first fuck."

"Dude, you're in."

In my mind, I already knew this (hell, I knew even before going out that I could probably get with Jess), but hearing my buddy say so helped solidify my self-confidence.

I ended up banging Jess for two hours that night at Sue's place. She left me the present of a large a hickey on my neck.

###############

The next week at bowling (I can't remember if my ex had texted me or not, I definitely would have ignored them though), I had the swagger of someone that had just gotten laid. After around 10 minutes, my ex noted the mark on my neck.

"Is that a hickey?"

"No..." I said in a sarcastic-serious tone and a sly smile on my face, slowly sliding my shirt up to hide it.

My ex gasped, but smiled and turned away. After a few second pause, she looked back at me:

"Is that from one girl or two?"

"I can't tell you that." (A better response would have been "ten" or "fifty", but whatever).

"But I want to knowwwwwww." (blah blah blah).

The trick here, I've found, is to never give women a direct response. I could have told her it was from one girl, and that would have lowered my value in her eyes (you've only slept with one girl?!?). I could have told her it was two, and I might be starting to look like a man-whore, or she may try to use it against me later. If I give her an answer like "ten", or "fifty", it's cocky and funny, but still registers into her subconscious, "Did he really bang fifty women?"

By not giving an answer, you force her to create her own image of you. If you're demonstrating high value, this image is going to be higher than her own self-image, which means she needs to work to win YOUR approval - just where you want her.

Later that night, she told me how "we've switched," opining that I was the one getting all the sex, and she was sexually frustrated. She also asked me, "Can we pleaseeeee hang out", and when I asked her when she was available, she responded with "Every day after three."

I laughed, because one of the things I'd learned over the past few weeks studying pickup was that you're always busy. She had become AFC. It was great. Hard work pays off.


And the rest kind of just fell into place. I continued to ignore her for a little while longer, but I'd occasionally answer her text. I'd always make her call me, and nevered planned anything in advance.

Her: "Can we hang out?"
Me: "I'm busy Monday and Tuesday, but call me Wendesday"
Her: "But why can't you make plans for Wednesday?"
Me: "I don't do plans anymore. I'm a fly-by-night guy now."

At some point, I just invited her over to my place and we banged. I made her cum twice. Then I told her I wasn't done with her. I made her cum three more times.

It was nice to have her back, but part of me felt as though she had been corrupted, and wasn't the innocent person I had remembered. I've fucked her again since that initial time, and it was better, but I'm in the place right now where I'm happy to continue working on my game, while keeping her as a fuckbuddy. If I ever decide to get back into a relationship, it'll be on my own terms.


Since this whole thing started, I've begun reading books on pickup, and am becoming more comfortable with myself. I've gotten a hell of a lot better at approaching and number closing. The most surprising thing to me is how many girls will give you their number (I think 90-95% of the girls I've asked have given me their number).

I've still got work to do, and I can't seem to get to setting up a date after the number close, but I'm confident it'll fall into place after I get a hang of it.

I just wanted to give a followup to how this turned out, and what I've learned so far. I know there is still so much to learn! Thanks for all the help!
Excellent work Bro! Nice background story. Many can learn from this oft repeated scenario! Keep up that rock solid frame!

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