I'd like to know everyone's thoughts on "the nice guys finish last theory".

Here's mine:
It seems too many guys buy into this and say "women only go for assholes" then they overcompensate by trying to act like assholes. No wonder women are going for these guys - they're trying too hard and still failing.

Women are sometimes a mystery to men because of their conflicting emotional and mental desires. In their logical mind they want a fun, sweet, sensitive, caring guy. In their heart they want a wild, untamable guy to keep them on their toes.

Thats the way to simplify attraction. Be untamable. It's the same concept as us men falling for women we can't read. Being untamable doesn't mean we have to lose all those good traits though - the ones that fit with common sense.

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I remember reading an article awhile back how people confuse the nice with the good guy. The article basically explains the key differences between the two. The nice guy is basically a pushover and 'acts' to nice because he's head over heels with someone. An example of this would be something like this. "What kind of music do you like?" "I love rock music" And he replys saying "No way! That's my favorite kind of music". While in reality he doesn't like rock at all. he just made it up so she could like him.

The answer lies within the balance of real strength and confidence. You must learn to be cool and together and emit true confident vibe. Not the false confidence of an asshole.

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I'll go along with that, people who try to be confident i always want to punch.

Nothing says you can't be nice to a girl, as a matter of fact, most guys would benefit from being nice in the right situation. Often I think people confuse being nice with kissing a girls ass and putting them on a pedistal.

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I think some guys finish last because they become the assholes, or at least partly, that they despised. On the other side of the coin, women in their late 20's early 30's finally learn to not put up with the asshole as nearly as much and in turn more know what characteristics they done want.

There is a difference between a pleasant, confident, charming and nice man and a needy, insecure, manipulative "nice guy" who acts like a white knight in a vain attempt to coerce sex out of a girl by "always being there for her." They're not really nice at all when you think about it, they're people who think that women are vending machines that you put kindness, gifts and emotional support into and that sex will then pop out.

Their whole "nicest guy ever" schtick is an unconvincing falsehood because there is always an ulterior motive and they always act like the girl owes them somehow and they feel bitter and betrayed when she fucks someone more upfront and genuine.

It is and isn't BS. It's not exactly nice guys that finish last, but suckers who think doing everything for a girl who finish last. I live my life by trying to be a real nice dude and respectful to everyone, but I won't let anyone trample on me...and THAT is what a woman is attracted to.

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The nice guy definition here is very vague, but in this idiom, it refers to individuals that don't have their own opinions or realities, they do everything to please the women in order to get her attention and affections in return or they don't have the courage to push forwards into romance or sexuality, hence they're usually stuck in friendzones or take forever to reach the finish lines.

I've found a combination of chivalry and romance in the right time in additional of a wild unpredictable personality does wonders.

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