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PostPosted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 12:52 pm 
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Yeah your points are solid. Just first time I'm facing this siuation and had no emotional
power or experience to face it like a man.I would never have a LTR with her,even if
she didnt flake.I just wanted some weeks fucking her at my home.


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Let's see it from another point view.Fuck the time and energy I lost.Even fuck dignity.I need my confidence back,so revenge is the only way to go.I need a plan to make her feel like I did.


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Let's see it from another point view.Fuck the time and energy I lost.Even fuck dignity.I need my confidence back,so revenge is the only way to go.I need a plan to make her feel like I did.
Total wrong mindset. There's so many things in this world that you can't control. Why getting frustrated and obsessed over something that never meant to be instead of enjoy all other things going on around you? Human nature is greedy, hence we're trapped in an endless circle of lust and obsession. What would you get after you got your revenge on her? Nothing more than a mere couple minutes of satisfaction only to realize it only means that much and not worth all the time and all the things you missed along the way. And then what? There will be the next one, there will be another one just like her. What are you gonna do? Spend couple more months chasing after couple minutes of self-gratification again? Is it worth it? That'd be your call. You choose what you want to do, in the end, no one but you are the one who faces the consequences of your action.

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The best revenge is fucking another HB in the same spot.


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Ya, flaking is just part of the game.

Here is my (Redsky's System) personal system for filtering out flakes:

-I never chase a girl personally. I enjoy just getting as many digits as I can and only meeting up with the ones who show the most interest.-

Ex: Getting 50 numbers in 1 week by strolling busy streets on my days off and doing a simple little, " Excuse me, You're cute...wanna get coffee sometime?" then pulling my phone out and asking their number. That is, if they decide to say yes.

-I only meet up with the one's that choose to text me the most.-

I never text a girl more than once after I get their number and the text is pretty much a, " Hey this is -Jon doe-. Hope you enjoy your day ;)"

If they text me a, " thanx, you too." Then I still don't push to meet up, most of the time. However if I get another text the next day, after they already texted me the day before. Then I will shoot for meeting up.

I never text them, other than, for acknowledgement or due to a question that they texted me. I use smileys to keep the mood positive but not in excess. I usually use the :) or ;) smileys.

When pushing for the meet up, I usually say something along the lines of, " How bout we meet up this evening at -whatever- street and -whatever- ave at 7.'' If interested then they will most likely be up for it.

After that I meet up with them like a block away from where I live. I'll walk with them and sit somewhere that isn't too crowded. I have a view of the Hudson right by where I live, which helps.

I'll talk with them for 30-45 mins, ask them questions, make statements, etc. I make sure that I'm tapping them lightly a few times, when I talk so that I have their attention and have a start for kino. Get them talking. Try to stay positive. I start out playing around, joking about how funny a movie was. Then I move on to more serious topics like their goals, what they like in a guy, etc.

After that I test for compliance: I get them to stand with me and put my hands out to see if they put theirs on top. If they do then I pull them in and hug them with my hands around them. I will start telling them things like they are cute and lightly caress their face if they are responding favorably. I will get really close to their face til our foreheads touch, while looking in their eyes, but not kiss. I go close and pull back. If they are moving in for a kiss then I will take it but if they don't then I will ask them if they want to kiss me. If they say no then I say 'Mystery's line' "Well I didn't want to kiss you either, I just wanted to see what you'd say."

Usually if I get the kiss on the first meeting then I will either start walking them to my place to fuck on that same meeting or I will wait until the second time we see eachother. I always meet at the same spot even after the first meeting.

If we aren't having sex by the 2nd meeting then I will move on to the next girl to game.

When we get to my place, I put a movie on my computer then start watching it and wait for them to come sit on the bed with me.

After 2 mins or so of watching the movie, I will pull them gently closer and start kissing and making out. Since you already kissed her outside then this shouldn't be a big shock.
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(I do happen to play Classical guitar and I do play it if I see them looking at it intently.--I have banged a few girls immediately after playing a few tunes, once inside my room.-- Playing an instrument decently seems to make some women pretty wet and willing.)
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Also, If I don't get atleast a handjob the first or second meeting then I will no longer give them priority. But I always shoot for sex by feeling on their boobs and fingering them while kissing on my bed.

If they aren't giving me sex by around 20 minutes after being at my place then I will ask for a massage and remove my shirt and have them massage me. If they are not turned on by then. Then I will let them finish and make sure I get a good massage. After that, I will see them out to the street. I don't bother to kiss them goodbye. I usually just say bye and walk back home without looking back.

Most of the time they will text to meet up again and we will finally fuck. If not then they will no longer be a priority and I will focus on the next most interested dame.

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Yeah,great gameplan if you want to eliminate everything from 7 and above.Take a winkey,cause I know you like 'em ;-).When a girl has self respect she never chases.You are the one who will send the mot texts and arrange the dates.PERIOD.If you don't mind a handjob on the second date,then you are either virgin-friendly or playing wrong.GKS I give you respect and I think that's the proper state of mind.It's also the original way to DHV and not the fake one to just get in a woman's pants.But, I'd still love to hear a solution from you,I believe you can figure sth out.


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Reverse it on her, "We are headed to do X, but you would not enjoy X because you're a girl." or something along those lines. This says "You are not invited" so she can't flake on you, also if she is interested in you, she will try to qualify.


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UPDATE

Like in poker, loose aggressive tactics in life are the most profitable. I have a friend that lives near so I "accidentally" ran into her.She seemed very glad to see me and I faked a disgusted face.
I waited for her to come talk to me and when she did I layed down the law.I told her "I'll be more sincere than anyone was in your life.I have to admit I was addicted to you..I'm a man with many passions and addictions.But I'm stronger than them.Two things I hate most in life;lying sluts!You really need someone to turn you into a human being and I'm very glad I'm not gonna be the one.Have a nice life!"
After this short speech she started crying and told me that she really wants to see me again."I'm so stressed with the exams that I couldn't prioritise anything over this.Do you want to see me too?" I told her to write an essay explaining why she isn't an attention junkey and a whore and text it to me.Then she told me " wait..can i hug you?".I answered nothing and she hugged and kissed me.
"We'll be in touch" and I said while leaving "Yes if you make the right moves". So I'm waiting for her to call,till then...


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Yeah,great gameplan if you want to eliminate everything from 7 and above.Take a winkey,cause I know you like 'em ;-).When a girl has self respect she never chases.You are the one who will send the mot texts and arrange the dates.PERIOD.If you don't mind a handjob on the second date,then you are either virgin-friendly or playing wrong.GKS I give you respect and I think that's the proper state of mind.It's also the original way to DHV and not the fake one to just get in a woman's pants.But, I'd still love to hear a solution from you,I believe you can figure sth out.

hey en trance,

If I'm only getting numbers from girls who are higher than 7's to begin with, then how would I be eliminating 7's and above? I live in New York City, So plenty are just walking down the street.

More than one way to skin a cat and, believe it or not, a girl who has respect for herself will chase a guy if attraction is strong enough.

The women that won't chase guys are either too stuck up or not interested in them.

Women in a social environment tend to gravitate toward the men they are attracted too subconsciously. It is their instinct. Watch a a hot woman in a busy club the next time you go out and see what I mean.

As for virgin-friendly, like I said, I next them if they don't have sex by the following date. I'm always looking for the next girl, keeps the game exciting.

This game plan doesn't demonstrate all of my skills either. It's just something to help the less experienced have a methodical and simple way of getting laid.

-I also like sarging in bars and clubs, but that is a more complex process that would take more than a few paragraphs to explain.

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Redsky is right. 7 or above or not, if you get them interested enough, they'll chase you regardless. I had a HB9 who is a famous singer locally chasing me while I barely gave her any attention especially after I informed her about her hacked porn video that I came across online. Ever since then, she's trying to win me over. She even relentlessly tracked down my FB, sent me a friend request and a text. That was 3 days ago and I haven't answered them.

My strategy is somewhat similar to redsky, it saves time and energy when you don't waste it on girls who aren't interested enough in you. Usually if we haven't had sex by the 3rd date, I would move on to the next girl. Also the mind set you have about women and their respect is somewhat naive. Once you hook up with enough women in your life, you will come to realize it doesn't matter what women say or how they present themselves to you, at the end of the night, they all run blindly with their emotion. If you are capable of sucking them into your sexual frame, they'll jump you right away.

As for revenge, I'm not a big fan of what you did. It seems a bit petty for my taste, especially the essay part. Anyone with a keen eyes would see how insecure that is. Such action comes from a man who doesn't have a lot of control about his life and when given an advantage over someone, he would overdo it to express and boast about his rare dominant moments. No hard feelings. I always give people my honest opinion. If it was me, I'd just make her cook me a dinner or doing something romantic for me, that way it gives her a false impression that she likes me a lot and willing to do anything to make me happy rather than doing it just because of guilt.

But then again, I would run away from this girl, she seems to be really unstable and emotionally overloaded.

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Glad to see someone agrees with me. Anybody who doesn't, just try the little system part I wrote and see how well it actually works.

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It's all about what you need.If you want to have quantity over quality in your sex life,yes redsky you are right,it's the law of large numbers combined with time-saving selection.

GKS, I know my goal is idiotic. And I'm sincere enough to say I'm losing my time.But thats how my mind works.If I can't brainwash myself (like u maybe can) I'll need outside events to do it.Many small victories contribute to the general confidence I have with women and my ability to almost always score on the first date.A huge failure like that,could fuck both my inner game and my pick up game for some time.

Btw, she called today,tried to arrange a date and I said no cause she hasn't told me yet the reason she flaked.And one last thing;Gks I hope you don't have the women's feel of sarcasm(almost none).When I asked for an essay I meant I need a fucking "why".

To get a flake's attention you can either act like a charlatan who remains unaffected by anything,cause his life is super awesome,(they know you are faking it,we can't always underestimate their IQ level) or be a man and lay down tha law.

Redsky;How can you only get number's from 7 and above if you collect 50 numbers per week. You are either too lucky to have such a taste (cause u can enjoy a pussy even if she's not your type) or u don't work or sleep at all.Take a moment and ask yourself if monomania for picking up random girls contributes to a happier life.

And ask a girl if she wants to kiss you as a feeler? FFS MATE,JUST DO IT


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 Post subject: 50 numbers a week
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Redsky;How can you only get number's from 7 and above if you collect 50 numbers per week. You are either too lucky to have such a taste (cause u can enjoy a pussy even if she's not your type) or u don't work or sleep at all.Take a moment and ask yourself if monomania for picking up random girls contributes to a happier life.

And ask a girl if she wants to kiss you as a feeler? FFS MATE,JUST DO IT

Not that hard to get 10 numbers a day for 5 days on my walk home from work. Just don't give a fuck and go for it. Don't be afraid of rejection. If you a freaking out about one girl who flaked on you then maybe that isn't the best method for you en trance.

I save FFS a random girl for the club scene, not on the street in broad daylight, right after I got their number. But I might try it sometime just for the fuck of it.

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