So im only asking this because, first off, I dont want to use material i learn, and then have the chick im talking to have heard or seen it before, that would just make things awkward. Second of all, at my highschool, I saw all those popular kids with the hot chicks all the time and it makes me wonder about a few of them and if they have studied this sort of stuff.

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routines are not all that important, the ''material'' is not what gets you the girls, it's your belief system behind the routines, when you are confident it will work, you will use routines with confidence

also, alot of pickup material is focused on helping you socialize with other people, a guy with good social skills tends to do better then a guy with bad social skills when it comes to women

you don't have to study pua to get girls, you can get girls simply because you try to get them and believe you can, pickup just gives you some insights as to how to improve yourself and your approach to meeting and dating women, basically it is like marketing, but you're marketing yourself to the opposite sex

men and women were fucking each other, long before pua ever existed

If you're in highschool, odds are this shit will work wonderfully.

It becomes more difficult when you're my age (32) and have to game seasoned women. They have heard every pick up line and have been through several players in their life. Unless they were stuck in a loveless marriage for 14 years and have only been with their husband, odds are they have played and been played many times.

Use the material and the routines while you can. It works exceptionally well on younger girls.

Also, there are a LOT less pick up artists who are your age. Most (I would think) don't get into it well into their 20's, 30's, or even 40's.

About the highschool thing, it's not 100% true. Because i'm still in high school, and i'm not bad at it, neither am i good. But you can't use sex routines and stuff like that because if you fail, the girls will spread the word around the school, and that could easily f*ck up your status.

Is it easier? Perhaps. You're right about the fact that they haven't met many players YET, but they also don't always understand your thoughts, and have trouble to understand YOUR IOI's.

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I'm not in high school but I imagine it's not easier. Most girls are looking for social approval at that age and will be going for the popular kids, no matter how confident, charming, or interesting you are.

Read what pumpington wrote again. Use pick up to not pick up women but to improve your confidence, style, and self-presentation. Then you won't need any routines, you will just be an attractive, confident guy who can naturally seduce women.

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