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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Okay. Reading the forum I come across threads and comments that shows many people don't understand some things that are important. So I just create a list what I can recall and you're free to add anything you have too.

#1. Being kind is needy.

No, it's not. In fact, it's attractive if it is for the sake of being kind, not for the sake of getting into the girl's pants.

#2. A neg equals an insult.

No, it does not. In fact, it's a compliment, you just make sure that the girl knows that even if you like something about her, it does not amuse you so much.

#3. Mystery method is outplayed, it's natural time.

Well...yes... if you use the exact same lines as in the book, you might have some problems, but the method itself, the guidelines it sets, is very far from outplayed. The rules of attraction doesn't change, and I still find Mystery method a great tool when I need to operate in a group, eventhough I myself prefer natural game.

Besides. I'm getting very tired of this naturals vs. scripted fight. Just take what fits you and stop bothering about how other people game.

#4. Dancefloor game is shit and for pussies.

Actually...the dancefloor is one of the places where you can escalate the fastest. You only need your balls for that, and a very good body language, since verbal communication is nearly 0 on the dancefloor.

#5. Text game is shit.

Even I rarely use "text game", only to fix dates. But that's a rather important aspect to think about it. I mean... many times I can't get the lay on the first night, so I am going to have to arrange a date somehow.

#6. Online game is easy for beginners.

It's indeed harder to game a girl online, if you don't have experience in gaming personally. Since you can only use your "verbal" communication as a tool, you really need a tight game to get the girl interested. Especially since there are tons of chodes and creeps who are harassing them online all the time.

#7. NLP is evil.

It can be used very badly. But it can boost your game if used properly, and it can even be used to help you improve your own personality. That is anything but evil.

#8. You should never tell a straight answer to a girl's question.

Most of the time, this is in fact true. But calibration is very important. It can come off as very arrogant and douchy if there's something she really wants to know and you just keep messing with her all the time. Don't take everything as a test. It's really all about calibration.

#9. Buying drinks, gifts, etc. is a turn off.

It's almost never necessary, but it is an easy way to isolate once you're in the set. Sometimes the girl truly doesn't have enough money, and you can just help her out. Of course you need to make sure she's not a gold digger, and make sure she has earned that drink with enough positive feedback. About the gifts... They should be never bought to impress the girl. That's the rule, other than that, you can buy her something small and cute and tell her it reminded you of her. This is a very strong way of creating connection.

#10. When you have a girlfriend the rules of the game change.

That's only partially true. Yes... some things become unnecessary, but basically you still shouldn't be needy, you still shouldn't make her think that your life would be over without her, you still shouldn't try to impress her all the time, you still have to work for that attraction to stay there, if you want that relationship to last.

#11. Playing video games will make you a forever alone virgin.

This is another bullshit. Take everything in moderation. If you play some video games, fine. Just make sure you go out a lot, have lots of friends, and have other interesting things going in your life besides your level 85 paladin and you will be completely fine.

#12. Getting drunk when gaming is a good idea, since it lowers social pressure.

It's not a good idea. You might feel more confident, you might even get better results, but you can't base your entire game on alcohol. What if you'll have a girlfriend? Will you be drunk all the time just to maintain the confidence?

#13. Masturbating before possible close will help since you will be able to hold on for more.

Masturbation will lower your motivation, your sexuality, and your confidence. It's anything but helpful. It's okay to jerk it once in a while, but stay away from porn, and try to keep fapping as rare as possible. As for holding on for an extended time, there are quadrillions of techniques about this.

#14. Freezing out a girl will always get her attracted, since she will wonder why you no longer care about her.

This might be true if she cared about you in the first place. But if she didn't she won't give a fuck about a creep finally leaving her alone. Freezing out can be very powerful but it is a tool that should be used with care, because it can fuck things up when used at the bad time. Freeze a girl out, when there was an initial attraction, but she did something that didn't please you(eg. a flake)

#15. Monogamy will lead to the death of the relationship sooner or later.

This is something that can apply to several superficial people in this modern society. But me personally, don't need a partner for long terms who can't keep monogamy. If my parents and grandparents could do it, then I can do it too.

That's all for now. I might add some things if I come across them or if something gets in my mind.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:51 am 
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Excellent list !
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#9. Buying drinks, gifts, etc. is a turn off. Sometimes the girl truly doesn't have enough money,
I was surprised you had this as most guys preach not to buy girls drinks. It depends on the girl as well as geographic location because its different everywhere. If the girl does not make sex a weird thing, and she can genuinely accept a drink and read that your not using this to get into her pants then there should be no problem buying her drinks but for simplicity I follow these two rules now.

You can buy a girl a drink when
1. You've already had sex with her
2. She just ordered you the first drink

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I's like to add:

#16. Everything a woman says is a shit test.

I'm not saying shit tests don't exist, just that women are not constantly throwing them out. Think about it: if every little mundane thing that people on this forum talk about as a shit test actually were one, she'd just making up a course of obstacles the whole time she's talking. What would be the point of her even wanting to be in the conversation?



Also, I'd like to point out that even though this is a newb-ass account, I am not.

(I haven't been on in about a year, and lost the password to my old account. Was mostly a forum lurker before that and probably will continue to be)

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#17 By being direct, you gave away your power

This can be true in some circumstances, but when you say i girl that you think she's beautiful, and she has heard that a thousand times, then maybe yes. But you can also be direct by saying something nice about her necklace, earrings, hair since most guys don't mention that. Being direct shows that u are interested to know her.
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#5. Text game is shit.

Even I rarely use "text game", only to fix dates. But that's a rather important aspect to think about it. I mean... many times I can't get the lay on the first night, so I am going to have to arrange a date somehow.
I'm sorry but i want to mention that calling her first is better in my opinion. When u call her, u show balls, because most guys text. If she doesn't answer the first time, i wait until she texts: "why did u call me". But that's my game, i'm not saying texting is bad, it's just the way i do it.

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I love the list...

#18 Risk creepy is being a weirdo, no calibration, creepy stalker with a boner. Do i still have to explain?


#19 A method or a pua material will allow you to sleep with any girl you want. No matter how much game, good looking, rich etc... You can not have any girl you want.

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Peacocking is about dressing outrageously.

No, it's about dressing in a way that attracts the type of women you want to attract. eg if you want to attract office girls you might dress formally and say wear some fancy cufflinks or something like that. It's not about dressing like you're in a heavy metal rock band all the time.


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If I build rapport, show value and illicit values from her I'm in!

Yes, in the friendzone. You have to show sexual interest right from start and in an appropriate way (eg you wouldn't say "I want to fuck you" when you first meet but you would use body language to say the same thing but in a subconscious way)


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Nice, I'm happy that some people added things to this list. I have another one altough it's not a one liner.

Looks. In the community looks has been assigned two extremes. AFCs are saying over and over that without looks you have no chance, and good looking dudes and keyboard jockeys are telling that looks are completely irrelevant.

Truth is, if you're her type all you have to do pretty much is not fucking up. Because she wants you from the start, she will help a lot throughout the seduction.

However... "her type" is actually very subjective. There're girls who don't like muscular dudes at all(one of my exes for example). There're girls who dig bold guys. There're girls who like the nerdy type. Basically...you just need to find the right girl.

Additionally, bad looks can be compensated with strong game. Of course not all girls will like you, but with a good game you should pull a few times more girls than you'd just by your looks. And this applies to both good and bad looks.

Finally, your appearance does not consist of only your genetics. You may not have the most handsome face, but a nice haircut that fits it can do wonders. Style also matters a lot to women. So start getting concious about how you dress and what you wear.

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well at least theirs another PUA out there actually testing this out or has background experience

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