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Hi guys, two years ago, I met a pretty young girl and we had sex for a couple of months. When I say we were having sex, I mean she was having sex and I was having erectile disfunction even if she was very pretty and sexy.

Last week, the same problem happened again. I decided to search the internet for answers and I discovered I have porn induced erectile dysfunction. Yes I am an avid fan of porn and because I'm single I masturbate regularly.

And then, I found this little document called: "Sexual Healing. How to cure porn induced E.D., return to earlier sexual tastes and test your sexuality. So last Sunday, I decided to stop masturbating and watching porn.

So I decided to make a copy-paste of this small document for you. I would like to know if I'm the only one here on this forum that is having this problem.

It would be a great idea to share this information to a maximum of guys because a lot of them are probably not aware that they have this problem.
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Sexual Healing

If you can masturbate when you are alone to pornography, but you can't
get an erection when you are with a partner then you have Porn Induced
ED.

Dopamine

Dopamine is a chemical in the brain. And when it is released it makes
you feel feelings of arousal and it is also responsible for the mans
erection. It is also the chemical that's responsible for desire.
This means that when you see someone that is sexually attractive your
brain will release dopamine and you will feel aroused or you will desire
the person.

This also means that when someone is seducing you, your brain will
reward you by giving you a lot of dopamine. And a lot of dopamine will
make you get an erection.

And this also means, that if someone that is sexually unattractive tries to
seduce you, your brain will not send out any dopamine because the
person isn't attractive enough. And therefore you will not desire the
unattractive person.

Now you know, that every time you see someone attractive, your brain
will release a little dose of dopamine in order to motivate you to talk or
mate with the person.

And when you are about to have sex, and someone tries to seduce you a
larger dose of dopamine is released so that you get an erection.

Alright so to make it even easier to understand. Keep these numbers in
mind, they are not accurate. But they make it very easy to understand.
A sexy person that walks buy will maybe release a level 3 dopamine
rush.

A sexy person that kisses you will maybe release a level 5 dopamine
rush.

A sexy person that touches you sexually will release a level 10 dopamine
rush.

And when the brain gets a level 10 dopamine rush. It is translated into
an erection.

Note: These numbers are only meant to simplify so that everyone can
learn.

With this being said, there are things that can release very high doses of
dopamine, for example: pornography will release a level 20 rush.

More graphic pornography will release even more dopamine.

Now what does this have to do with resensitizing the brain to sex and
returning to previous sexual tastes? Well, first I must give you more
information on “Brain Sensitivity”

Brain sensitivity

Now I am going to try to make this easy to understand as well.

Now you see, when we talked about dopamine, I wrote that dopamine is
released in the brain? But where does it go?

Well there are a receptors in the brain. So dopamine is released and it
connects with these receptors.

This could be likened to when you are going to recharge your phone
battery. The phone battery would be the receptor. And the dopamine
would be the electricity.

Now if the receptors are healthy, you will only need a normal dose of
dopamine. This again can be likened to a phone battery, if the battery is a
good battery, you only need a normal amount of electricity to recharge it.

So this means, that in order for your brain to function properly you have
to have sensitive receptors and you need dopamine.

Dopamine & Brain sensitivity

If your receptors are healthy and they all work, when a girl kisses you a
level 5 dopamine rush is released and you feel good. Your brain is being
“recharged” with a good feeling.

But what happens, if the receptors are damaged? Or desensitized?
The first thing that you will notice is, the same girl might kiss you, and
the same amount of dopamine will be released, but, the receptors are
desensitized.

So that girls kiss might release a level 5 dopamine rush, but since the
receptors are desensitized they only perceive it as a level 1 dopamine
rush. So you feel less aroused and less desire.

This means that if you desensitize your receptors, you will have a hard
time feeling sexual desire and you will have problems getting an erection.

So remember when I said that a girl that is touching you sexual might
release a level 10 dopamine rush. Well, she will do that if she tries to
seduce you, but since the brains receptors are desensitized they will only
perceive this as a level 2 dopamine rush. This means that normally the girl
would release enough dopamine in so that you could get an erection.

Remember. Level 10 dopamine rush = Erection. But now the receptors are
desensitized, so when she releases the level 10 dopamine rush, your
receptors only take in a level 2 dopamine rush. Which isn't enough to
make you get an erection. This is Porn induced E.D.

You won't feel any real desire, your brain cannot be charged with
dopamine because the receptors don't work.

And when a girl walks by, you will logically find her attractive but you
will not feel any emotional attraction because, Well you guessed it. The
level 3 dopamine rush that is released will not be able to make any sort of
impact on the desensitized receptors. And therefore there will be no
connection, and you will not feel anything.

What causes desensitisation?

Desensitization is caused by over-stimulation.

You see most men will not realize that they are desensitized until they
experience some performance problems.

You see a guy that usually got turned on when he watched regular porn,
had a good dopamine rush and healthy receptors. Will continue to watch
more and more porn. And then the receptors try to adjust to the intake.
The receptors are used to getting a level 10 dopamine rush from normal
girls. But the pornography is releasing rushes at level 40.

So your brain says, “We must numb the receptors.” And then the brain is
numbing and numbing the receptors every day because the person
watches pornography ever day.

And eventually the receptors are so desensitized, that the person doesn't
even feel aroused by normal sex.

So he moves on to more graphic sex, which releases more dopamine in
order to compensate for the weak receptors, but in turn also numbs the
receptors more. A bad loop to say the least.

So as dopamine levels goes up, receptor sensitivity goes down.

Now this means, that the person must change sexual preferences because
“normal sexual tastes” don't release abnormal amounts of dopamine. Only
weird kinky porn does.

So if you got this book because you wanted to return to your previous
sexual tastes, you know now that pornography has numbed your
receptors. And in order to return to your earlier sexual tastes you will need
to re-sensitize your brain.

Also, desensitization takes time. For example, the first time someone
watches porn he will probably start with normal porn. Maybe of a guy and
a girl. Or he will just watch a girl in a playboy magazine and the man will
get aroused. Rarely does a person go and watch extreme porn the first
time they watch it. In fact, many people are turned off by extreme porn
when the receptors work as they should.

Note: You cannot watch pornography at all. The fact that you are
watching it still means that dopamine is being released and you are still
going to desensitize the receptors. SO NO PORNOGRAPHY WHAT SO
EVER!

As you see, we have come to the conclusion that when you desensitize
your receptors the dopamine cannot get the full effect.

This will in turn make you uninterested in sex. It will prevent you from
getting an erection. It will confuse you sexually.

So if you want to do the following.
1. Resensitize your brain to sex.
2. Return to previous sexual tastes.
3. Cure porn induced E.D
4. And test your sexuality.

You will have to RESENSTIZE your receptors.

How to resensitize the receptors

The only way to resensitize the receptors is by making them starve. In
other words, you will have to stay away from orgasm and pornography.

Now this might take a while, to actually resensitize the brain. But it is
worth it. Just look at the list above, the benefits are huge. And I am pretty
sure that getting back your sexual tastes and getting back your erections is
more rewarding then masturbating to porn alone when everyone else is
asleep.

We have found that you will have to go 8 weeks without pornography and
orgasm to restore the sensitivity level. For some it can take 14 weeks,
some experience a turnaround at week 4 or 5.

But we suggest 8 weeks without pornography and orgasm. And if you
can, the best thing to do is to go without it until you find someone you can
have sex with.

Note: When you are desensitized, dopamine levels will also start to drop.
For example. A person that gives you a kiss would normally release a
level 5 dopamine rush. But because your brain has been overstimulated
and the receptors are numb. It will actually lower the dopamine release to
a level 2 rush. This goes for everything that releases dopamine. Kisses –
Sexual touch – and even sex.

Preparing for the time – out.

If you rise to the challenge, and you stay abstinent for 8 weeks. I would
like to give you some information on how that time out will feel.

In the beginning you will feel like it is impossible, but after 2-3 weeks,
the receptors will have healed a little bit. And you will start to feel better.

But there is a trap, after 2-3 weeks, your body will experience this as a
chock. And you will start to feel like an addict, shaking, unable to sleep
and a bad mood is not uncommon when restoring the sensitivity in the
brain.

Some men give me reports like this.

“I could only become aroused when watching sick porn, but as the time
passed,and I did the 8 week time out. The need for human contact grew
stronger. I became interested in the girls in school. When a girl would
have a revealing top, I felt this urge to introduce my self. It was a pretty
good feeling to be honest.”

“ I am only 21 years old. And I have been watching porn for 10 years,
yes I admit it, I was an addict. I didn't notice that how damaged I was
until I tried to have sex with a girl from campus. I couldn't get aroused no
matter what she tried to do with me. When I finally stopped my
pornography usage, I felt like hell. But 10 weeks after that, we tried to
have sex. And this time I had no performance issues at all.”

There is also an explanation to why men turn to things that they normally
wouldn't watch. And that is simply that the new pornographic-material
releases larger doses of dopamine. And the new material which is often
more graphic will release a larger dose, but at the same time,
overstimulate and numb the receptors even more. So a few men even
start looking at same sex porn and believe that their sexuality has
changed. And the real reason? You guessed it. Desensitization.

It also has to do with neurological pathways, but that is a very complex
topic as you can imagine.

It feels like I am taking a little bit of a risk her, I really hope that no one
gets offended by this book. It is only meant for educational purposes!

Staying abstinent for 8 weeks will fix the following problems.
1. Sexual Confusion
2. Desensitization by Pornography
3. Excessive masturbation.
4. Porn induced E.D.

And in turn it will do this to you.
1. Resensitize your brain to sex.
2. You will feel less anxiety.
3. Your normal sexual tastes will return.
4. You will cure your porn induced E.D.
5. You will feel motivated to go out and meet someone new.

Prolactin

Prolactin is responsible for the sexual refractory period. And during the
sexual refractory period a man cannot get an erection.

Prolactin is released when a man masturbates, you know the sleepy
feeling after masturbation? Well, that's prolactin. It wants you to
”recover.”

However, that is not the problem, 30 minutes without sex, and you will
have low prolactin levels and you will be able to have sex again.

The problem is that some men take medicine that has a side effect of high
prolactin levels. The only thing i can suggest is, do not masturbate so
much, and talk to your doctor about the medicine. If you stop using it. The
prolactin levels should get back to normal in a couple of weeks.

With that being said, for 99% of the men, it will not be prolactin that is
messing with them. It will be the lowered brain sensitivity.

So again, no pornography, not masturbation. And everything will be fine!
So what do you think?


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Thanks for posting this, Secretely. It seems to make sense and I have come across similar ideas in the past. I have had a similar episode in the past with a HB8 model 3 years ago but I have attributed that to feeling tired/ jetlagged and didn't think much about it since I had recovered by morning, but it might be due to this, I don't know.

However, since the ebook advocates no orgasm (no masturbation) for 8-10 weeks and then having sex, the performance issue after that might be the premature orgasm/ ejaculation?


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just try setting some dates for masturbating and just don´t do it all day long or when you´re depressed about a woman. this is bad conditioning


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Damn, and here I thought I actually liked 1 legged midget tranny's... turns out I just need to stop jerking off.


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wow.. ok.. no porn for me anymore.. XD

PORN!!, I bannish you to the depths of the abbys in the name of DOPAMINE!!!!


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Is there somebody here that had the same problem than me?


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Is there somebody here that had the same problem than me?

Not really.. I mean, I thought about it... I average 1 or maybe 2 times a day depending on the week. But I still have no problem getting an erection when a girl is coming on to me.

I think a lot of it is psychological and there are other physiological factors that could play in to it. Exercise, sleep, healthy diet, and high enough testosterone levels. You may want to get your testosterone levels checked if all of the other "factors" are good for you. Personally, I sleep like shit, I hardly exercise, and my "diet" is randomly healthy at best.

A lot of guys that I work with swear by testosterone SPAM. IE - Pills or the "rub" that you put on your shoulders. They say they have more energy, stronger drive, and just feel better overall. If you're in your late 30's or older, this could be your issue.

Or it could be the porn.


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about 1.5 years ago I developed very strange symptoms in my gut including:

-leaking semen after urination and bowel movements
-erectile dysfunction
-SEVERE premature ejaculation
-severe lower back pain
-severe abdominal pain
-severe prostate inflammation and abrasion
-sleepy, dopey, ALL the time. could never concentrate etc

let me tell you that prior to that, I had been masturbating and watching pornography non stop for basically 7 years.

i am 100% CERTAIN that all of my problems were caused by excessive ejaculations.

I fell into serious depression as I did not know what was going on and thought I would never be sexually healthy again.

I searched the Internet and other engines and found a wealth of information regarding this topic. I investigated my brain neurotransmitters and body hormones and found several deficiencies.

After 1.5 years of the following regimen

-4-6 weeks of shutting down my sexual system (no thoughts, stimulation, NOTHING)
-seriously healthy diet
-seriously healthy sleep habits
-NO masturbation
-NO porn
-sex ONLY with my gf and ONLY 1x a week MAX
-lots of herbal pills

added to this were countless urological appointments and abdominal and rectal ultrasounds, semen and urine analyses.

Today I am 80% healed. but I will follow this regimen for a long time. I dont think I will ever be the same as I once was


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After 1.5 years of the following regimen

-4-6 weeks of shutting down my sexual system (no thoughts, stimulation, NOTHING)
-seriously healthy diet
-seriously healthy sleep habits
-NO masturbation
-NO porn
-sex ONLY with my gf and ONLY 1x a week MAX
-lots of herbal pills
That's pretty rough. But having sex only 1x a week max? I mean you still have sex, and sex makes you feel good. Or is it really to prevent those problems you have 1.5 years ago.
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Is there somebody here that had the same problem than me?
Well, i already masturbated at the age of 15. When i got my first kiss at 16 years old, i didn't feel aroused, i didn't feel an erection or anything.

And when a girl jerked me off 4 months later, i did have an erection, BUT just no orgams, nothing came out. Worst part? I told one friend and he told the whole group, they still make fun out of it. I never realised it was masturbation until last week. It's sick, i would almost say they should put this information in a school book. I think 9 out of 10 men would really benefit from that.

I also believe drugs works the same. When you use drugs, your brain releases hormones that give you a great feeling (not sure which hormone). But it also desentizes your receptors. Eventually you have to take more and more drugs to get the same feeling. And when u try to quit it, the receptors won't work on the 'regular' dose. That's why a despression would occur for most 'clean' drugusers.

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Damn, and here I thought I actually liked 1 legged midget tranny's... turns out I just need to stop jerking off.
Legend, spat my cornflakes out :)


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Warning...slightly graphic but I'm including the details for relevancy.

I had a ten year relationship/seven year marriage to a woman that had issues with penetration due to medical issues. She was hot as hell but fucked up, partially in the head, partially with what they call pelvic floor issues...interestingly our sex therapist said it was because her internal muscles were too strong and after her hysterectomy due to her long term and severe endometriosis complications she could no longer be penetrated. It was literally too tight and painful for her. She was given a set of medical dildos of slightly increasing diameters to work with but she was too lazy and unmotivated to really work on it like she should have been.

She was mindblowingly good at everything else including practically being able to suck a baseball through a garden hose, enjoyed swallowing, always wanted my cock in her mouth and she was bi so I got a few threeways out of the marriage but eventually my desire drove me to a lot of pr0n because she just couldn't keep up..I had her permissions to go outside the marriage which I really should have done instead but a combo of AFC and love for her kept me from doing so. Even with all that 'bonus stuff' it was ultimately unsatisfying in a deep way not to be able to finish her off properly if you follow me and so the porn started.

So yes I have acquired the same problem over a period of ten years and am now attempting to kick the habit after a long and fucked up road. It is a large part of why I have trouble connecting with women now and even people in general I feel. Thanks for posting this brother, everything helps.


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I actually had this problem. if you don't want to give up porn because that's just a huge situation, just do it on a steady basis if you decide to give up completely your setting yourself an overwhelming task. So set small goals like 3-4 days and then see if you can go longer after month of steadly breaking it down.


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I actually had this problem. if you don't want to give up porn because that's just a huge situation, just do it on a steady basis if you decide to give up completely your setting yourself an overwhelming task. So set small goals like 3-4 days and then see if you can go longer after month of steadly breaking it down.
The 3-4 days small task is do-able. But in my experience it didn't work. Best way to do it: write it down as a commitment. Every time you feel the need of masturbation, your commitment shows up in your mind, and you don't want to masturbate because of the bad reminding of the past.

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