I see you got a lot of replies. I am going to keep it simple move on, women who flake text have already a pre-though of you being something they don't want and have slowed their pace with you. She may text you eventually but move on, as if she is not a potential target. If things then come from her end where she texts you back then go from there.

Don't text though as a way of communication as in finding about her day, actually call her. Rather text to jokingly neg or show her a fun way of showing her you exist so she can think about you.

Otherwise overall move on don't look back and forget her if she can't spend 10 seconds for a text how can you expect a 1 hour date to work for her too!

Even as a newbie I would suggest you leave it longer.

Question: Why would you suggest your personality is shit compared to your appearance? GIrls look for personality, don't let her know your personality is shit till after the sex.

Just wanted to update you guys on my progress - I waited 2-3 days texted her again with a role-playing routine, and I think I got better results, I just took the advice I got from everyone and I tried showing the fun side of me. But I tried something new: after I talked to her for a little and it went well, I stopped replying to her (like she did to me) just to show Alpha characteristics, uneedy and all that. What do you think of that move?

Here's the convo:

Me: This is the Police!! Hv you seen *Her Name?!
Her: (Pops out of the trees) here I am!!!
Me: Your wanted for robbing several banks!
Her: I mean there she is!!! (Points at random fat man and runs)
Me: *Runs after her* this is Detective Rick - Freeze!
Her: Lol *slips on a banana peel and dies* (She now uses the * sign lk me)
Me: I knew that Banana I dropped would come in handy
Her: xO
Me: What's new, partner in crime xD (transitioning from routine)
Her: Let's see got Married had a few kid, became an over night pop sensation that's about it you? Lol
Me: Won the Olympics, went to mars and solved world hunger - not bad for a Friday lol.
Her: Not bad, not bad lol
Her: What productive lives we have
Me: Definitely lol. If u could achieve anything u wanted - what would u do
*She gives me her personal answer*

I now, stop replying to try and flip the script. I think it went better guys, and tomorrow my plan is to take the conversation where it left off and ask how she plans on going after her goals, and share mines.

I don't see the point of the conversation. You start with a joke and nonsense, then more nonsense, then abruptly transition to a personal question.

What do you want? To sleep with her or joke around in text messages? If you want to sleep with her or have a LTR or whatever I suggest you cut the shit and just ask her to come to your place, or go somewhere where you can get to know her and then later pull her to your place. Texting is just a waste of time.

And your whole "establishing alpha by not talking to her" makes no sense. You aren't alpha because you aren't responding. Especially since it's all a ploy to seem alpha. The most likely outcome is that she is confused.

Now, what have you learned.
- Cut the shit, go after a goal of a LTR or just a quick lay.
- Stop texting. Meet the girl in person. No relationship has come about because two people texted each other all day.
- I didn't say it before, but make sure you talk less about you and more about her. Qualify her, instead of constantly trying to prove that you are valuable.

Boss,

Not sure if I stated this before but she's in another state. I'm on the east she's on the west - in my ethnicity and culture, this is something that's common - so most communication is done online/over the phone. Not saying that I don't game girls face to face.

But to inform the board more on the situation, before she never talked to me at all, so this is progress. I stopped it early because at times she usually stops convo early, I did it before her. I believe Mystery mentioned this, he said tell a girl you'll "call her back but don't do it." it's a tactic he uses. But I do agree with you on qualifying her, definitely gotta' do that.

What does everyone else think.

A) hi pinkfloyd again
B) C) if you can't or don't want to I understand, but realize you can only be "text buddies" and it woulnt go any further
D) know where the conversation is going, control it (not in a forced way, just lead her down the right path) - in your last text what were you trying to do? Get in her pants? No, get her on a date? No, sexually escalate with her? No..... You see where I'm going
And finally
Don't end on a personal question, she'll think you left because of her answer, leave when ur having a great convo and it starts going downhill, quit while your ahead basically

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I like this girl But usually if I text, I always do with a purpose. I text to sext or to invite her out to do something. And the "not replying" part, you're using it wrong. I ONLY use it when she takes way to long to reply or she does something bad to upset me or to test her level of interest or when she sends me "LOL"/one word respond/emoticon respond. Other than that, I don't see the need for it. Let's face it, if a girl is at peak of her interest level and text you every 2 minute with consecutive texts in a row. Why would you wait a day and let that fire dies out?

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"Let's face it, if a girl is at peak of her interest level and text you every 2 minute with consecutive texts in a row. Why would you wait a day and let that fire dies out?"

Char lad and GKS, best posts I seen on this page! Thanks! I really learned a lot from you's two. The thing is she did this thing where she stops talking in mid conversation, I think I should hv done it back to her (lk I did) BUT I did it at the wrong time. So thanks to you guys I know how to use that.

So GKS how do I "Push and Pull" and get her to invest more in me?

How do I create an EMOTIONAL CONNECTION with her answer? I responded today to her and finished from where I left off. I said, "Awesome. How do you plan on doing this?" Haven't received an answer yet. (it's on a messenger and it let's me know she hasn't read it yet."

Am I suppose to respond with my goals in life? What should I say afterwards; if you can bring me up to speed on what I should do here that would be great.

Push pull was a verry vague topic when I tried to learn it, no one really had clear guidelines on it - but I'll try my best to explain

Push pull is like it sounds, but very delicate, first you are flirty with her, like talking to her a lot ect whatever you do, and then being that "jerk" guy and doing things like ignoring her or openly talking about other girls (careful with this one, it either works perfectly or destroys all attraction)

Not to go against a lot of fancy tactics and stuff on this forum, but to get her to invest in you you simply... Ask her to, every woman I've told "I'm going to sleep text me tomorrow" has done it (after attraction building, don't do this the day you get her number), the hardest way to get a woman to invest in you is to hint that she should, asking a question in the hopes she asks it back usually never happens.

And should you respond with your goals? A) not really but if she asks yes, and B) don't give her real goals, example - 1. Taking over the world, 2. Owning a Atheme park, 3. Finding a cure for a rare African desease

Finally what should you do here? Take her out on a date, quit the text only chats

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To me, push and pull is like ... let's just say you give a kid a lollipop, just when she reaches for it, you pull back and say "on the second thought, have you been a good girl today?". Then she will qualify to prove that she is deserved the candy. Same goes for girls I game, I make them feel like they're so close to win me over, but they can still lose me any minute if they don't focus all their attention into that sole goal.

For example: "Won the Olympics, went to mars and acquired a few superpowers. You can be my evil sidekick ... only if you look sexy in our uniform though"

---> Yes, she can be my adorable evil sidekick because I like her but WAIT.... only if she looks sexy in a uniform.

As for how to create a DEEP EMOTIONAL CONNECTION with a girl? I learned this from female PUA Kezia. Basically if a girl gives you a personal answer or statement, you ask yourself why, how, and what make she says those things. Then ask her questions to explore that topic further and make her open up to you emotionally. It shows the girls that you actually are listening to her and genuinely want to know her better. It takes practice and some observation skill.

As for what to answer, Charlad is right, nothing will ever happen if you don't take this outside into the real world. Just say "Me? This is embarrassing... promise me you won't laugh?". After she replies, say "On the second thought, I'll be grabbing some coffee at xxx on xxx, come join me. Let's have a real and fun conversation!"

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GKS, Charblad,

That was awesome, I'm gonna write down those definitions they were very helpful. So... here we go again, I talked to her today but all she replied with a one word answer and I tried to change the subject by saying, "I hv a joke for you." (to try and lighten the mood) she seen just now (at night) and didn't reply...

What do I do now? I think I should let more time go by and try and talk to her again.

But I honestly don't know what to do here.

Not much to add to your last post, but stay very far away from qualifying yourself to her so much, "I have a joke for you" screams "please I want your approval" - just skip the bull chat and say the thing (I personally don't like when people ask "hey did you know what I did yesterday?" and wait for me to reply, it's childish, save me the 2 minutes and just say it)
And just saying my rule of thumb is don't send 2 messages in a row within 24 hours, give her one more chance after, then move on, if she likes you she doesn't need a week to realize it

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Send her a non-sequitur. Something completely random that will throw her off guard and make her wonder "what does that mean?", then just leave it at that...

If she isn't interested in you at all, she will just delete the text immediately and go on with her day.. or completely ignore it.

If she actually cares about what you have to say she'll follow it up with questions about what it is about or where it comes from.

It's important that it is not a question... This opens her up to give you a dead-pan, flat, unfeeling answer, which shows indifference. Questions require a reaction. Statements illicit a response.

You can go virtually any direction.. Something funny, like

"So, a baby seal walks into a club..."

or you can make it just a little fact you picked up somewhere

"Women are 10x better at reading body language than men."

or you can make it something vaguely sensual

"Pupil dilation is a sign of arousal."


I'm not saying these specific lines "work", per say.. But they're examples of a kind of "statement" that could be used to pique her interest and make her stop and think. Tailor the statement to her interests... If she's into a certain band or type of music, you could send her a random interesting fact about that band. Anything that will break the ice and keep her interested in what you have to say.

If everything that comes to her from your phone is forgettable and stale and boring, then that is what her impression of you will be.

Personally, I find it very difficult to maintain a connection with a woman through text messages and I think it's one of the worst things to happen to dating, for ME. See, I have a very deep, resonate voice.. I'm also very articulate and a lot of my humor is subtle and people only pick up on it through the way I emphasize it. Don't get me wrong... I am excellent when there's an active "back and forth", like through a chatroom or IM screen, because it flows.. But when you're texting you often do not have 100% of someones attention, and I feel this hinders building rapport.

So, in the future, I think it's important (I know I feel it's important for me) to make the "texting" phase as short and sweet as possible. Send a few text to get a date/meeting arranged, then abandon 90% of the texting you would normally do in favor of phone calls and meet-ups.

I'm no guru.. but this is my observation/experience.

I think the opener was good. Then it just goes down hill fast man. Why do you ask if she's staying out of trouble? Why not say" you been getting into trouble"? I personally will never make fun of something a girl takes pride and our serious about. It's clear she wants to talk about the project,why not ask her what the project is about? She basically cut you off after you made fun of her being religious. Why would you ask another girl for advice on a girl, that automatically applies Friend zone, that is what girls do with each other.

I am 100% positive that women will choose a guy with avg looks with a great personality over an amazingly good looking guy with no personality. You basically said I'm hot but a jack ass. Only men care about looks over personality. Never ever say that again.

Don't tell her there is more to you then she knows. Show her there is more to you then she knows.

Also when texting check your grammar and wording. Girls are naturally better at grammar and wording, you don't want to come off as a dumbass. I personally struggle with this.

The point of cutting the conversation off is to leave her wanting your attention. It's a great way to tease attention whores.

You do need to go in for what you want eventually.

You ask for a lot of advice. Maintain your judgment.