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Don't get on one knee for a girl that won't get on two for you.

Not all styles are the numbers game, but that is one of the styles that is currently popular. I'm pretty sure nobody (except maybe Mystery) has ever done the MM to 100% perfection. It was useful for me when I was starting out because it gave me a structure, but on the whole it isn't great because it keeps you in your head too much.

You should be able to get to the point where you can open successfully 80% of the time or higher. Some days you might have a perfect day/night, but most of the time there will be women out there that aren't interested in you no matter what you do/say. I've run into a few cases where she wasn't interested at all (it seemed) and then when I brought another girl around suddenly she wanted me.

Other types of seduction are easier than cold approach, BUT if you can do cold approach you'll have the personal knowledge that no matter where you are you can do something about getting the girl. When I started out, before I had ever heard of pua's, I was lucky enough to have a few friends that were naturals. Most of my interactions with women were either as a date for the friend of the girl they were taking out or what is now called social circle game. I got very, very good at social circle, but didn't really do any cold approaches. Guess what happened when I was put in a situation where I had to cold approach? I was hit or miss. Not only that, but the nights I missed big time I had some very dark times. Then my social circle dried up and *poof* I was almost back to square one. I could have given up, but I didn't. I decided to work hard and get that area of my life handled.

I think before you read anything else you should tell us what your goals are, a few strengths, and a few of your weaknesses. That way you can save time, money, and frustration by picking a style that fits you. Information overload is a very real reason people fail to become proficient at this.

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Hi, I'm A. Fahren and I'm an author. I love to travel, socialize, and am hopelessly addicted to movies. That's about it.

Also, don't buy into the BS about doing a large number of approaches. If you're screwing it up and you can't figure out what you're screwing up a large number of approaches will just make you perfect at being imperfect.

For example the last time I went out I was with a group of co-workers. We were headed to a concert and I was really looking forward to it because for my style concert game highlights a few of the major principles with my style. Unfortunately, one of the people we were with got us kicked out before the show even started. Then the festival that was going on in the city at the same time started closing down early. Then we went to a hookah bar. Not really my thing, but some pua's swear by them. Got a shitty beer (I was trying out local beer since the city is known for microbrews) and was having an all around sub-par night. You can usually tell when that's happening because I don't talk as much and drink more.

So, I get up and go to stand in line for the unisex bathroom. I see a cute girl. I go up and start talking to her. I went direct. I don't really remember much of what I said specifically (I think I just started ranting about how my night was going and that this BS would have never happened if I was back home, but I can't be sure.) All I do know is she was being super bitchy, but I still number closed her in the few minutes we were waiting on the bathroom. Then my group left. We went back to my co-worker's place and later in the night the same girl sends me a pic of herself in a little dress and a corset looking submissive along with some DTF texts. Couldn't really do anything about it at that point, but my co-workers got a kick out of the whole situation.

Anyway, my point is I only made one approach on a night that really wasn't going my way and it still worked out. Other nights I might do a dozen (or more) approaches.

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Hi, I'm A. Fahren and I'm an author. I love to travel, socialize, and am hopelessly addicted to movies. That's about it.

I had something similar on a day-game. I tried to go for approaches but was very anxious about it. At the busstop 2 cute girls came up and had to catch the same bus. It took me 3 mins to say a thing, but once i started talking they liked it. And i still hang out with her (yeah i was too late with the escalation, but she hooks up with my best friend now, i'm ok with it). So i only did 1 approach that day, and it was the right one. Again you're right, you don't necessarily need dozens of approaches, 1 could be good enough

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This number theory helped my inner game though I still do little approaches. Before this, I have high expectations because of some pua stuff. If I got cold rejection, I felt bad. If I got number and it was fake, I felt really bad. If I got a flake, I felt really bad... I felt I am the only one who should be responsible for this and I still suck.

After this number theory, I do not feel that bad now. I can make mistakes, but it can not be always the main reason. Now I usually think the girls do not like me when I got flake and the girls are not cool people who I myself do not want to spend time with when I got cold rejection during approaching. I feel much better in my daily life now.

That's a good attitude to have. You're going to make mistakes. The best guys out there make mistakes and get rejected from time to time. Just try to learn from your mistakes. Don't worry about figuring out what you did wrong at the moment. Wait until later.

Usually when you get a fake phone number it means she was too nice to say no or you didn't build enough attraction with her. When she flakes you didn't do anything to set yourself apart and she just sees you as just another guy. Or sometimes she is just a flake in general and you don't want the frustrations those type of women bring. When she rejects you outright it isn't personal. You've caught her off guard and she doesn't want to talk with a stranger or you aren't her type. Just move on.

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Hi, I'm A. Fahren and I'm an author. I love to travel, socialize, and am hopelessly addicted to movies. That's about it.

This.

I think that the Venusian Arts are more like tools. Tools to aid with social interaction. No doubt there may be many methods and variations, some just fit better with certain people.

I think many people give up PU because they've lost the need for it. Be it in getting the girl of their dreams, marriage, maybe even a life as a religious. But I feel it is a life skill.

A lot of the techniques learnt, can and should be used throughout life, regardless if you intend to game a girl or not. Just think of social interaction at parties, social outings, even business. Look at it this way, who wouldn't enjoy being in the company of someone with high value, someone who is confident of himself, yet not being douche at the same time.

In light of this, I feel that anyone can be picked up, regardless if it's in a sexual way or not. Overall, if used correctly, will prove to be one of the best methods of improvement for both you and the people around you.

ive heard of some dudes who pick it up real quick get results and just exploit it horribly by just direct approaching everyone and thinking theyre unstoppable. the most horrendous examples are those who have 'learned' from simplepickup, the youtube channel.

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Just trying to meet a 10.

wot??
what r u talking about man?
hell no
where did you read this? i suspect you imagiine it..

maybe 5 years ago I read my first pickup book. For about the first 2 years I was obsessed with learning and practicing until I dont think I could have learnt any more. Now Im just happy exactly with who I am. I dont need to take anything from these sites. I do find it interesting to still come on and browse this site and offer my 2 cents or experiences for other people.

when you know enough that you stop trying to learn and can just be happy... thats when I found, none of this really matters anymore. It just feels like 2nd nature to meet girls if you want to. and get pussy as you please.

I was never a natural, but after a while it all clicks and comes to you naturally.

its hard to explain. I guess it takes time and maturity.

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