In the Stylelife challenge day #1 approach excerise, are you limited to talking about meaningless subjects, or is it OK with subjects such as walking up to a worker in a clothing store and asking about stuff you wanted to know anyway? Does it really have to be approach just for approach' sake, meaning hollow subjects and a short exchange of words?

it's good to start approaching without the goal to seduce. Because most newbies just have fear to approach the girls because;

- They think they will rejected
- They think that she's out of her league
- They make up excuses to not approach her

These things that come up in the mind prevents a lot of men to actually approach girls, and that means they lost before even approaching.

With the challenge to approach WITHOUT seducing, you cannot be rejected. Look at this example:

ME: Hey, do you know where the nearest Starbucks is?
HER: Uhm sorry, i already have a boyfriend.

That would be weird right? Not a single girl would react like that. They would give u the directions, and then u can move on. Did u get rejected when u left that conversation? NOT AT ALL! YOU COULDN"T BE REJECTED!

And that is why u need to start with openers that aren't supposed to seduce, because when you overcome the approach anxiety, the fear of rejection will be conquered, and then u can move on to the approach to seduce. Worked for me at least.

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I haven't asked for the Starbucks but for the Train station, for the Time, for the bank, for the city center and for a pub I've had and "sorry, I already have a boyfriend"" is a common reply over here. Anyway that is not a rejection that is just meeting brain dead scared zombies, so who cares if they answer like that.

So in your opinion the goal is to just have any conversation, without the intent to seduce? I can kill two birds with one stone, and get some information I actually care about at the same time?

how do you sustain a conversation after asking for directions? I have learned you need to sustain 15 minutes of conversation before you can number-close, is this true?

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