First of all, welcome to the forums.

Second, the PUA term for the alpha male is not grounded in science. It's just a marketing label to sell Alpha Male products. Strictly speaking from a scientific perspective, being alpha is being first. And no it's not a permanent state but a temporary one. You could have won a rodeo championship in a certain state for a given year hence you're alpha for that year and many women will be attracted to you. However, the next year, another champion takes your place.

But you have to see this in the proper light. The guy who never won a championship competition or never experienced being first in any area of his life will attract less women than the guy who experienced being alpha at least once in his life. Being alpha has its positive residues and these traits are: (a) confidence and (b) dominance.

What you want to learn about is to be more dominant; not exactly becoming a leader which is another misnomer for the term "alpha". Not all people can be leaders but that doesn't mean they can't be dominant. Moreover, not all leaders are alpha. We have beta leaders too in real life.

Dominance (not a domineering attitude) is a sexually attractive trait to feminine women. Meanwhile, submissiveness or non-dominance is also a sexually attractive trait to women, only this time it's the masculine women that non-dominant men attract.

Of course, we have more feminine women than masculine women. A masculine woman is someone like Anna Span, the porn director at the PUA Lounge. You'll see there that the guy who got Anna's attention was the most feminine man among the posters.

You'll either have to learn dominant qualities to attract feminine women who number more than masculine women or stay as you are and try to attract the few masculine women.

If you want better odds at attracting women, then you'll have to learn the pleasant dominant qualities that attract more women. You don't have to be a leader to attract more women or act "alpha" to get them. All you need to do is place your bet on the skills that you want to learn so your chances of getting what you want are higher.

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Ben, you're chasing feminine women and feminine women want masculine guys. Unfortunately, you have an effeminate frame. This isn't your fault. You may have grown up in a female dominated family.

Learn to distinguish between argumentum ad hominem versus masculine talk. Personal attacks are uncivilized. Examples of these include somebody calling you: a delusional liar, a fucktard or a dimwit with the intent to insult you as a person rather than teach you a point or debate a topic for everybody's enlightenment.

If you want to attract more women (the feminine types), you should be aware of gender differences when it comes to using and interpreting language. I'm giving you a link to an academic journal on what's the most effective teaching styles for girls versus boys, here: http://www.boysadrift.com/ed_horizons.pdf

With that study, you'll realize why some teachers are far more effective compared with others. A teacher with a masculine frame will naturally turn off guys with effeminate frames since feminine men grew up that way. Meanwhile, effeminate male teachers or trainers will naturally attract feminine men learners.

With this new awareness on gender differences and gender roles, hopefully, you'll adapt a more masculine frame so you can attract the feminine women that you want in your life.

Cowboy (Retired Rodeo) always meant well; most of the time anyway. It's just that he's the masculine type of coach/mentor around here. In my opinion, masculine mentors are what you exactly need to attract feminine women.

If you want to attract masculine women, I will highly recommend IWantEasyLove's AA thread at the General Section or Kasabi's emotionally charged threads.

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Whoa.... Dude... I never attacked you. I've tried to HELP you.

Let's review.... I've offered help here and in PM's... and what'd you do? You sent me a PM asking my 'credentials' to teach you? I didn't tell you to kiss my ass then and there. I politely told you I'm not here to charge, I'm not here to fluff my ego, and I'm not here for my jollies. I'm here to pay back as others helped me. You asked for help, then asked for my resume? Seriously?

Here's the deal... NOTHING I said was meant to be offensive. At all. I don't think you get it. Being a PUA doesn't mean you have to be Alpha - it means you've figured out what attracts a woman.

That said, MY game is a reflection of whom I am. I AM an alpha male. I embrace it. I'm told each time I meet a new woman that there is NEVER a moment where she wonders how I feel about her, or my intentions. It's who I am! If you don't want to be - that's on you.

I talk to my friends the same exact way as I'm talking to you. I expect them to do the same. I talk to others in PMs the same way as well. MOST don't get offended - they "get it". BUT - I refuse to change my style for you. If that's "offensive", we both move on - no big deal.

I'll help others, you'll continue to jerk your cock. I hope you have a ball!

So... that said... you go down whatever road you want.

I'll continue down the road that doesn't feel the need to apologize for everything I say, the road that leads me to always speak my mind, and the road that has me fucking a damned hot readhead in 5 hours.

I wish you well... But so as to ensure there are no hard feelings... I'm sorry I got your panties all in a wad. My sincere apologies.


RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Make sure you ride the redhead like a fucking Bull RR.

We are men and we make no apologies for it.

Quite the contrary in fact.

This is her third trip.

Once on the beach, once here last week and then again today.

Her greatest compliment to me thus far: We've discussed how 2 ex GF's wanted rings in 6 weeks... and after I fucked her the last time - she said "THAT was why they wanted rings!"

I smiled.

I'm looking to film it today...

RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Exactly. This is how all men in the world should behave.

It would make a better world all round. Well done!

I hope you took her compliment in your stride as a 'given'

HA!

She pointed at my cock later and said "This is mine, now... right?"

I said "It can be..."

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

Great job!

Thanks for your feedback. I will indeed post (probably in a new topic) the results of me implementing the info I found on this site.

Thanks for the advice esp. the link. I skimmed through it and it's very interesting I will read the rest of it later.

As for your analysis on what RR said, I simply disagree. The implicit message was that I am fundamentally ignorant and assumptive and the tone was not instructive or empathetic like most of the other posts; It was self-assuring having little to do with what I said. I don't care enough to discuss it further, but if that is the definition or a good example of masculinity then I will happily stay, assuming that I am, effeminate.

You implicitly called me ignorant while explicitly telling me, as if for fact, that my interpretation, understanding and opinions of an alpha male thus far are "horse shit" and that I am assumptive. You misquote me for using the words credentials when all I asked is for your story and success rates so I can put your advice in proper context. If you didn't put it together I didn't respond to the PM because as soon as you took me asking you your story as a sleight to your ego, I knew I didn't want to work with you. Your advice may have been free from monetary cost, but the time and effort I would put in listening and enacting it would be incur a cost on me and there is no reason for me to follow the advice of someone who is in the same boat as me, but thinks they are alpha supreme.

And yes I already had no intention of working with you; I'm glad you are up to speed.

Your words.

Those were YOUR words.

My lifestyle is petty, trickery, phony, a prison and immoral.... and I challenged you.


Yeah dude, you're pegged....

I'm done.



RR

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Women are like ceramic tile.... if you do the prep work, and lay them properly the first time...you can walk all over them for years to come.

You act very beta from what I can tell. Defensive, needs to be right, easily offended, lack of social etiquette etc. I didn't talk about you at all. You have an unhealthy attachment to labeling yourself alpha. If you didn't you would have seen, like I said before, I was talking about my interpretation of things I read. And no you didn't challenge me. You just said point blank I was wrong and attacked my character for it.

But yes, bye.

This is very interesting and helpful stuff. Thanks Hobbit.

For those who are interested, you can read the rest of that here: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n ... c=y&page=1

At the end of the day, pick up arts is all about showmanship. And depending on which species of primates, the Geladas which appear more similar to humans in terms of socialization skills, the alpha male gets laid more. Likewise, being alpha is still a temporary position.

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Here are my two essential rules on texting that will save you tons of time and money:

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