Well, be silent does not mean saying nothing. If you read his books, you know you can say a bit. Yes, I will try more and see what happened.

Anyway, his advice in a group, to look at women when other people are talking is just so great.

I'm doing the 60 stuff not only with picking up girls, but also in work, friends and school. I can see they are shy, diffident and fidgeting when I look at their eyes with poker face and silence.

Have you ever read Dao De Jing? It is really great. Its core idea is doing nothing (though it also says to do something).

Before I learn MM, I am pretty into Dao De Jing, but the MM just does not fit.

60's theory really fits Dao Dejing：Silence is the king of restlessness.

Ever heard the classic 'It's not what you say, it's how you say it'?

Same applies to silence. It's not about being silent, it's about how you're being silent. In other words, you want the kind of silence that creates sexual tension. Only a man with confidence can do that.

Do you think someone that asks for advice on 'how to improve social skills' has enough confidence to stare at a woman in silence in a calibrated fashion and create sexual tension?

He'll make her uncomfortable and nothing else.

This is why when you people advise him to 'be silent', you are:

- Not answering his question; he wants to IMPROVE his social skills, not reduce them.
- Making him walk up to women and creep them out.

^This WILL happen when someone is not calibrated enough.

Which is why 60yoc is not for newbies. It will traumatize them.

Newbies read 60yoc and think 'oh that's easy' - when in reality it's probably the most difficult way to actually seduce a woman because of the level of calibration and confidence required is too damn high for a newbie to handle.

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Yes, you are right. Fortunately, I am the guy who dare to look at a woman in a certain distance for a huge long time before I learned MM. After learning MM, I lost this powerful skill.

60 method is not a 100% successful pick up method like other PUA gurus theories. So I think we should take the risk of being creepy. Actually, by doing nothing, it is so fun that you see yourself make a girl shy and fidget.

To practice it, I think we can try to do this

1. in a one to one conversation, look at the people's eyes, whether it is man or woman

2. in a group, look at the women you like, no matter who are talking.

3. In a public place (coffee shop, walking, bars), stare women who are a bit far away than you.

the best product is yourself

go out and connect to people

put yourself on the line. Have little chit chat here and there and then you'll warm up. You'll find your convo skills improving naturally

There is a dangerous assumption in this pickup community, which is
we are totally bad and we are ugly enough that if we do not do the "right" thing, say the "right" words according to pickup theories, we cannot get women.

No!!!

We are not that bad.

Some women are already into us just like we love some women.

There is really not much to say or do.

Yes. 60 summarize it and called it "social god mode".

There is another dangerous and harmful assumption here and in the community.

It is that we are the only one should be responsible for the conversation. It is that we are the only one should be responsible for the pickup.

No, it is totally wrong.

I had this mindset before and I became a person who worried too much, who analyzed too much, who attributed all failure to myself. My ego, self-esteem, and myself suffered. In this situation, how can I be confident????

Litlle panda is totally right... I will advise you to check #1 my post/poeticsluak on the perfect opener:
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It applies to convos to.. Second the book "how to win friends and influence people" will help tons...

Finally, howard stern best of on youtube... so just type howard stern best of..

Talk to people everywhere you go, the problem with dudes when they talk to women they over think, when you talk to women talk to whatever the fuck you want to talk about, and draw her to you and your convo... No the other way around you need to lead, most dudes react too much to women and are to calculated...Check out on my signature in my dancefloor post the last page "sinn natural game" it may help tons..

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@ O.P.

Talking to people is the best way to gain experience, also you may make some friends along the way.

"How to win friends and influence people" By Dale Carrange, has a lot of good advice on area's you can improve on to be more sociable and enjoyable to be around.

@ Easel, I understand the joy the of learning new stuff, and seeing results from it and wanting to share and spread this knowledge. I have done this both in seduction, dance, diet and exercise, and it always comes across, no matter how well my intentions were, as annoying and pompis.

With that being said, I feel you have overlooked the OP's original question, which was how can he be more socially in life itself, not just seduction. Your reply was silence, a reply which some of our fellow members feel is misleading, and in my opinion it is.

Silence has it place, so does talking, and the one I feel has been overlooked (Which goes right along with being silent), is the communication skill of actaully listening to the person, understanding what he/she is saying, and understanding the emotional context behind it (This is a very important skill that several books I have read, some pua some not, have stated it often overlooked, and my experience is proving that statement true).

The last thing I want to point out is a lot of your post goes along something like "Well according to 60yoc, whatever random fact." This is not good, in fact I would say you are guru worshiping 60Yoc. The reason I bring this up, is a lifestyle couch by the name of D.J. Fuji, stated that once a student begins to worshiping any guru in the community, that student needs to disregard and put space between himself and that guru's teachings, other wise those teachings are going to have a very unhealthy and venomous affect on the student. I hope you understand my concern.

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Thanks. What you said is true. I am in this bad behavior again just like when I learn the Mystery Method. I will meet more women, try and see what will happens.

Learning to genuinely listen to others, rather than blankly stare at them and nod, is number one ingredient for conversation skills. In fact, I enjoy listening more than I do talking most of the time. Most people will try to say something, or prove a point, as quickly as possible and think of listening as non-important

edit: this has already been said but guess that is my input

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I'm in the panda/skills camp here. The stuff easel is talking about certainly has its place, although I'm not sure the stuff he has necessarily discussed is always that much use for the op in this situation. Eye contact and silence is all well and good at times, but you still need to be able to hold some sort of a conversation at some point - if you can't do that, then all the smouldering looks/body language/eye contact and anything else is all going to fall down when you stand there and can't hold any sort of a conversation to keep her interest.

I think the key points have been covered in the posts/links given above, but I would just stress what I think is most important - taking an INTEREST. Ideally you will begin to take a genuine interest in as much as you can, try to broaden your horizons and want to know as much about things and about people as you possibly can. But even if you don't really care, pretend you do. If you take an interest/pretend to take an interest, you'll find that the right questions come along quite naturally, they expand on something and then you comment with something relevant back (wow, that's really cool. i once did something a bit like that ....... but what you did sounds such a good experience. Where did you do it? etc.)

Really take an interest and you'll be on your way to better interactions.